Video games are better than tv shows and movies
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 30, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
Video games are better than tv shows and movies
I second this. I only watch maybe 30 minutes of TV a month, maybe less.
- I actually like wintertime.
- Taco Bell is legitimately good (and cheap!)
- Pineapple belongs on pizza.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 30, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
Video games are better than tv shows and movies
Video games are a waste of money and time.
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 30, 2021, 11:01:11 PM
- I actually like wintertime.
Of course
you do, East Texan.
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 30, 2021, 11:01:11 PM
- Taco Bell is legitimately good (and cheap!)
Taco Bell isn't cheap anymore. Local joints will always beat them out on price, and especially on quality.
Quote from: Bruce on March 30, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 30, 2021, 11:01:11 PM
- Taco Bell is legitimately good (and cheap!)
Taco Bell isn't cheap anymore. Local joints will always beat them out on price, and especially on quality.
Taco Bell is heathen Mexican Food that pales in comparison to the real thing.
The chili cheese burritos are still fantastic, but I get the impression the TB franchises that still carry them are trying a stealth-phaseout by making them too expensive to be worth the price in order to get people to stop buying them.
Last video game I played was about 20 years ago.
Quote from: kkt on March 31, 2021, 01:00:05 AM
Last video game I played was about 20 years ago.
Video games went downhill after 1994. That's my very unpopular opinion!
Quote from: stridentweasel on March 31, 2021, 06:14:27 AM
Quote from: kkt on March 31, 2021, 01:00:05 AM
Last video game I played was about 20 years ago.
Video games went downhill after 1994. That's my very unpopular opinion!
Nothing is going to beat Doom and Super Metroid in my opinion so I concur.
The last "new" game I bought was in 2009. I bought a couple older Nintendo games since that time but really I lost interest in playing them like I did in school. The really old games are nice to pick up if I'm sick or have friends/family over.
Sandwiches are boring and overrated.
Quote from: Takumi on March 31, 2021, 08:26:05 AM
Sandwiches are boring and overrated.
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Quote from: Takumi on March 31, 2021, 08:26:05 AM
Sandwiches are boring and overrated.
Sandwich, IL is pretty boring, though I'm not sure it's highly rated by many. :-P
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2021, 11:29:07 PM
Taco Bell is heathen Mexican Food that pales in comparison to the real thing.
Taco Bell is in no way authentic Mexican food. Of course not. But that isn't why I go there.
Our best friends have been living in southern Coahuila as missionaries, and they just returned a couple of weeks ago in anticipation of the birth of their third child. Over at church small group Sunday evening, we were all deciding on dinners for the next several weeks, and one suggestion was to have tacos. Her eyes lit up with excitement, and she exclaimed,
American-style tacos? I love that idea! We haven't had American-style tacos in ages! With all the toppings too, like lettuce and cheese and...Just because it isn't authentic Mexican food, that doesn't mean it's no good. Similar to Chicago-style deep dish pizza, which bears little resemblance to any pizza found in Italy, but which I love nonetheless.
Quote from: Bruce on March 30, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Taco Bell isn't cheap anymore.
Depends what you get.
One of my favorite items to order is a bean burrito with seasoned rice added, which comes to only $1.59 plus tax.
Sometimes after church, our family stops by the drive-through to pick up a soft taco party pack, which is a dozen tacos for $13.99, and it can feed our family of five.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2021, 11:29:07 PM
Taco Bell is heathen Mexican Food that pales in comparison to the real thing.
Taco Bell is in no way authentic Mexican food. Of course not. But that isn't why I go there.
Our best friends have been living in southern Coahuila as missionaries, and they just returned a couple of weeks ago in anticipation of the birth of their third child. Over at church small group Sunday evening, we were all deciding on dinners for the next several weeks, and one suggestion was to have tacos. Her eyes lit up with excitement, and she exclaimed, American-style tacos? I love that idea! We haven't had American-style tacos in ages! With all the toppings too, like lettuce and cheese and...
Just because it isn't authentic Mexican food, that doesn't mean it's no good. Similar to Chicago-style deep dish pizza, which bears little resemblance to any pizza found in Italy, but which I love nonetheless.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Taco Bell isn't edible but it ain't real Mexican food either. I eat Taco Bell every now and then, I definitely don't have any complaints about the menu myself. However, given I'm also part of an extended family which by way of marriage that is largely Hispanic I do have regular access to authentic Mexican dishes. My preference would be to have the authentic stuff (which is also accessible at a Taco Trucks and restaurants around me) over something like Taco Bell or a similar fast food chain. That said, I do tend to roll my eyes at my own family members in the Midwest which seem to have Taco Bell as some sort of weird fixation.
Conversely I'll eat things like Little Caesar's but I still would prefer something more grandiose out of my pizza if I had the choice.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
My preference would be to have the authentic stuff (which is also accessible at a Taco Trucks and restaurants around me) over something like Taco Bell or a similar fast food chain. That said, I do tend to roll my eyes at my own family members in the Midwest which seem to have Taco Bell as some sort of weird fixation.
I guess my point is that it doesn't "pale in comparison to the real thing" because, in my mind at least, they're two different types of food. One is Mexican food and the other is American-Mexican food. No point in trying to compare them, any more than comparing Panda Express to food in China.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 30, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Taco Bell isn't cheap anymore.
Depends what you get.
One of my favorite items to order is a bean burrito with seasoned rice added, which comes to only $1.59 plus tax.
Sometimes after church, our family stops by the drive-through to pick up a soft taco party pack, which is a dozen tacos for $13.99, and it can feed our family of five.
Yeah I got lunch there the other day for just $3.25 (3 burritos and 25 cents of tax). It's not authentic Mexican food, as others have said, but it's cheap and tasty.
Here we go:
-Brushing your teeth in the morning is unnecessary and overrated. I've pretty much never done it since I was a kid and my dentist has never found a problem with my teeth.
-Driving should be a right and not a privilege, it's simply too necessary for everyday life in much of the country. Doesn't mean we shouldn't take dangerous drivers off of the road though, liberty is a right but you can still go to jail.
-Not sure how many people agree, but 68° is an ideal room temperature.
-80% of what kids are learning in school today has become obsolete because of Google and technology and now their time is just being wasted.
-No person should be richer than 1 billion dollars.
-I don't really care about the lyrics of a song if the sound and beat is good.
-A college degree should not be a requirement for a high-paying job.
-Seriously injuring or killing a dog should be punishable by 5-10 years in prison.
-Black coffee is disgusting.
-Curfews should be banned. Being outside is not a crime.
-Truck drivers should go through a more advanced psychological exam in order to start trucking. Road raging in a huge rig is 10x as dangerous as in a car and I have personally been put in danger before by it.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Driving should be a right and not a privilege, it's simply too necessary for everyday life in much of the country. Doesn't mean we shouldn't take dangerous drivers off of the road though, liberty is a right but you can still go to jail.
What does that mean, exactly? Does it mean you shouldn't need to have a license to drive? Or that you shouldn't have to pass an exam to get a license? In other words, what would be different in your scenario compared to now?
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Seriously injuring or killing a dog should be punishable by 5-10 years in prison.
My own unpopular opinion: Pets are overrated. They're just animals, like bigger versions of moles and rats–except that we allow them into our homes, take them to doctors, and get mad if anyone mistreats them. I'll never understand people's pets holding them back from doing something they want. Can't move into a certain house because it's not right for your pet? Easy, get rid of your pet, problem solved.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Black coffee is disgusting.
Curfews should be banned. Being outside is not a crime.
I agree with both of these.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Driving should be a right and not a privilege, it's simply too necessary for everyday life in much of the country. Doesn't mean we shouldn't take dangerous drivers off of the road though, liberty is a right but you can still go to jail.
What does that mean, exactly? Does it mean you shouldn't need to have a license to drive? Or that you shouldn't have to pass an exam to get a license? In other words, what would be different in your scenario compared to now?
You should still need a license to drive and pass a road test, that's simply proving to your state that you are able to do it in the first place. I just think states shouldn't be able to take away driving from someone over things like not paying child support or taxes, or getting a few too many tickets in a certain time period. I guess the difference in my scenario would be that the government would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not fit to drive and should not be on the road, just like they have to do in criminal cases. At the very least, special consideration must be given to the impact on one's life before suspending or revoking a license. The threshold must be higher.
Quote from: kphoger
My own unpopular opinion: Pets are overrated. They're just animals, like bigger versions of moles and rats–except that we allow them into our homes, take them to doctors, and get mad if anyone mistreats them. I'll never understand people's pets holding them back from doing something they want. Can't move into a certain house because it's not right for your pet? Easy, get rid of your pet, problem solved.
Well, some people (myself included) see pets as family members. Having a pet, especially a dog, can be very beneficial to one's mental health and reduce feelings of loneliness. There's something special about just having this little companion that's always excited to see you or up to play or run around. They're not really as tangible as "get rid of them" , unless they're really old and aren't going to be around much longer anyway. You'd get mad if someone hit a sibling of yours, right? It's sort of the same feeling with a pet.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
You should still need a license to drive and pass a road test, that's simply proving to your state that you are able to do it in the first place. I just think states shouldn't be able to take away driving from someone over things like not paying child support or taxes, or getting a few too many tickets in a certain time period. I guess the difference in my scenario would be that the government would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not fit to drive and should not be on the road, just like they have to do in criminal cases. At the very least, special consideration must be given to the impact on one's life before suspending or revoking a license. The threshold must be higher.
I agree that a DL shouldn't be taken away from things that are not driving-related. However, "tickets in a certain time period" could be a reasonable proxy for determining who is a safe driver and who is not, and a person should be able to appeal a DL suspension/revocation.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
Well, some people (myself included) see pets as family members. Having a pet, especially a dog, can be very beneficial to one's mental health and reduce feelings of loneliness. There's something special about just having this little companion that's always excited to see you or up to play or run around. They're not really as tangible as "get rid of them" , unless they're really old and aren't going to be around much longer anyway. You'd get mad if someone hit a sibling of yours, right? It's sort of the same feeling with a pet.
Yep, I understand that many people are like that. I'm just not one of them.
(By the way, "unless they're really old and aren't going to be around much longer anyway" might betray just a touch of hypocrisy. Would you have a problem if I said I had gotten rid of my sister just because she was really old and not going to be around much longer anyway? I assume that would bother you, which means pets aren't quite the same as family members, even to you.)
The written word is preferable to audio or video of the same content. I would much rather read a transcript of an interview, or a summary, than have to sit through a 30-minute YouTube video.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 31, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
The written word is preferable to audio or video of the same content. I would much rather read a transcript of an interview, or a summary, than have to sit through a 30-minute YouTube video.
FiveThirtyEight does some podcasts, and every article they do allows comments. Podcasts receive few comments, but the most common comment that isn't about the article subject itself or "make money from home" is about wanting a transcript so they don't have to spend 30 minutes listening to it. When they finally did do one with a transcript (this one (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-heck-is-going-on-with-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine/)), two people praised it (one comment plus a reply). Unfortunately, it's not a new normal.
Your opinion is not unpopular.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Here we go:
-Brushing your teeth in the morning is unnecessary and overrated. I've pretty much never done it since I was a kid and my dentist has never found a problem with my teeth.
....
Whereas since I've been working from home, I now normally brush my teeth three times a day (morning, after lunch, and at night) and when I went to the dentist for a cleaning last month, he seemed to do considerably less picking and scraping with that sharp metal thing. Reducing that is a very good thing from my point of view! (I normally floss only at night, though, unless I get something caught between my teeth and it starts getting on my nerves.)
Quote from: hbelkins on March 31, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
The written word is preferable to audio or video of the same content. I would much rather read a transcript of an interview, or a summary, than have to sit through a 30-minute YouTube video.
100% this. If I'm scrolling through cnn.com or something like that, if it's a video, I won't even bother. In general, I'm quickly glancing at these maybe while I have a free second at work or I'm waiting in line at the grocery store. I don't want anything with volume then. I want to read.
Chris
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
My preference would be to have the authentic stuff (which is also accessible at a Taco Trucks and restaurants around me) over something like Taco Bell or a similar fast food chain. That said, I do tend to roll my eyes at my own family members in the Midwest which seem to have Taco Bell as some sort of weird fixation.
I guess my point is that it doesn't "pale in comparison to the real thing" because, in my mind at least, they're two different types of food. One is Mexican food and the other is American-Mexican food. No point in trying to compare them, any more than comparing Panda Express to food in China.
That's the thing, if those around me were classifying them as different than I could see the merit to what they say. The trouble is they lump everything into an umbrella "Mexican Food" when it is more of a American style Taco Bell-like experience. Granted I noticed they do the same thing with places like Panda Express compared to true Chinese food.
Putting down roots in a place is an antiquated and burdensome concept. Moving from place to place to pursue opportunities consistently has been one of the most enjoyable things I've done in my adult life.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Here we go:
-Brushing your teeth in the morning is unnecessary and overrated. I've pretty much never done it since I was a kid and my dentist has never found a problem with my teeth.
....
Whereas since I've been working from home, I now normally brush my teeth three times a day (morning, after lunch, and at night) and when I went to the dentist for a cleaning last month, he seemed to do considerably less picking and scraping with that sharp metal thing. Reducing that is a very good thing from my point of view! (I normally floss only at night, though, unless I get something caught between my teeth and it starts getting on my nerves.)
Whereas I haven't been to a dentist in more than 15 years.
There's another unpopular opinion for you: Oral hygiene in general is overrated.
Patents should not exist. If something is legitimately the best idea, it should be available to everyone.
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Patents should not exist. If something is legitimately the best idea, it should be available to everyone.
So you'd be cool if you spent millions of dollars in research and development for a product and someone could just take what you made, break it down to learn how to do it, and then make it for themselves, undercutting you?
Chris
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Patents should not exist.
Thought that said 'Parents' at first reading...
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Patents should not exist. If something is legitimately the best idea, it should be available to everyone.
So you'd be cool if you spent millions of dollars in research and development for a product and someone could just take what you made, break it down to learn how to do it, and then make it for themselves, undercutting you?
Chris
Preventing that problem is exactly why that clause is in the Constitution: "The Congress shall have Power ... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries ...." U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 8.
What would happen if Microsoft was not allowed to have computer mice, particularly in the days before laptops? (This never became a problem in the real world because the patents belonged to companies producing computer parts, not companies that sold full computers.)
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2021, 05:04:25 PM
What would happen if Microsoft was not allowed to have computer mice, particularly in the days before laptops? (This never became a problem in the real world because the patents belonged to companies producing computer parts, not companies that sold full computers.)
Hm? The computer mouse was demonstrated at the Mother of All Demos, in 1968. Pretty sure the patent was expired before Microsoft got around to making them.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
-A college degree should not be a requirement for a high-paying job.
Being a college dropout didn't stop Bill Gates, or other tech moguls. Beyond such edge cases, creating your own business, and being good at it, generally is a good way to overcome the lack of a degree.
While I wouldn't overgeneralize your point, I agree there's too much reliance on expensive credentials for jobs that can be done with a decent high school education.
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-No person should be richer than 1 billion dollars.
Uh, like college dropout Bill Gates?
A former roommate of mine got a night job at UPS. He asked his boss what the key was to success at UPS. The answer was "show up". And that's the key to success in many fields.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Patents should not exist.
Thought that said 'Parents' at first reading...
I thought it said patients.
Sorry for the excessively long post, but new replies kept being posted as I was typing. :spin:
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:08:52 PM
I agree that a DL shouldn't be taken away from things that are not driving-related. However, "tickets in a certain time period" could be a reasonable proxy for determining who is a safe driver and who is not, and a person should be able to appeal a DL suspension/revocation.
Here in NY, you lose your license after any three speeding tickets, or two if they are in a work zone. To me that's not enough. It should be more like 5 speeding tickets of 1-10 MPH over, 4 speeding tickets of 11-20 over, or 2 speeding tickets of 21-30 over. The current policy I do agree with, however, is immediate license suspension upon conviction of speeding 40+ MPH over, which is an 11-point offense and instantly puts you at the 11 point threshold for having your license taken away.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:08:52 PM
Yep, I understand that many people are like that. I'm just not one of them.
(By the way, "unless they're really old and aren't going to be around much longer anyway" might betray just a touch of hypocrisy. Would you have a problem if I said I had gotten rid of my sister just because she was really old and not going to be around much longer anyway? I assume that would bother you, which means pets aren't quite the same as family members, even to you.)
The value we put on human life is much greater than the value we put on animal life. One would get offended if you said "I'm getting rid of my sister because she's old anyway", but that's because humans have consciousness and intelligence. Pets don't
understand when you're *getting rid* of them, hence why it's ethical to put them down to put them out of their suffering or old age. And "family member" doesn't mean you care about your dog more than your sibling, it just means you have a deeper emotional connection to him/her.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Whereas since I've been working from home, I now normally brush my teeth three times a day (morning, after lunch, and at night) and when I went to the dentist for a cleaning last month, he seemed to do considerably less picking and scraping with that sharp metal thing. Reducing that is a very good thing from my point of view! (I normally floss only at night, though, unless I get something caught between my teeth and it starts getting on my nerves.)
Kudos to you. I could never. Once a day before I go to bed is enough brushing for me.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Whereas I haven't been to a dentist in more than 15 years.
There's another unpopular opinion for you: Oral hygiene in general is overrated.
Is there a specific reason why? You'd at least want to get checked for gum disease or cavities.
Try telling that second line to a woman you want to date and see how that works out for you. :biggrin:
Quote from: stridentweasel on March 31, 2021, 05:03:18 PM
It's not. Be a trucker! I have several college degrees, but getting the job I had as an over-the-road trucker only required four weeks of training to pass the CDL exam, and it was more money than I ever made before, and probably more money than I'll ever make again.
I'd probably find it too difficult to stay fit and healthy if I'm sitting in a seat on the road all the time. I'd also need something a little more energizing as well. And road tests give me anxiety. I took my passenger car road test many years ago and I still get nervous every time I think about it.
Quote from: stridentweasel on March 31, 2021, 05:03:18 PM
Well, I guess, don't be a trucker if you can't pass that thing. Frankly, nervous breakdowns from fear of having an accident that could hurt someone is what ended what would have otherwise been a very fruitful career for me.
But more to the other point, the older I get, the more I realize that a ton of the good-paying jobs don't require a bachelor's, master's, or Ph.D. You can invest much less time in school and get training in HVAC, plumbing, electrical work, or something along those lines, and make way more money than anything I would do with my college degrees.
(Then why do I have so many degrees? I'm an over-privileged trust fund kid. There, I said it, and if you want to hate me for something, then hate me for that please.)
The real problem is the truckers who don't get nervous. The ones who road rage and get reckless, using the size of their vehicle to assert dominance. I
hate those truckers, and they need their licenses taken away.
I've heard a lot about those jobs, and I always wonder, if it's so high-paying and degree-less, then why doesn't everyone do it? Makes me a tiny bit suspicious.
Quote from: oscar on March 31, 2021, 05:39:39 PM
Being a college dropout didn't stop Bill Gates, or other tech moguls. Beyond such edge cases, creating your own business, and being good at it, generally is a good way to overcome the lack of a degree.
While I wouldn't overgeneralize your point, I agree there's too much reliance on expensive credentials for jobs that can be done with a decent high school education.
I kinda wouldn't put Bill Gates and "create your own business" in the same sentence. Small businesses suffer these days, choked by corporations. Only a select lucky few will be any bigger than a handful of locations. But yes, many people do find success in opening businesses, though the majority have too many reservations about entering the professional world without a college degree.
Quote from: oscar on March 31, 2021, 05:39:39 PM
Uh, like college dropout Bill Gates?
And Jeff Bezos.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 05:41:10 PM
A former roommate of mine got a night job at UPS. He asked his boss what the key was to success at UPS. The answer was "show up". And that's the key to success in many fields.
I could show up to my minimum wage McDonald's job, doesn't mean I'm going to see increased success. But yeah, being present can make you look like a better employee and more professional person overall.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 06:03:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Whereas since I've been working from home, I now normally brush my teeth three times a day (morning, after lunch, and at night) and when I went to the dentist for a cleaning last month, he seemed to do considerably less picking and scraping with that sharp metal thing. Reducing that is a very good thing from my point of view! (I normally floss only at night, though, unless I get something caught between my teeth and it starts getting on my nerves.)
Kudos to you. I could never. Once a day before I go to bed is enough brushing for me.
I should probably clarify that I've used an electric toothbrush since the 1990s, so brushing more often is a trivial matter to me.
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
That's why I don't more than 40 hours anymore unless it's an actual "real" emergency. People over value things like never calling out and always being available off the clock.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone—the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Quote from: corco on March 31, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Some things are no respecters of what time it is. Rocks don't fall, floods don't happen, mudslides don't occur, etc., strictly between 8 and 4:30. Some people have jobs that require them to respond to things at all hours. I was putting in 10- and 11-hour days during recent ice storms and flooding because that's the nature of my job.
As to some other things mentioned:
Brushing teeth: I'm in the habit of brushing my teeth every time I shower. And I generally take a shower in the morning before going to work (pre-pandemic; my showering has greatly decreased since I've been working from home) instead of the night before. I also brush them if I'm going somewhere without showering (such as a Saturday store run) because I'm not a fan of bad breath.
HVAC/auto repair work/carpentry/ect.: I wish I had the aptitude and physical ability to do those things. I could have made a decent career out of it and also saved myself a lot of money for repairs. While there may not be a huge market for majors in African-American lesbian womens gender studies, a plumber or auto mechanic will always be in demand.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 31, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
The written word is preferable to audio or video of the same content. I would much rather read a transcript of an interview, or a summary, than have to sit through a 30-minute YouTube video.
Thank god I'm not the only one.
Quote from: Zeffy on April 01, 2021, 02:02:49 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 31, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
The written word is preferable to audio or video of the same content. I would much rather read a transcript of an interview, or a summary, than have to sit through a 30-minute YouTube video.
Thank god I'm not the only one.
I would like to but my focus gets broken too much by external factors that it usually impractical aside from work.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 06:03:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Whereas I haven't been to a dentist in more than 15 years.
There's another unpopular opinion for you: Oral hygiene in general is overrated.
Is there a specific reason why? You'd at least want to get checked for gum disease or cavities.
I generally don't go to the doctor unless something's wrong. Checkups of any kind are just not really a "thing" for me. So no, I don't particularly "want to get checked for gum disease or cavities".
For what it's worth, the last time I went to the dentist, I had gum disease and receive a deep-cleaning for it. Maybe I have it again/still but, unless it's causing me pain, I don't really care. I can still chew, and that's what teeth are for, after all.
Cavities? Yeah, I probably have some of those. I had four molar fillings from back when I was a kid. One of them came out while I was chewing gum back in 2009 or so, so I just had a hole in my tooth for a decade. In 2019, part of the remaining tooth broke off while eating lunch. Eventually, I'll probably need to go in and have it extracted, possibly with a root canal, but I see little point in doing so before it starts causing me pain. Until then, I just pick bits of food out of my tooth with a toothpick. (That gets kind of interesting when it's a piece of black pepper that got stuck, then I pick it out and chew it. Surprise!)
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 06:03:54 PM
Try telling that second line to a woman you want to date and see how that works out for you. :biggrin:
You mean my wife? who also hasn't been to the dentist in at least as long as me? Yeah, no problem on that front, sir.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 01, 2021, 01:59:47 PM
While there may not be a huge market for majors in African-American lesbian womens gender studies, a plumber or auto mechanic will always be in demand.
I've been thinking about steering our sons toward skilled labor, rather than telling them they can make a living designing games or encouraging them to incur tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt.
Quote from: corco on March 31, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Hard work and dependability is usually
part of what helps you get ahead, but it's certainly not the full picture. I believe in working smarter, not harder, and I must agree that longer hours (and especially
talking about your long hours) doesn't do anybody any good.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 06:03:54 PM
Here in NY, you lose your license after any three speeding tickets, or two if they are in a work zone. To me that's not enough. It should be more like 5 speeding tickets of 1-10 MPH over, 4 speeding tickets of 11-20 over, or 2 speeding tickets of 21-30 over. The current policy I do agree with, however, is immediate license suspension upon conviction of speeding 40+ MPH over, which is an 11-point offense and instantly puts you at the 11 point threshold for having your license taken away.
Three speeding tickets is a lot! Most places cops aren't eager to write tickets for less than 10 over on a wide open highway anyway. Someone who gets that many tickets needs to work on better habits, or else learn to live with public transit, and I am okay with their license being suspended to provide some motivation.
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: corco on March 31, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Hard work and dependability is usually part of what helps you get ahead
Not really. It's all either 1) being lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time to make the most of an opportunity 2) knowing someone in power that wants you to get ahead 3) already having enough money that you can just have your money make money for you.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 01, 2021, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: corco on March 31, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Hard work and dependability is usually part of what helps you get ahead
Not really. It's all either 1) being lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time to make the most of an opportunity 2) knowing someone in power that wants you to get ahead 3) already having enough money that you can just have your money make money for you.
Hard work just gave me an ulcer and blinded me as how to be truly effective in my job/career. What made me successful wasn't that I was better than my counterparts, it was because I survived and saw opportunities when they didn't.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 01, 2021, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Hard work and dependability is usually part of what helps you get ahead
Not really. It's all either 1) being lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time to make the most of an opportunity 2) knowing someone in power that wants you to get ahead 3) already having enough money that you can just have your money make money for you.
For 1) and 2), you still need hard work and dependability. Consider just as one example, recent NFL prospect Isaiah Wilson. He was drafted in the first round last year, clearly in the right place at the right time to be successful, but with what appears to be zero hard work and zero dependability, his career is going nowhere after being traded by his first team and waived by the second three days later.
And for 3), "getting ahead" doesn't mean much if you're starting from a high baseline.
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: corco on March 31, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 31, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: hard work and dependability doesn't get you ahead in life, it just gets you exploited by someone who will take credit for your hard work and dependability. Which is why the value of hard work is drilled into everyone–the powerful need suckers to believe that so they have someone to take advantage of.
source: personal experience
Fully agreed on that - I run when I hear managers/co-workers brag about how many hours they work. It either means you're 1) too incompetent/bad at managing time to get your work done during business hours (this seems like it happens a lot) or 2) you have a terrible job. Either way it's not something to be proud of and I don't respect you or think more highly of you as a worker for it. It just makes me question your competence or judgement.
Hard work and dependability is usually part of what helps you get ahead, but it's certainly not the full picture. I believe in working smarter, not harder, and I must agree that longer hours (and especially talking about your long hours) doesn't do anybody any good.
When I was working, and saw others working their asses off while I wasn't, I would remind them of Dilbert's "work smarter, not harder" formulation. Or what Gen. Patton said (more or less, in real life and not just the movie, perhaps with some expletives deleted), "you don't win a war by dying for your country, you win it by making enemy soldiers die for
their country".
Output, not input, is what matters.
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 02:09:55 PM
I generally don't go to the doctor unless something's wrong. Checkups of any kind are just not really a "thing" for me. So no, I don't particularly "want to get checked for gum disease or cavities".
For what it's worth, the last time I went to the dentist, I had gum disease and receive a deep-cleaning for it. Maybe I have it again/still but, unless it's causing me pain, I don't really care. I can still chew, and that's what teeth are for, after all.
Cavities? Yeah, I probably have some of those. I had four molar fillings from back when I was a kid. One of them came out while I was chewing gum back in 2009 or so, so I just had a hole in my tooth for a decade. In 2019, part of the remaining tooth broke off while eating lunch. Eventually, I'll probably need to go in and have it extracted, possibly with a root canal, but I see little point in doing so before it starts causing me pain. Until then, I just pick bits of food out of my tooth with a toothpick. (That gets kind of interesting when it's a piece of black pepper that got stuck, then I pick it out and chew it. Surprise!)
Man I'm hyper anxious of the dentist and know my mouth is pretty gross (cavities, probably gum disease). I brush once a day though so it's not like I'm just letting it rot.
Bowtie pasta sucks.
Nimbya started the war.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 31, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Black coffee is disgusting.
I already agreed with you about this. But allow me to add my own unpopular opinion: this means you and I don't actually like coffee. We just like coffee-flavored cream and sugar. And we just need to make our peace with that.
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 03:48:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 01, 2021, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 01, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Hard work and dependability is usually part of what helps you get ahead
Not really. It's all either 1) being lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time to make the most of an opportunity 2) knowing someone in power that wants you to get ahead 3) already having enough money that you can just have your money make money for you.
For 1) and 2), you still need hard work and dependability.
Nah–everyone with first-hand experience in a hierarchical structure like a business or government has seen someone fail upward. Hard work and dependability can sometimes even work against you, because if you work hard and are dependable, you're difficult to replace while keeping the same quality of work output. So they keep you in the spot you're good at, and promote someone who sucks at their job to "get them out of the way", because it's much easier to replace a crappy employee with someone better. That is, they do less damage as a supervisor than they do working frontline where their work output makes it directly to the customer.
And of course hard work and dependability don't matter at all if they never get noticed. Like if you have a supervisor that never pays attention to whether anyone is doing good work or not. Or if you work hard and put out a quality product at a small business, your large competitors have enough of an edge over you (because they have more money for advertising than you do) that nobody will ever end up buying your product in the first place, so they have no idea how hard you're working.
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 05:05:11 PM
Nimbya started the war.
THERE IS NO WAR WITH NIMBYA
god
Hard work and dependability sure help when it's time for your prospective employer to call your former employer for references.
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 06:07:54 PM
Hard work and dependability sure help when it's time for your prospective employer to call your former employer for references.
Most big businesses won't even allow references anymore. All you tend to get is just confirmation of employment.
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 05:59:11 PM
I already agreed with you about this. But allow me to add my own unpopular opinion: this means you and I don't actually like coffee. We just like coffee-flavored cream and sugar. And we just need to make our peace with that.
*takes deep sigh* I guess you're right...
Quote from: Zeffy on April 01, 2021, 04:10:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 02:09:55 PM
I generally don't go to the doctor unless something's wrong. Checkups of any kind are just not really a "thing" for me. So no, I don't particularly "want to get checked for gum disease or cavities".
For what it's worth, the last time I went to the dentist, I had gum disease and receive a deep-cleaning for it. Maybe I have it again/still but, unless it's causing me pain, I don't really care. I can still chew, and that's what teeth are for, after all.
Cavities? Yeah, I probably have some of those. I had four molar fillings from back when I was a kid. One of them came out while I was chewing gum back in 2009 or so, so I just had a hole in my tooth for a decade. In 2019, part of the remaining tooth broke off while eating lunch. Eventually, I'll probably need to go in and have it extracted, possibly with a root canal, but I see little point in doing so before it starts causing me pain. Until then, I just pick bits of food out of my tooth with a toothpick. (That gets kind of interesting when it's a piece of black pepper that got stuck, then I pick it out and chew it. Surprise!)
Man I'm hyper anxious of the dentist and know my mouth is pretty gross (cavities, probably gum disease). I brush once a day though so it's not like I'm just letting it rot.
Hopefully I don't jinx myself by saying this, but I've never had any dental issues other than having my wisdom teeth pulled when I was 21. Never had a cavity. So you can understand why I'm not inclined to stop going to the dentist for routine cleanings every six months.
I will emphatically suggest that if you change to an electric toothbrush (I use a Braun Oral-B), it'll feel like you've never brushed your teeth before because it does so much better than an old-fashioned manual brush.
Records sound better than CD's.
The correct amount of garlic for the dish you're cooking is three times whatever the recipe says. And if you're cooking from a recipe that I gave you, then correct amount is still three times whatever the recipe says. Because there's no such thing as too much garlic.
(When my parents were first married and learning how to cook, they thought "clove" meant "bulb". So, if a recipe called for a clove of garlic, they put a whole bulb in. Eventually, they figured out their error, but their taste for garlic remained. I am their child, so that might explain things.)
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2021, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 06:07:54 PM
Hard work and dependability sure help when it's time for your prospective employer to call your former employer for references.
Most big businesses won't even allow references anymore. All you tend to get is just confirmation of employment.
Right, it's too much of a potential liability because if you say something negative that can't be proven black and white, you can easily trip over libel/slander laws. And if they're not going to be your employee anymore, what motivation do you have to say something nice about them? If it gets them the job, they leave and
you're the one who has to hire someone.
At the companies I've worked for, these sorts of reference requests are routed to HR rather than anyone in a supervisory capacity anyway, so the person on the phone probably doesn't have any sort of first-hand experience with the employee anyway. Really all they
can do is say "they worked here from X date to X date."
Modern hiring practices tend to rely a lot on automated processes that screen applicants anyway, and possibly-biased or nuanced judgements of an employee can't easily be incorporated into that type of workflow.
Quote from: bandit957 on April 01, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
Records sound better than CD's.
I don't think that's too unpopular. The brickwalling of CD mastering starting the loudness wars ensured that records would sound better.
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 10:25:34 PM
The correct amount of garlic for the dish you're cooking is none.
FIFY.
(Expressing my opinion for disliking garlic got me called all sorts of names by a now-inactive forum member a few years ago.)
Arizona switches from Mountain time to Pacific time when DST starts.
Quote from: SectorZ on April 02, 2021, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on April 01, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
Records sound better than CD's.
I don't think that's too unpopular. The brickwalling of CD mastering starting the loudness wars ensured that records would sound better.
Hot take: Audiophiles are just kidding themselves, or belong to a weird cult.
Yes, there's a very noticeable difference between $5 headphones/speakers and $50 ones, but none that I can tell at $500. But that could just be my ears; I seriously can't tell the difference between a CD and an MP3, cassette and record, et al.
Quote from: formulanone on April 05, 2021, 08:19:14 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 02, 2021, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on April 01, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
Records sound better than CD's.
I don't think that's too unpopular. The brickwalling of CD mastering starting the loudness wars ensured that records would sound better.
Hot take: Audiophiles are just kidding themselves, or belong to a weird cult.
Yes, there's a very noticeable difference between $5 headphones/speakers and $50 ones, but none that I can tell at $500. But that could just be my ears; I seriously can't tell the difference between a CD and an MP3, cassette and record, et al.
Oof. Different resolutions of MP3s can be anywhere on the spectrum from crap to pristine in my ears.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 05, 2021, 08:03:29 AM
Arizona switches from Mountain time to Pacific time when DST starts.
No they don't. They may be observing the same time as all the locations in the Pacific time zone, but that doesn't change the fact that Arizona is on MST and those areas are on PDT.
I don't believe most audiophiles could tell the difference between the $50 and $500 headphones they're listening to, in a double-blind experiment.
Unpopular opinion: Hip hop is the ABSOLUTE worst genre of "music" ever invented by man
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 05, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Unpopular opinion: Hip hop is the ABSOLUTE worst genre of "music" ever invented by man
I actually agree. Some rap is good, but a lot of it is just the same crappy computer generated sounds over and over (not to mention the lyrics). Ditto for pop.
My unpopular music opinion: Christian rock is awesome.
Quote from: kkt on April 05, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
I don't believe most audiophiles could tell the difference between the $50 and $500 headphones they're listening to, in a double-blind experiment.
I feel like they'd be able to physically notice the difference in the hardware, though.
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 05, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Unpopular opinion: Hip hop is the ABSOLUTE worst genre of "music" ever invented by man
While I'm not a fan of it I've also noticed that most people who do also don't like all the late 70s, 80s and early 90s stuff I listen to. I would probably attribute to not being all that different to me hating my parents taste in music and then likewise with me.
I know noticed that a lot of hip hop and rap songs tend to have similar baselines. It is really hard not to notice it sometimes when my wife is listening to modern music.
Gonna add this:
On cars, separate amber turn signals are way better than integrated red turn signals that use the same lights as the brake. The amber signals should be mandated here in the US, as they are in Europe. They stand out much more than a red light and drivers should be able to know that amber always means turning/hazard, and that red always means slowing/stopping. It's already used as a universal "caution color" . Also, this is a little bit more of a personal belief, but amber is just more aesthetically appealing anyways.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2021, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 30, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 30, 2021, 11:01:11 PM
- Taco Bell is legitimately good (and cheap!)
Taco Bell isn't cheap anymore. Local joints will always beat them out on price, and especially on quality.
Taco Bell is heathen Mexican Food that pales in comparison to the real thing.
agreed. taco bell markets to the stoner market. if you turn the closed-captioning on during their commercials, it clearly says 'bong' at the end.
having said that. i do frequent taco bell.
Quote from: bandit957 on April 01, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
Records sound better than CD's.
my hearing is shot (or begging to be shot) so i can't tell the difference. i have hundreds of songs on my phone, but only use one earbud because the right ear sounds like a blown speaker anyway.
they probably do, but i like the convenience of not having to carry 20 lbs of audio equipment with me when i want to listen to music.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 05, 2021, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 05, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Unpopular opinion: Hip hop is the ABSOLUTE worst genre of "music" ever invented by man
While I'm not a fan of it I've also noticed that most people who do also don't like all the late 70s, 80s and early 90s stuff I listen to. I would probably attribute to not being all that different to me hating my parents taste in music and then likewise with me.
I know noticed that a lot of hip hop and rap songs tend to have similar baselines. It is really hard not to notice it sometimes when my wife is listening to modern music.
i died a little bit when i heard the bassline from fleetwood mac's 'the chain' shoved into a rap song.
Pls y'all are so tasteless.. Hip Hop is a great genre. It's better than country, grunge, and k-pop.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:20:28 AM
Pls y'all are so tasteless.. Hip Hop is a great genre. It's better than country, grunge, and k-pop.
I never was a fan of any of those either, country has a decent song now and then though. I never understood how the whole grunge genre got so popular when I was a kid. I guess that I didn't have issues with depression, it kind of felt like it was prerequisite to enjoy anything Grunge.
While I'm here:
- Hip-hop isn't generic, you just aren't listening to the right stuff. And if it is, wtf is country and pop music?
- Cheetos are grossly overrated.
- Britney Spears> your favorite artist.
- Elvis was a fad.
- Missy Elliott is a legend
- Michael and Janet's careers can't be touched by anybody. I don't wanna hear it.
- If you listen to Country, you should reconsider life. Ok i'll admit some of country is good.
- Puma should be normalized.
- Pepsi is gross. I like their commercials though.
- Sushi is gross.
- E-books are overrated.
- Black is the best color.
- Lebrons and KD's are ugly.
- Blackout is the bible of pop
- Freakshow is the best song of 2007.
- We should redesign the school system.
- Burger King is good y'all just like to hate on it because everybody else does.
- Vegan Burgers should not be sold at fast food restaurants. They are gross and they are cooked with the other burgers so yeah.
- Trains> airplanes and buses
- Maryse> The Bella Twins
- If you eat more than one burger a week, you are greedy and disgusting.
- Milk is overrated.
- Orange juice is the best fruit juice.
- Insatiable should be a more popular word.
- The USA is overrated.
- Cooked onions>
- The show Friends is very grossly overrated.
- Q shouldn't be in the alphabet.
- Babies should be banned at movie theaters.
- We should get rid of tipping and raise pay.
- P.E. classes shouldn't be mandatory, classes on eating healthy and on finances should be.
- Coffee is nasty. Hot chocolate>
- Pulp in juice should not be a thing.
- Rice Cakes are better than Rice Crispy Treats
- Spam> Bologna.
- People need to stop complaining about stuff in the good old days. It's over with Jan.
- Business with only a facebook page shouldn't be allowed.
- Telling a man to "man up" is disgusting.
- If you record yourself giving stuff to the homeless, just go ahead and give them everything you have.
- Stop sending children to get everything for you!
- If you have an adult child that doesn't talk to you, it's your fault.
- If you still listen to Marilyn Manson, seek help.
- There's nothing wrong with sleeping in your car.
- Telling people wikipedia is unreliable is weird.
- Early retirement should be normalized.
- Stop giving genders to everything. First off Jan, that's a *female* mosquito biting you.
- People that say racism isn't as bad as it was are the problem. You don't even know what it is.
- Men are abused in relationships too it's not a joke.
- Math is fun, but schools don't make it fun.
- When someone admits to a mistake, stfu and leave it alone!
- LG should've never been in the phone business.
- C Spire> T-mobile
- There's nothing wrong with homeless people using your money to buy cigarettes. What else are they gonna do with a few dollars?
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:20:28 AM
Pls y'all are so tasteless.. Hip Hop is a great genre. It's better than country, grunge, and k-pop.
Boy, is that the faintest praise ever.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Telling people wikipedia is unreliable is weird.
Heh. I once had a college professor who deviated from the typical "wikipedia is not a reliable source" stance, and went off on a tangent for half of an hour long-lecture about how great wikipedia is because you can easily click from one article to the next and waste tons of time learning new things that way :-D
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- If you record yourself giving stuff to the homeless, just go ahead and give them everything you have.
Couldn't agree more - if you truly care about helping the homeless, you wouldn't be recording it.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Babies should be banned at movie theaters.
Somewhat related - lately I've been to breweries that are instituting an age minimum to even be on the premises at all. One had it set at 12, while another was all the way up at 21.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:20:28 AM
Pls y'all are so tasteless.. Hip Hop is a great genre. It's better than country, grunge, and k-pop.
Grunge died about 25 years ago.
I'll add to your post... Why do music stores pull a lot of their CD selection only to add large sections of k-pop CDs? I really doubt Americans listening to that buy physical media at a higher rate than average.
"Idiocracy" implicitly argues for eugenics and is a despicable movie
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 05, 2021, 08:03:29 AM
Arizona switches from Mountain time to Pacific time when DST starts.
My opinion is the reverse: California switches from Pacific Time to Mountain Time when DST starts.
Quote from: SectorZ on April 06, 2021, 02:39:33 PM
I'll add to your post... Why do music stores pull a lot of their CD selection only to add large sections of k-pop CDs? I really doubt Americans listening to that buy physical media at a higher rate than average.
K-pop fans buy CDs more as a novelty rather than actually using it to listen to the tracks.
You can watch Polymatter's video on K-pop linked here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bbfFf07WNw
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Q shouldn't be in the alphabet.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on April 06, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Q shouldn't be in the alphabet.
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kAnon
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
"Idiocracy" implicitly argues for eugenics and is a despicable movie
Anyone who waters my garden with Brawndo is going to take a 500-year nap.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 06, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Q shouldn't be in the alphabet.
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What to we do about Quentin's Theme? Spell it Kwenton?
The convenience store chain in Wisconsin is spelled Kwik Trip.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 06, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
- Pulp in juice should not be a thing.
disagree
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- Rice Cakes are better than Rice Crispy Treats
depends which brand
Phoenix is the world's most livable city. Vancouver is a shithole.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
I like snow, and prefer winter to summer.
Quote from: bm7 on April 06, 2021, 11:04:57 PM
I like snow, and prefer winter to summer.
That is an unpopular opinion
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2009/03/18/most-like-it-hot/
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.
I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
I wouldn't die. I'd curl up inside the winter weight sleeping bag. If necessary, with a dog.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.
I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.
I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"
The whole argument is based on personal preference. There is no right answer.
The whole back and forth is dumb. (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.
Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.
Yeah, but no one said Boston was the most livable city in the world...
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
Also, for what it is worth I kept that house at 88F during the day and would lower it to 85F at night. That was about the only way not to have the AC constantly running and have a $300-$400 plus utility bill. That's something I don't think many people consider when they look at Phoenix on the surface level when they haven't had to contend with all the ramifications of that level of summer heat. You can acclimate but most people from other states struggle their first year as residents.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on April 07, 2021, 08:40:06 AM
"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"
The whole argument is based on personal preference. There is no right answer.
The whole back and forth is dumb. (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off. Choose the thermostat setting wisely.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
Also, for what it is worth I kept that house at 88F during the day and would lower it to 85F at night. That was about the only way not to have the AC constantly running and have a $300-$400 plus utility bill. That's something I don't think many people consider when they look at Phoenix on the surface level when they haven't had to contend with all the ramifications of that level of summer heat. You can acclimate but most people from other states struggle their first year as residents.
Did your neighbors notice? Also, if you paint your roof white, you'll really reduce your AC bills
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
...
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
That sounds like fun, but personally I think I'd be too nervous of falling in and wouldn't catch a wink of sleep. I'd just relax and stargaze all night instead.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
:popcorn:
The Great Lakes > the ocean
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:
Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 07, 2021, 11:16:22 AM
The Great Lakes > the ocean
It depends in what regard you're referring to.
As much as I love the Great Lakes, the ocean is better for spending a day at the beach. On the other hand, the Great Lakes do have scenery that is superior to much of the Atlantic coast, Maine being the biggest exception.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.
That's especially true of one's fingers and toes. If I have to wear gloves thick enough to render my fingers functionally useless, then that mindset has failed me. Likewise, if I'm wearing two pairs of socks and my toes are still so cold they hurt.
Unpopular opinion:
It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:
Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.
Hmm...I've always liked hot weather, I used to be skinny now I'm obese, and I'm a male.
I must be an outlier to all these "definitive" statements.
Unpopular opinion posted by certain posters' responses in this thread:
An opinion is not the same thing as a fact (except insofar as it may be a fact that a given individual has a certain opinion).
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on April 07, 2021, 08:40:06 AM
"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"
The whole argument is based on personal preference. There is no right answer.
The whole back and forth is dumb. (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off. Choose the thermostat setting wisely.
It comes to this: If it's way too cold, you can simply put on the proper number of layers and you'll feel fine. If it's way too hot, you can be butt naked and you'll still feel hot. So that's why I'd much rather it be very cold than very hot.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 11:50:56 AM
If it's way too cold, you can simply put on the proper number of layers and you'll feel fine.
Disagree.
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe.
This is false. You can absolutely be struck by lightning if it's not raining. That is how most wildfires in the West start.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.
That's especially true of one's fingers and toes. If I have to wear gloves thick enough to render my fingers functionally useless, then that mindset has failed me. Likewise, if I'm wearing two pairs of socks and my toes are still so cold they hurt.
However, with gloves that thick, are your fingers actually still cold? I would suspect not.
And if your toes are still cold with two pairs of socks, you could wear a different type of shoe that is better at keeping the cold and/or moisture out. My toes have never gotten cold while wearing work boots, for example.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
Unpopular opinion: It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.
If by this you mean in public, then yes, that is unpopular. Or at least,
perceived as unpopular to such an extent that even if people actually agree, they wouldn't be free to say so.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.
That's especially true of one's fingers and toes. If I have to wear gloves thick enough to render my fingers functionally useless, then that mindset has failed me. Likewise, if I'm wearing two pairs of socks and my toes are still so cold they hurt.
Unpopular opinion: It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.
Okay, that came out of nowhere
^ I don't think it's the nudity as much as who wants to be naked honestly. If it was Marilyn Monroe circa 1960 or the AT&T lady wanting to run around naked, people would be "hell yes!" but because it's Chubby Hubby and senior citizen Marvin who want to be nude in public, people go "fuck no I don't want to see that, eww" .
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 11:50:56 AM
If it's way too cold, you can simply put on the proper number of layers and you'll feel fine.
Disagree.
For the vast majority of the world, it's rare that someone will encounter a situation where they have to wear so many layers that they will have restricted movement. Usually, an undershirt, a sweatshirt, and a nice thick coat does just fine.
Think of it this way: Normal room temperature is accepted as 70°. If it's 40 degrees hotter, it's 110°. That's very hot and there is nothing you can do to relieve yourself of the discomfort short of sitting in an air conditioned building. But if it's 40 degrees colder, it's 30°, and that's nothing too bad and if you have a decent coat and a sweatshirt like I previously said, you will feel fine and won't have restricted movement. Living in the Northeast, I've experienced this all my life (not the 110° though, more like 90).
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:05:57 PM
Okay, that came out of nowhere
So did the expectation that you have to wear clothes in public.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on April 07, 2021, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
...
Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.
Hmm...I've always liked hot weather, I used to be skinny now I'm obese, and I'm a male.
I must be an outlier to all these "definitive" statements.
I wouldn't necessarily call them "definitive"... but with that said, you're still 1.5 for 3 if you call the weight one a draw.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
And I disagree, Phoenix "was" the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years. It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.
wut?
The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.
Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
Also, for what it is worth I kept that house at 88F during the day and would lower it to 85F at night. That was about the only way not to have the AC constantly running and have a $300-$400 plus utility bill. That's something I don't think many people consider when they look at Phoenix on the surface level when they haven't had to contend with all the ramifications of that level of summer heat. You can acclimate but most people from other states struggle their first year as residents.
Did your neighbors notice? Also, if you paint your roof white, you'll really reduce your AC bills
I have no idea, I wouldn't cared if they did. When the roof is 120F plus it will be an uphill battle with cooling no matter what color it is. It was just easier to adapt my mode of comfort slightly to the environment of Phoenix than paying the literally price of trying to keep the interior of the house at 70F.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:53:45 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
...
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
That sounds like fun, but personally I think I'd be too nervous of falling in and wouldn't catch a wink of sleep. I'd just relax and stargaze all night instead.
It wasn't too bad. I lived off of Pima Road which backed up to the open desert of the Salt River Reservation. I usually stayed out of the house while I was waiting for the AC to be fixed by going to work or in one case a day trip to hike in Sedona.
Peeing on the side of the road is more convenient than trying to find an actual restroom the majority of the time. .
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
However, with gloves that thick, are your fingers actually still cold? I would suspect not.
Generally, yes, they're still cold. But that's not the point: I was emphasizing that it's not
practical to wear gloves that thick.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
And if your toes are still cold with two pairs of socks, you could wear a different type of shoe that is better at keeping the cold and/or moisture out. My toes have never gotten cold while wearing work boots, for example.
I agree that my toes are less likely to still be cold if I'm wearing my waterproof leather work boots. But those aren't cheap compared to, say, a pair of flip-flops from Old Navy. Work boots also don't really go with, say, a suit and tie. I once attended a graveside service in Buffalo, MN, with temperatures below zero and snow on the ground–in suit and tie, with dress shoes on my feet. I just dealt with the cold.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
Unpopular opinion: It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.
Okay, that came out of nowhere
No it didn't. It came out of the discussion about only being able to take off so many clothes during hot weather.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 07, 2021, 12:07:54 PM
I don't think it's the nudity as much as who wants to be naked honestly. If it was Marilyn Monroe circa 1960 or the AT&T lady wanting to run around naked, people would be "hell yes!" but because it's Chubby Hubby and senior citizen Marvin who want to be nude in public, people go "fuck no I don't want to see that, eww" .
...as we perpetuate the myth of the ideal body type and sexualize the female body...
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 11:50:56 AM
If it's way too cold, you can simply put on the proper number of layers and you'll feel fine.
Disagree.
For the vast majority of the world, it's rare that someone will encounter a situation where they have to wear so many layers that they will have restricted movement. Usually, an undershirt, a sweatshirt, and a nice thick coat does just fine.
I disagreed with the assertion that I "feel fine" while wearing the proper number of layers in cold weather. Usually, at least some part of my face is still exposed and cold. If there's wind, my scarf sometimes doesn't do the job well enough, or it shifts slightly and allows the cold in. My peripheral vision and/or hearing is impaired by wearing a stocking cap low over my brow and ears. Et cetera.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 12:15:41 PM
Peeing on the side of the road is more convenient than trying to find an actual restroom the majority of the time. .
Even more convenient are those stadium buddies :bigass:
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:05:57 PM
Okay, that came out of nowhere
So did the expectation that you have to wear clothes in public.
Well, not
completely out of nowhere, considering that it is a societal expectation developed over thousands of years.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
It's only a curse for those that had so much of themselves wrapped up in what they for work that they end up losing their purpose in life when they retire. Speaking for myself I'm hoping to retire at 55, at current moment I'm on pace to do so. There is much outside of work that I do now that would easily occupy all that time I spend at work. I've been in a career for 20 years at this point, it doesn't define who I am. It is (IMO) unhealthy to live to work or let work define how you live.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 12:15:57 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
And if your toes are still cold with two pairs of socks, you could wear a different type of shoe that is better at keeping the cold and/or moisture out. My toes have never gotten cold while wearing work boots, for example.
I agree that my toes are less likely to still be cold if I'm wearing my waterproof leather work boots. But those aren't cheap compared to, say, a pair of flip-flops from Old Navy. Work boots also don't really go with, say, a suit and tie. I once attended a graveside service in Buffalo, MN, with temperatures below zero and snow on the ground–in suit and tie, with dress shoes on my feet. I just dealt with the cold.
Flip-flops in the winter? That doesn't seem like a recipe for warm feet...
With that said, cold tends to affect your extremities first, while heat tends to affects your whole body, which is partly what makes it worse IMO. There's also the fact that your body temperature is warmer than normal room temperature, so the proper comparison for, say, -10F would be 150F. I'll take the -10F and bundle up, thank you very much.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
It's only a curse for those that had so much of themselves wrapped up in what they for work that they end up losing their purpose in life when they retire. Speaking for myself I'm hoping to retire at 55, at current moment I'm on pace to do so. There is much outside of work that I do now that would easily occupy all that time I spend at work. I've been in a career for 20 years at this point, it doesn't define who I am. It is (IMO) unhealthy to live to work or let work define how you live.
I currently am putting aside 1/5 of my income, between FICA and 401k contributions, for my retirement. That's a lot of money that I'd rather be able to spend on something else. Think of the states forever struggling with unfunded pension liabilities.
And in the future, technology should give us more than enough leisure time for travelling, playing golf, and spending time with our grandchildren.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
Flip-flops in the winter? That doesn't seem like a recipe for warm feet...
No, flip-flops in summer. My point was that it's much easier and cheaper to dress your feet for hot weather than for cold weather.
Also, my wife used to wear flip-flops in the winter in Minnesota winters, exposed toes tromping through the snow. Crazy college kids...
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
And in the future, technology should give us more than enough leisure time for travelling, playing golf, and spending time with our grandchildren.
Yeah, I used to watch the Jetsons too.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 07, 2021, 12:07:54 PM
Chubby Hubby
See also: https://www.benjerry.com/flavors/chubby-hubby-ice-cream/pint
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
Flip-flops in the winter? That doesn't seem like a recipe for warm feet...
No, flip-flops in summer. My point was that it's much easier and cheaper to dress your feet for hot weather than for cold weather.
Well, of course, the less you wear, the easier and cheaper it is. Work boots and flip flops are the extremes, while the "average" shoe is somewhere in between.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:46:59 PM
Work boots and flip flops are the extremes, while the "average" shoe is somewhere in between.
And they are generally comfortable in hot weather but not cold weather.
I hate the beach. I never liked going there as a kid. I hated swimming in the ocean because of all the sand. The only thing remotely enjoyable about the beach was picking up seashells. I would much rather go to the mountains than the beach.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
It's only a curse for those that had so much of themselves wrapped up in what they for work that they end up losing their purpose in life when they retire. Speaking for myself I'm hoping to retire at 55, at current moment I'm on pace to do so. There is much outside of work that I do now that would easily occupy all that time I spend at work. I've been in a career for 20 years at this point, it doesn't define who I am. It is (IMO) unhealthy to live to work or let work define how you live.
I currently am putting aside 1/5 of my income, between FICA and 401k contributions, for my retirement. That's a lot of money that I'd rather be able to spend on something else. Think of the states forever struggling with unfunded pension liabilities.
And in the future, technology should give us more than enough leisure time for travelling, playing golf, and spending time with our grandchildren.
Regarding finances I learned a lot from my Mom and Dad. Firstly, my Mom was an accountant for General Motors and was really good at conveying/teaching how save money the correct way. My Dad on the other hand was an excellent example of how poor money management and a lack of savings skills can bury anyone at any income level. My Mom retired with four pensions, substantial savings and a home paid off. My Dad conversely continued to make bad financial decisions which saw him living in poverty when he couldn't work anymore. My Dad was the one making several fold more than my Mom, but the end result favored her decidedly better money management.
I saved a lot of my immediate income out of high school for about maybe four/five years. After that I was established enough in what I do to save and spend money on enjoying things in life. Considering most of my early adult years were spent establishing my career anyways I guess it worked out because it kept me away of expensive things that I couldn't afford. Most people I knew in high school went with the 2.3 kids, a dog and a white picket fence approach the Baby Boomers had in early adult life. It worked out for a couple but most ended up struggling and living paycheck to paycheck for years, some still do.
I guess that I'm not of the mindset of waiting to the end of my life to attempt to enjoy it. By the time I was thirty I had been fifty National Parks, seen all of the Continental U.S., been several countries and even became somewhat accomplished athletically. Really considering how much I actually accomplished between 18-30 years of age I don't think it could have gone much better than it did. It certainly wouldn't have played out that way if I married one of the girls I dated back and had a family that I couldn't afford on my income alone. At the very least I feel as though my Wife and I are in far better position to have a family with minimal impact on our lives now given we are well established financially.
But really I don't think any degree of technology is going to simply life to the point where people won't have to be smart with money.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 07, 2021, 01:22:24 PM
I hate the beach. I never liked going there as a kid. I hated swimming in the ocean because of all the sand. The only thing remotely enjoyable about the beach was picking up seashells. I would much rather go to the mountains than the beach.
I don't like beaches all that much or swimming but I do enjoy water. I would gladly fish, have a picnic or go boating on a nice quiet lake over a hectic beach.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:21:58 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:05:57 PM
Okay, that came out of nowhere
So did the expectation that you have to wear clothes in public.
Well, not completely out of nowhere, considering that it is a societal expectation developed over thousands of years.
Yeah, but developed from where?
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Yeah, but developed from where?
If you go down that path, then
everything developed out of nowhere, or else perhaps divine revelation. It's the beginning of a meaningless conversation.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Yeah, but developed from where?
If you go down that path, then everything developed out of nowhere, or else perhaps divine revelation. It's the beginning of a meaningless conversation.
Not entirely true. Some things have developed out of basic human instincts and needs, or ever-present aspects of nature. But not wearing clothes for privacy, that was originally only to protect oneself from the elements.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Yeah, but developed from where?
If you go down that path, then everything developed out of nowhere, or else perhaps divine revelation. It's the beginning of a meaningless conversation.
But yet, I'm taking a guess it spawned out of a need to stay warm. That was kind of a thing once humans began to migrate out of tropical climates.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
The blessing is if once you're NOT fit to work you can afford to retire.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 03:01:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 07, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Yeah, but developed from where?
If you go down that path, then everything developed out of nowhere, or else perhaps divine revelation. It's the beginning of a meaningless conversation.
But yet, I'm taking a guess it spawned out of a need to stay warm. That was kind of a thing once humans began to migrate out of tropical climates.
But that doesn't explain why humans who never migrated out of tropical climates still wear them.
Quote from: US 89 on April 07, 2021, 03:21:27 PM
But that doesn't explain why humans who never migrated out of tropical climates still wear them.
Not all tropical cultures do–just most.
Interestingly, I recall learning about a tribe in Papua New Guinea (I think) who wear nothing but a cord around their waist to hang tools on–otherwise completely nude. A westerner once asked a member of the tribe why he never went out without that cord around his waist. In response he got a shocked look and the answer
What, you mean naked??
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 12:15:57 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 07, 2021, 12:07:54 PM
I don't think it's the nudity as much as who wants to be naked honestly. If it was Marilyn Monroe circa 1960 or the AT&T lady wanting to run around naked, people would be "hell yes!" but because it's Chubby Hubby and senior citizen Marvin who want to be nude in public, people go "fuck no I don't want to see that, eww" .
...as we perpetuate the myth of the ideal body type and sexualize the female body...
Make no mistake that I agree with you on this, I'm just saying that's probably why we're still douchebags as a society about this instead of growing up that bodies are bodies.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:53:45 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
...
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week. I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me. It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.
That sounds like fun, but personally I think I'd be too nervous of falling in and wouldn't catch a wink of sleep. I'd just relax and stargaze all night instead.
I've fallen asleep on a pool float many times.
It's no different than sleeping on a bed, or a couch. How often have you fallen off of them?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 07, 2021, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:53:45 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun. I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed. At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
...
I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool
My assumption was that I would wake up. The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem. ...
That sounds like fun, but personally I think I'd be too nervous of falling in and wouldn't catch a wink of sleep. I'd just relax and stargaze all night instead.
I've fallen asleep on a pool float many times.
It's no different than sleeping on a bed, or a couch. How often have you fallen off of them?
I haven't used pool floats that much, but I could probably fall asleep on one for a brief afternoon nap. That's different than a full night, though, when it's dark and you might be startled or disoriented by any movement. Also, falling into the pool is much more dangerous than falling off the couch or out of bed.
I'm on concerta. I can't fall asleep in the middle of the day.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
I am basically "retired" at the moment (between regular jobs, working on establishing a business at my own schedule and pace) and I like it. Most people have things they like to do that would be difficult or impossible to make a living at. It's nice to have time to indulge in those activities instead of wasting time doing pointless things for someone else's benefit.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
Retirement is a blessing, and would be more so if it weren't wasted on the elderly. Better if we could work things so we can enjoy retirement while young, and return to work when we get tired of retirement and/or run out of money.
(speaking as someone who got to retire relatively early, from a workplace which used early-outs and buyouts to replace us expensive old farts with cheaper and more energetic young squirts)
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 07, 2021, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
I am basically "retired" at the moment (between regular jobs, working on establishing a business at my own schedule and pace) and I like it. Most people have things they like to do that would be difficult or impossible to make a living at. It's nice to have time to indulge in those activities instead of wasting time doing pointless things for someone else's benefit.
While that would be great to have in my view it isn't a necessity to have a good life. I have a career that has consistently frustrated me for two decades, but it has enabled me the financial freedom to indulge the things I actually enjoy in life, I don't see that as a negative. So many think that a successful career is something that is a prerequisite for happiness in life.
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
It's only a curse for those that had so much of themselves wrapped up in what they for work that they end up losing their purpose in life when they retire. Speaking for myself I'm hoping to retire at 55, at current moment I'm on pace to do so. There is much outside of work that I do now that would easily occupy all that time I spend at work. I've been in a career for 20 years at this point, it doesn't define who I am. It is (IMO) unhealthy to live to work or let work define how you live.
I currently am putting aside 1/5 of my income, between FICA and 401k contributions, for my retirement. That's a lot of money that I'd rather be able to spend on something else. Think of the states forever struggling with unfunded pension liabilities.
And in the future, technology should give us more than enough leisure time for travelling, playing golf, and spending time with our grandchildren.
I certainly agree with the final clause of kernals12's first post on this issue: Of course we would all be better off if we could remain healthy enough to keep working until we die. But that's not the same thing as saying we'd be better off if we kept working, which I think almost all of us would disagree with. My mom was certainly thankful that she and my dad were able to retire and take some long trips together to various parts of the world, trips that they would not have been able to take had either of them still been working. Now that my dad's gone, she's said she doesn't think she'll travel abroad again–she might do some domestic travel, but she has no interest in working again because she has enough other things she wants to do.
As far as saving money for retirement and wishing you could spend that money on other things.....most likely nobody's forcing you to save (unless your employer has some mandatory amount you must contribute), so if it bothers you so much, reduce or eliminate your contribution. It'll cause you difficulty later, of course.
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 07, 2021, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
I am basically "retired" at the moment (between regular jobs, working on establishing a business at my own schedule and pace) and I like it. Most people have things they like to do that would be difficult or impossible to make a living at. It's nice to have time to indulge in those activities instead of wasting time doing pointless things for someone else's benefit.
But aren't you glad to have that new business to work toward? I find that free time is more enjoyable when I know it'll eventually end. I mean, how is retirement all that different than unemployment, except that you planned ahead for it?
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Yes it is.
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Yes it is.
No offense, but I always thought it was a slightly creepy-but-silly clown.
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Yes it is.
I'm not sure whether to believe this or not, considering the pictures you've posted elsewhere on the forum.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 07:48:26 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Moving on:
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
It's only a curse for those that had so much of themselves wrapped up in what they for work that they end up losing their purpose in life when they retire. Speaking for myself I'm hoping to retire at 55, at current moment I'm on pace to do so. There is much outside of work that I do now that would easily occupy all that time I spend at work. I've been in a career for 20 years at this point, it doesn't define who I am. It is (IMO) unhealthy to live to work or let work define how you live.
I currently am putting aside 1/5 of my income, between FICA and 401k contributions, for my retirement. That's a lot of money that I'd rather be able to spend on something else. Think of the states forever struggling with unfunded pension liabilities.
And in the future, technology should give us more than enough leisure time for travelling, playing golf, and spending time with our grandchildren.
I certainly agree with the final clause of kernals12's first post on this issue: Of course we would all be better off if we could remain healthy enough to keep working until we die. But that's not the same thing as saying we'd be better off if we kept working, which I think almost all of us would disagree with. My mom was certainly thankful that she and my dad were able to retire and take some long trips together to various parts of the world, trips that they would not have been able to take had either of them still been working. Now that my dad's gone, she's said she doesn't think she'll travel abroad again–she might do some domestic travel, but she has no interest in working again because she has enough other things she wants to do.
As far as saving money for retirement and wishing you could spend that money on other things.....most likely nobody's forcing you to save (unless your employer has some mandatory amount you must contribute), so if it bothers you so much, reduce or eliminate your contribution. It'll cause you difficulty later, of course.
I don't if I'll be able to keep working when I'm 67.
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Yes it is.
I'm not sure whether to believe this or not, considering the pictures you've posted elsewhere on the forum.
It's a picture I took with my cell phone several years ago. I made a goofy/creepy face and took it from right up close on purpose. It's still my profile pic on my wife's phone, so that's what pops up whenever I call her. I can't recall offhand if the one she has is in color or black and white.
Here are two from just a minute ago, for comparison:
(https://i.imgur.com/HPKkR13.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WICUwN4.jpg)
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 07, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
kphoger's profile pic is creepy 😭
I can't even tell you how many times I've had to remind myself that it's not really him.
Yes it is.
I'm not sure whether to believe this or not, considering the pictures you've posted elsewhere on the forum.
It's a picture I took with my cell phone several years ago. I made a goofy/creepy face and took it from right up close on purpose. It's still my profile pic on my wife's phone, so that's what pops up whenever I call her. I can't recall offhand if the one she has is in color or black and white.
Wow, that changes things. I apologize.
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 11:28:17 AM
Here are two from just a minute ago, for comparison:
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OK, now I don't feel quite so bad. The profile pic really does look like a different person to me.
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
My implied joke is that the one who is hot could end up in his/her birthday suit. And you know what they say about nudists usually being people you don't want to see naked. Hence, choose the thermostat setting wisely.
Verdana sucks.
Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 11:28:17 AM
Here are two from just a minute ago, for comparison:
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Wow. I don't know what I expected you to look like, but it wasn't this. (Not in a bad way, though.) :wave:
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 08, 2021, 04:06:48 PM
Verdana sucks.
Calibri sucks. It is grossly overused.
Quote from: kphoger on July 20, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
You look nothing like what I expected, Jonathan.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 08, 2021, 05:51:20 PM
Wow. I don't know what I expected you to look like, but it wasn't this. (Not in a bad way, though.) :wave:
This seems to be a theme with me.
↓ That's me in the green T-shirt ↓
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3792/9332878410_e5fd0aea65_4k.jpg)
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Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:
Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.
I'll throw a wrench into this one. I'm a fat young man and I like hot weather.
Quote from: Takumi on April 08, 2021, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:
Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.
I'll throw a wrench into this one. I'm a fat young man and I like hot weather.
And I'll throw another wrench, I'm thin and prefer cold weather.
I'm a thin young man and I prefer warm weather
Another unpopular opinion: Clapping sucks. When I watched the inauguration, I was pleased by the absence of pausing for applause. It's probably why Biden was sworn in 10 minutes early.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 08:22:08 PM
It's probably why Biden was sworn in 10 minutes early.
The thing is, he didn't actually become president until 12 noon. So after his swearing in, I saw a lot of people saying "we have a new president now" and "DJT is no longer in office", but what they didn't realize is that Biden wasn't going to officially become president for another 10 minutes.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 08, 2021, 07:47:26 PM
And I'll throw another wrench, I'm thin and prefer cold weather.
I don't like cold weather, but I will tolerate it. I'm not crazy about 90 with 60 percent humidity, either, but I will tolerate it.
Early to mid-Spring is my favorite weather.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 08:22:08 PM
Another unpopular opinion: Clapping sucks. When I watched the inauguration, I was pleased by the absence of pausing for applause. It's probably why Biden was sworn in 10 minutes early.
Yeah, that is one thing that annoys me a lot about political speeches. The State of the Union is the absolute worst when it comes to that. I kind of want to become president just to see if I can get Congress to applaud lines like "I ate toast for breakfast this morning".
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 08, 2021, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 08:22:08 PM
It's probably why Biden was sworn in 10 minutes early.
The thing is, he didn't actually become president until 12 noon. So after his swearing in, I saw a lot of people saying "we have a new president now" and "DJT is no longer in office", but what they didn't realize is that Biden wasn't going to officially become president for another 10 minutes.
In practical terms, it didn't really matter, since President Trump had left Washington earlier that morning and was either already in Florida or on the way there during that ten-minute window. If there had been anything pressing that happened that needed the immediate attention of the President, it probably would have fallen to Vice President Pence (who was still in Washington) to handle, or they would have just stalled for a few minutes so that President Biden's authority to handle it was unquestionable.
In any event, unless it was something like a nuclear bomb launch, it would have taken enough time for the outgoing administration's orders to be communicated and implemented that nothing would have gotten done until after noon, meaning it would have been kind of silly to try, especially if it was something that the incoming administration would want to belay.
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
I don't know I get bored enough already as is, it would be way worse with an extra 6-6.5 hours to laze around conscious.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 09:46:57 PM
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
"Let's put a smile on those faces everyone, and don't forget to take your Sleep-Pill® before you clock in!"
Corporations are greedy enough. No thank you. In fact, I
like sleeping. It's a hobby!
I did read some (non-medical) article where if you really, really want to put yourself through the hell of adapting to this lifestyle, you can basically force your body to have to adapt to just getting the necessary REM sleep for survival, and thus pick up 5-6 extra hours that way.
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
I've heard there's a nice one in Orleans County!
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
Yet the NPS presence in New York is pretty minimal:
https://www.nps.gov/state/ny/index.htm
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather. Skinny people like hot weather.
:popcorn:
i like moderate weather
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
I'd spend them all wishing I could get a good night's sleep again.
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
I haven't been to any NY state parks, but if they leave Utah's (https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/dead-horse/) in the dust, they must be pretty spectacular.
Quote from: kurumi on April 09, 2021, 12:56:25 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
I haven't been to any NY state parks, but if they leave Utah's (https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/dead-horse/) in the dust, they must be pretty spectacular.
California does really well too.
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
Period.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 09:46:57 PM
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
Don't forget, kernals12 thinks technology is reducing, or will reduce, the number of hours people have to work. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
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Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this: The one who is cold can put something on. The one who is hot can take something off.
The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.
That's especially true of one's fingers and toes. If I have to wear gloves thick enough to render my fingers functionally useless, then that mindset has failed me. Likewise, if I'm wearing two pairs of socks and my toes are still so cold they hurt.
However, with gloves that thick, are your fingers actually still cold? I would suspect not.
And if your toes are still cold with two pairs of socks, you could wear a different type of shoe that is better at keeping the cold and/or moisture out. My toes have never gotten cold while wearing work boots, for example.
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:35:30 AM
Unpopular opinion: It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.
If by this you mean in public, then yes, that is unpopular. Or at least, perceived as unpopular to such an extent that even if people actually agree, they wouldn't be free to say so.
300 lb man says 'hold my beer'.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
I've heard there's a nice one in Orleans County!
The rest are so great that NY wins even
without all the great ones in Orleans County. :-P
Quote from: kurumi on April 09, 2021, 12:56:25 AM
I haven't been to any NY state parks, but if they leave Utah's (https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/dead-horse/) in the dust, they must be pretty spectacular.
Dust isn't much of a thing out here, so I won't guarantee that...
but there are (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Letchworth+State+Park/@42.6512616,-77.9691105,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNwq9m_12B-YEE_pcvf1j4SM9XNO5oS21QG3ckz!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNwq9m_12B-YEE_pcvf1j4SM9XNO5oS21QG3ckz%3Dw152-h86-k-no!7i1600!8i900!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d3d3aa4120a3e1:0x16d99a05232c19ed!8m2!3d42.6512581!4d-77.9691124!5m1!1e1)
some good ones (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Watkins+Glen+State+Park/@42.3703896,-76.8882743,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNWM1usWO0njvqfyAx4cwf20R6rXgvAvKc03XWa!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNWM1usWO0njvqfyAx4cwf20R6rXgvAvKc03XWa%3Dw203-h135-k-no!7i4895!8i3269!4m7!3m6!1s0x89d05f001693f04b:0x7f234172786716de!8m2!3d42.3670659!4d-76.9016898!14m1!1BCgIgAQ!5m1!1e1),
including one (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chimney+Bluffs+State+Park/@43.2816016,-76.9223337,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNHwPjFL8AM1Pk5HbMrb4jKtBWQOtNfvcvj-h0p!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNHwPjFL8AM1Pk5HbMrb4jKtBWQOtNfvcvj-h0p%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4032!8i3024!4m7!3m6!1s0x89d73ea0559f1557:0xbca05b78b7181d70!8m2!3d43.2816028!4d-76.922332!14m1!1BCgIgAQ!5m1!1e1) that I've mentioned as being Utah-esque:
Quote from: webny99 on December 16, 2020, 03:07:23 PM
As for a great lakeshore park with no official beach, it's Chimney Bluffs (in Wayne County). The scenery is Utah-esque (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2886062,-76.9092291,3a,75y,6.29h,77.79t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMQJir4PG-g6E_XhWw7sXpnjWnthOY7tNxxIIaK!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMQJir4PG-g6E_XhWw7sXpnjWnthOY7tNxxIIaK%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya337.36722-ro-0-fo100!7i9728!8i4098!5m1!1e1) at points, and with the lake in the background...
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Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 09:46:57 PM
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
Don't forget, kernals12 thinks technology is reducing, or will reduce, the number of hours people have to work. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/8vsLVMl.png)
Quote from: kernals12 on April 09, 2021, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 09, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 09:46:57 PM
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
Don't forget, kernals12 thinks technology is reducing, or will reduce, the number of hours people have to work. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/8vsLVMl.png)
So basically the same since the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act. I'm pretty sure that graph isn't including exempt status, it does get abused by employers constantly.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 09, 2021, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 09, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 09:46:57 PM
Just imagine how employers would exploit that...
Don't forget, kernals12 thinks technology is reducing, or will reduce, the number of hours people have to work. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/8vsLVMl.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlNIVXpIns
Quote from: oscar on April 07, 2021, 11:16:10 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 12:20:17 PM
Retirement is a curse, not a blessing and we would all be better off if we could remain fit enough to work until we die.
Retirement is a blessing, and would be more so if it weren't wasted on the elderly. Better if we could work things so we can enjoy retirement while young, and return to work when we get tired of retirement and/or run out of money.
(speaking as someone who got to retire relatively early, from a workplace which used early-outs and buyouts to replace us expensive old farts with cheaper and more energetic young squirts)
These two seemingly opposite statements are equally true for me.
I would retire right now if I could.and...
I don't ever plan to retire. I'm going to continue working until the day I die.Also, here's an opinion that isn't necessarily popular.
This forum suffers from selective moderation.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 09, 2021, 11:31:13 AM
This forum suffers from selective moderation.
I do see the occasional partisan selective moderation, but it's usually deciding not to moderate those on the left, not overmoderating those on the right. This forum is definitely not overmoderated.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
In the middle of the night? No thanks. Winter is bad enough already because of that.
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
Lakeside Beach State Park is the best one right?
Quote from: webny99 on April 09, 2021, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2021, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
I've heard there's a nice one in Orleans County!
The rest are so great that NY wins even without all the great ones in Orleans County. :-P
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 09, 2021, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
New York has the best State Parks, and it's not even close.
Lakeside Beach State Park is the best one right?
Well, he did say 'great' but stopped short of saying 'best'.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
I wish someone could invent a pill that eliminated the need for sleep. Just imagine what you'd do if you had an extra 8 hours in a day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTg2nHZEHQ
Quote from: hbelkins on April 09, 2021, 11:31:13 AM
This forum suffers from selective moderation.
...not enough Wawa and Louisville threads for you this week?
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
Most cities I've lived in have gone through garbage strikes and couldn't make a two weeks between pickups before being overrun by trash. People aren't going to do something en mass if it is made difficult for them (a problem frequent with recycling programs).
As an aside... Considering the high percentage of how much recycle material actually gets disposed of in more conventional ways the lofty status recycling holds for many is overblown.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2021, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
Most cities I've lived in have gone through garbage strikes and couldn't make a two weeks between pickups before being overrun by trash. People aren't going to do something en mass if it is made difficult for them (a problem frequent with recycling programs).
As an aside... Considering the high percentage of how much recycle material actually gets disposed of in more conventional ways the lofty status recycling holds for many is overblown.
I grew up in a town where you had to (and still have to) pay for a key to a smelly dumping facility outside town hall. You basically unlock a door and are granted access to a fenced-in area (later upgraded to a building you drive thru) where there are dumpsters you throw your household trash in. If you have anything big to throw away like a couch or something you leave it inside the fenced area and the town deals with it when their dumpsters get emptied.
When I moved out, to the city of Norman, I had a couple of apartments that had a dumpster on site, so instead of driving five miles to dump the trash I had to walk a few hundred feet. When I moved into a freestanding house, they had polycart service (trash and recycling!) picked up by garbage/recycling trucks, and I only have to walk the few dozen feet to push them to the curb.
I like the garbage trucks. It's just annoying when I forget it's Friday and forget to put them out on the curb, or can't remember whether it's recycling day or not. If I had to drive five miles to the town dump I'd probably be too lazy to actually do it until my garage gets kind of smelly. And that would be a problem, especially since I don't have a pickup truck like my parents have.
Alabama takes in a tremendous amount of recyclable material from other states, to the point where it's a decent economic engine. Even though I try to recycle when possible (it's a free service where I live), the sad fact is that much of the material is unusable, and basically creates more trash...sometimes 80-90% of it is unusable out of ignorance or lowered demand for recycled glass and plastic; they're a decreasing export in recent years.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
I've always wondered how your town survived that. I can't see the average Range Rover driver loading their trash bags into the back and having to drive (especially if far away since Wellesley put the dump literally on the border of Needham) stinking up a six-figure vehicle. When I lived in a much poorer place than Wellesley but on an "unapproved" new street I had to drive my trash to a dump for 4 years. That pissed me off to no end but I was also paying for trash pick-up and not getting it.
Does anyone pay for private pick-up in the town?
Quote from: SectorZ on April 15, 2021, 08:59:29 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
I've always wondered how your town survived that. I can't see the average Range Rover driver loading their trash bags into the back and having to drive (especially if far away since Wellesley put the dump literally on the border of Needham) stinking up a six-figure vehicle. When I lived in a much poorer place than Wellesley but on an "unapproved" new street I had to drive my trash to a dump for 4 years. That pissed me off to no end but I was also paying for trash pick-up and not getting it.
Does anyone pay for private pick-up in the town?
Yes, some people do private pickup. And we like the dump. There are places you can drop off old books and furniture for someone else to take for free. It's just a part of town life. And I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Quote from: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
We don't need garbage trucks. My town has gotten by just fine with self service waste disposal for over a century.
The jointly operated landfill in Virginia that is run by Frederick County, Clarke County and the City of Winchester was so efficient that it was impractical to pay for garbage and recycling. They took everything, and even if they couldn't recycle it they would segregate the recycling such that the raw materials would be available to be mined later if ever needed. Some folks found it to be a pain to sort every nit-picky thing, but it was great once you got the hang of it.
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Yes. Adding up all the costs of everyone taking their own to the dump, including their time, having garbage collection looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the biggest utility bill....
A lot of people here went ballistic when the county stopped collecting glass bottles as part of recycling. Instead, there are dedicated purple bins in various locations around Northern Virginia where you can drop off your glass. One of them is the big purple thing seen in this Street View image. (https://goo.gl/maps/ho1Yi48WfKhVhy3a9) Some people groused about having to make a separate trip (dumb argument, in my view–I combine it with other errands, such as dropping off the bottles when I'm on the way to the grocery store), and a lot of people now put their bottles in the trash.
Based on that, I tend to think very few people here would be willing to take their trash to the dump themselves, even if the locations were convenient (neither landfill is convenient for the majority of county residents, and that's really pretty sensible when you think about it–most reasonable people do not want to live near a landfill). The county doesn't provide trash collection to most areas, BTW. In my neighborhood, the HOA arranges for it and bills it as part of our monthly dues. In my mom's neighborhood, the individual homeowners have to arrange for it themselves, though they all use the same one and were able to negotiate a better rate as a result. (I remember 30 or 35 years ago when the people who live across the street from my mom moved in. They didn't know you had to arrange for trash collection and they were astonished on trash day when everyone else's was taken and theirs wasn't.)
Quote from: kkt on April 15, 2021, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Yes. Adding up all the costs of everyone taking their own to the dump, including their time, having garbage collection looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the biggest utility bill....
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 15, 2021, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Yes. Adding up all the costs of everyone taking their own to the dump, including their time, having garbage collection looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the biggest utility bill....
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
Why? Your town has that thing going on, but that doesn't mean other towns would. More to the point, however, that sort of thing can coexist alongside regular trash pickup. I used to live in a place that had one day a year on which residents could put pretty much whatever they wanted out on the curb, and it would get collected. In the meantime, there was plenty of free furniture sitting there for anyone to take home. This was a pretty well-to-do area, so it wasn't unheard-of to find oak furniture out on the curb, ready for the taking. Also, my city has a system of post-mounted boxes around town in which residents can take and leave books. Drop one off, pick one up, completely free.
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 15, 2021, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Yes. Adding up all the costs of everyone taking their own to the dump, including their time, having garbage collection looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the biggest utility bill....
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
Why? Your town has that thing going on, but that doesn't mean other towns would. More to the point, however, that sort of thing can coexist alongside regular trash pickup. I used to live in a place that had one day a year on which residents could put pretty much whatever they wanted out on the curb, and it would get collected. In the meantime, there was plenty of free furniture sitting there for anyone to take home. This was a pretty well-to-do area, so it wasn't unheard-of to find oak furniture out on the curb, ready for the taking. Also, my city has a system of post-mounted boxes around town in which residents can take and leave books. Drop one off, pick one up, completely free.
I've heard of this becoming a thing in more places recently. I believe it's called the "Little Free Library" concept.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 15, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 15, 2021, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
I'm guessing that if people have to take care of their own garbage, they'll produce less of it, which is good for the environment
I wonder if that works out with emissions. How many private vehicles driving to and from the dump equal one garbage truck doing the same?
Yes. Adding up all the costs of everyone taking their own to the dump, including their time, having garbage collection looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the biggest utility bill....
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
Why? Your town has that thing going on, but that doesn't mean other towns would. More to the point, however, that sort of thing can coexist alongside regular trash pickup. I used to live in a place that had one day a year on which residents could put pretty much whatever they wanted out on the curb, and it would get collected. In the meantime, there was plenty of free furniture sitting there for anyone to take home. This was a pretty well-to-do area, so it wasn't unheard-of to find oak furniture out on the curb, ready for the taking. Also, my city has a system of post-mounted boxes around town in which residents can take and leave books. Drop one off, pick one up, completely free.
I've heard of this becoming a thing in more places recently. I believe it's called the "Little Free Library" concept.
Someone around my way was stocking them with toilet paper last Spring instead of books.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
I think that's pretty overrated. Occasionally there was eye-catching stuff at the Goldsby dump, but I can't remember us ever taking anything home after giving it a cursory look-over and discovering why it was thrown out (usually it was broken or otherwise worn out). Certainly didn't justify the added time and energy of having to dump it ourselves.
The only time I got someone's cast-off stuff for free actually happened here in Norman (trash pickup city), when someone the next street over ended their garage sale by marking everything left over down to $0 and leaving it unattended. I got a nice set of small octagonal dishes out of it. There was furniture and stuff too, but it was clear why it hadn't sold.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 15, 2021, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 15, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
But you gotta consider the benefits of free books and furniture
I think that's pretty overrated. Occasionally there was eye-catching stuff at the Goldsby dump, but I can't remember us ever taking anything home after giving it a cursory look-over and discovering why it was thrown out (usually it was broken or otherwise worn out). Certainly didn't justify the added time and energy of having to dump it ourselves.
The only time I got someone's cast-off stuff for free actually happened here in Norman (trash pickup city), when someone the next street over ended their garage sale by marking everything left over down to $0 and leaving it unattended. I got a nice set of small octagonal dishes out of it. There was furniture and stuff too, but it was clear why it hadn't sold.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure my wife and I have ever actually purchased furniture.
Pretty much everything we own was given to us secondhand. No, wait: we do own an old recliner that we bought at a church garage sale–at our own church. And I guess we own one other chair that was bought for us as a Christmas gift, so, even though we didn't buy that one either, it's not secondhand.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 10:21:01 AM
... we do own an old recliner that we bought at a church garage sale–at our own church ...
Good thing you bought it. Otherwise it might have ended up in the Youth Group room. In our church, it seems like most of their furniture is what wasn't good enough to sell at the rummage sale.
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Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 10:21:01 AM
... we do own an old recliner that we bought at a church garage sale–at our own church ...
Good thing you bought it. Otherwise it might have ended up in the Youth Group room. In our church, it seems like most of their furniture is what wasn't good enough to sell at the rummage sale.
That's where it came from.
Somewhere → Youth group → Church garage sale → Our house
At the same garage sale, I also found the Top Gun soundtrack on cassette, which promptly got plenty of use in the car.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 01:29:50 PM
At the same garage sale, I also found the Top Gun soundtrack on cassette, which promptly got plenty of use in the car.
Did you find the highway to the danger zone?
Quote from: formulanone on April 20, 2021, 12:40:30 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 01:29:50 PM
At the same garage sale, I also found the Top Gun soundtrack on cassette, which promptly got plenty of use in the car.
Did you find the highway to the danger zone?
I was nowhere near
I-77 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1353.msg190164#msg190164) at the time.
Quote from: kphoger on April 20, 2021, 09:56:33 AM
I was nowhere near I-77 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1353.msg190164#msg190164) at the time.
Wow. I had seen aerial photos in the Charleston Daily Mail, but never saw the ground photos. My aunt and uncle lived near Exit 114 when I was growing up, but that's the stretch of Interstate in West Virginia that I've been on the least. You can see that BGS from old US-21 (now WV-622, part of the "back road" northwest bypass around Charleston).
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 20, 2021, 12:55:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 20, 2021, 09:56:33 AM
I was nowhere near I-77 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1353.msg190164#msg190164) at the time.
Wow. I had seen aerial photos in the Charleston Daily Mail, but never saw the ground photos. My aunt and uncle lived near Exit 114 when I was growing up, but that's the stretch of Interstate in West Virginia that I've been on the least. You can see that BGS from old US-21 (now WV-622, part of the "back road" northwest bypass around Charleston).
Last time I was through there, you could not even tell that the gas line explosion had occurred.
Vancouver > San Francisco
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2021, 04:53:12 PM
Vancouver > San Francisco
San Diego > San Francisco
^^^
Oakland is nowhere near the hell hole (anymore) that people make it out to be. There are a lot of nice areas of the city with lots of outdoor recreation opportunities.
Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2021, 04:53:12 PM
Vancouver > San Francisco
San Diego > San Francisco
I don't know if that's exactly unpopular around my parts, most people I know prefer San Diego (I also do barely).
San Francisco > San Francisco
St. Paul > Minneapolis
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2021, 05:11:11 PM
I don't know if that's exactly unpopular around my parts, most people I know prefer San Diego (I also do barely).
I've never been to San Diego, but I would say San Diego > Los Angeles without having been to either city. San Diego vs. San Fran is tougher though.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 22, 2021, 05:26:06 PM
St. Paul > Minneapolis
Now I'm curious how unpopular that really is. Personally I haven't spent much time in St. Paul, but at least none what I have seen makes me think it's
worse than Minneapolis (except for the part of I-35E that's basically a parkway and has an absurdly low speed limit, as I recall).
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2021, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2021, 05:11:11 PM
I don't know if that's exactly unpopular around my parts, most people I know prefer San Diego (I also do barely).
I've never been to San Diego, but I would say San Diego > Los Angeles without having been to either city. San Diego vs. San Fran is tougher though.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 22, 2021, 05:26:06 PM
St. Paul > Minneapolis
Now I'm curious how unpopular that really is. Personally I haven't spent much time in St. Paul, but at least none what I have seen makes me think it's worse than Minneapolis (except for the part of I-35E that's basically a parkway and has an absurdly low speed limit, as I recall).
Here is a hot take; I would rather visit Fresno and Sacramento over Los Angeles. Both have way more to offer in terms of nearby recreational opportunities and you don't have to deal with all the congestion BS that Los Angeles has. Los Angeles really is a grimy city unto itself, I don't know why people associate anything glamorous with the place.
San Diego > Tuscon > Los Angeles
Baton Rouge > New Orleans
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2021, 05:22:37 PM
San Francisco > San Francisco
fort collins > cheyenne
Quote from: CoreySamson on April 22, 2021, 09:49:31 PM
San Diego > Tuscon > Los Angeles
Baton Rouge > New Orleans
I think that I prefer Tucson given it backs up to Saguaro National Park and the weather was always nice climbing the Catalina Highway to Summerhaven.
I never really understood the appeal of New Orleans. Even the French Quarter is in rough shape and I'm not really into getting tanked anyways.
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San Francisco > San Francisco
fort collins > cheyenne
I don't think that's too unpopular. Cheyenne sucks. :D
Chris
Maybe I picked a bad fertilizer day, but Fort Collins smelled much worse.
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Is it though with that huge cost of living problem it has? That's a big issue in my book with livability that could have it lose in an upset to some other West Coast cities.
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 23, 2021, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on April 23, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2021, 05:22:37 PM
San Francisco > San Francisco
fort collins > cheyenne
I don't think that's too unpopular. Cheyenne sucks. :D
Chris
On a similar note, the old joke goes, "why is Oklahoma so windy? 'cuz Texas sucks and Kansas blows..."
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2021, 08:50:28 PM
Now I'm curious how unpopular that really is. Personally I haven't spent much time in St. Paul, but at least none what I have seen makes me think it's worse than Minneapolis (except for the part of I-35E that's basically a parkway and has an absurdly low speed limit, as I recall).
It's an unpopular opinion growing up on the Minneapolis side like I did.
Quote from: formulanone on April 23, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
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San Francisco > San Francisco
fort collins > cheyenne
I don't think that's too unpopular. Cheyenne sucks. :D
Chris
Maybe I picked a bad fertilizer day, but Fort Collins smelled much worse.
Normally Greeley is the smelly kid when they burn the blood.
Chris
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Is it though with that huge cost of living problem it has? That's a big issue in my book with livability that could have it lose in an upset to some other West Coast cities.
Unfortunately it does, but it's not as severe as SF and LA. Portland is going through the same market issues, but doesn't have the higher wages to help ease the pain.
At least the commuting distances from the affordable suburbs aren't too far in comparison, though traffic will still be an issue.
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Is it though with that huge cost of living problem it has? That's a big issue in my book with livability that could have it lose in an upset to some other West Coast cities.
Unfortunately it does, but it's not as severe as SF and LA. Portland is going through the same market issues, but doesn't have the higher wages to help ease the pain.
At least the commuting distances from the affordable suburbs aren't too far in comparison, though traffic will still be an issue.
I got to thinking fairly recently how come nobody brings up Sacramento in these scenarios about large west coast cities? The City is actually kind of easy to get around with a decent mix of road and mass transit options (even with the unbuilt freeways). The cost of living isn't through the roof like the Bay Area and the City doesn't seem to have any real political inclinations despite being the state capital.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 23, 2021, 04:43:16 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2021, 08:50:28 PM
Now I'm curious how unpopular that really is. Personally I haven't spent much time in St. Paul, but at least none what I have seen makes me think it's worse than Minneapolis (except for the part of I-35E that's basically a parkway and has an absurdly low speed limit, as I recall).
It's an unpopular opinion growing up on the Minneapolis side like I did.
Ha, well that explains the bias. :D
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Is it though with that huge cost of living problem it has? That's a big issue in my book with livability that could have it lose in an upset to some other West Coast cities.
Unfortunately it does, but it's not as severe as SF and LA. Portland is going through the same market issues, but doesn't have the higher wages to help ease the pain.
At least the commuting distances from the affordable suburbs aren't too far in comparison, though traffic will still be an issue.
I got to thinking fairly recently how come nobody brings up Sacramento in these scenarios about large west coast cities? The City is actually kind of easy to get around with a decent mix of road and mass transit options (even with the unbuilt freeways). The cost of living isn't through the roof like the Bay Area and the City doesn't seem to have any real political inclinations despite being the state capital.
I don't mind Sac but most people I know in the Bay Area equate it with overly hot weather (including a few folks who grew up there and visit family often). Of course, there are plenty of people around who think SF is too cold. Apparently the Sacramento area is a top place for Bay Area folks trying to find a bit more space at lower cost, especially during the pandemic.
Quote from: citrus on April 23, 2021, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
We should spin this off into a city bracket competition or something. Pairing up similar-sized cities for fairness.
Also, Seattle is still the most livable U.S. city on the West Coast.
Is it though with that huge cost of living problem it has? That's a big issue in my book with livability that could have it lose in an upset to some other West Coast cities.
Unfortunately it does, but it's not as severe as SF and LA. Portland is going through the same market issues, but doesn't have the higher wages to help ease the pain.
At least the commuting distances from the affordable suburbs aren't too far in comparison, though traffic will still be an issue.
I got to thinking fairly recently how come nobody brings up Sacramento in these scenarios about large west coast cities? The City is actually kind of easy to get around with a decent mix of road and mass transit options (even with the unbuilt freeways). The cost of living isn't through the roof like the Bay Area and the City doesn't seem to have any real political inclinations despite being the state capital.
I don't mind Sac but most people I know in the Bay Area equate it with overly hot weather (including a few folks who grew up there and visit family often). Of course, there are plenty of people around who think SF is too cold. Apparently the Sacramento area is a top place for Bay Area folks trying to find a bit more space at lower cost, especially during the pandemic.
Sacramento certainly would be a far more desirable place to live compared to Stockton or Modesto. I still can't believe people really commute from there to San Francisco everyday. I guess the heat of the Central Valley doesn't bother me after living in Phoenix and Orlando.
But Sacramento isn't on the coast. And it is overly hot a lot of the time, except when it's foggy.
Quote from: kkt on April 23, 2021, 07:59:27 PM
But Sacramento isn't on the coast. And it is overly hot a lot of the time, except when it's foggy.
Hence why I said what I did regarding Phoenix and Orlando. Stacked up to 120F or humidity or 80% the low 100F range is a breeze. FWIW Sacramento does have access to the coast by way of the Delta. Mind you, it's kind of hideous at times with a major Florida Everglades vibe.
Quote from: formulanone on April 23, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 23, 2021, 12:25:50 PM
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Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2021, 05:22:37 PM
San Francisco > San Francisco
fort collins > cheyenne
I don't think that's too unpopular. Cheyenne sucks. :D
Chris
Maybe I picked a bad fertilizer day, but Fort Collins smelled much worse.
wind might have been out of the se that day... cuz greeley really smells bad.
United States > Canada
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 26, 2021, 09:21:11 PM
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United States > Canada
Canada > United States
Both are debatable
Hell I think Mexico is more interesting than both.
For visiting, maybe, for living, hell no.
The grass is always greener on the other side, as they say. :)
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
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Quote from: andrepoiy on April 26, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
United States > Canada
Canada > United States
Both are debatable
Hell I think Mexico is more interesting than both.
For visiting, maybe, for living, hell no.
I don't know about that. I could probably add a room the family house in Jalisco and retire with what I have saved. I really enjoy the slower pace of life down there.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 26, 2021, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 26, 2021, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 26, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
United States > Canada
Canada > United States
Both are debatable
Hell I think Mexico is more interesting than both.
For visiting, maybe, for living, hell no.
I don't know about that. I could probably add a room the family house in Jalisco and retire with what I have saved. I really enjoy the slower pace of life down there.
Maybe in some select cases, but in terms of standard of living the US and Canada always rank far above Mexico.
Well, yeah, because US and Canada jobs pay more. But if you can take what you earned at US pay and retire in Mexico, you can certainly get a nicer house.
But a nicer house isn't everything.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 26, 2021, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 26, 2021, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 26, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
United States > Canada
Canada > United States
Both are debatable
Hell I think Mexico is more interesting than both.
For visiting, maybe, for living, hell no.
I don't know about that. I could probably add a room the family house in Jalisco and retire with what I have saved. I really enjoy the slower pace of life down there.
Maybe in some select cases, but in terms of standard of living the US and Canada always rank far above Mexico.
Subjective opinion, that largely depends on what you want out of life and find important.
Quote from: kkt on April 26, 2021, 09:51:12 PM
Well, yeah, because US and Canada jobs pay more. But if you can take what you earned at US pay and retire in Mexico, you can certainly get a nicer house.
But a nicer house isn't everything.
Maybe Mexico is better for rich people.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 26, 2021, 09:51:12 PM
Well, yeah, because US and Canada jobs pay more. But if you can take what you earned at US pay and retire in Mexico, you can certainly get a nicer house.
But a nicer house isn't everything.
Maybe Mexico is better for rich people.
I'm not rich, not even close. What certainly is true though that in a lot of places in Mexico your money goes further does than in the United States. Food for one is usually way less expensive (especially outside big cities) as well buying or building on property. Mind you, the mountain of red tape and safety standards you have in the United States or Canada largely don't exist.
My wife and I are already considering building a room/bathroom addition on the family home Zacoalco de Torres. Given the structure is largely an open air brick/adobe design it quoted below what we anticipated. Mind you by open air, I really mean an open air structure.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 26, 2021, 09:51:12 PM
Well, yeah, because US and Canada jobs pay more. But if you can take what you earned at US pay and retire in Mexico, you can certainly get a nicer house.
But a nicer house isn't everything.
Maybe Mexico is better for rich people.
I'm not rich, not even close. What certainly is true though that in a lot of places in Mexico your money goes further does than in the United States. Food for one is usually way less expensive (especially outside big cities) as well buying or building on property. Mind you, the mountain of red tape and safety standards you have in the United States or Canada largely don't exist.
My wife and I are already considering building a room/bathroom addition on the family home Zacoalco de Torres. Given the structure is largely an open air brick/adobe design it quoted below what we anticipated. Mind you by open air, I really mean an open air structure.
The red tape and safety standards are why many people would prefer the US and Canada.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 26, 2021, 09:51:12 PM
Well, yeah, because US and Canada jobs pay more. But if you can take what you earned at US pay and retire in Mexico, you can certainly get a nicer house.
But a nicer house isn't everything.
Maybe Mexico is better for rich people.
I'm not rich, not even close. What certainly is true though that in a lot of places in Mexico your money goes further does than in the United States. Food for one is usually way less expensive (especially outside big cities) as well buying or building on property. Mind you, the mountain of red tape and safety standards you have in the United States or Canada largely don't exist.
My wife and I are already considering building a room/bathroom addition on the family home Zacoalco de Torres. Given the structure is largely an open air brick/adobe design it quoted below what we anticipated. Mind you by open air, I really mean an open air structure.
The red tape and safety standards are why many people would prefer the US and Canada.
If I wanted 2.3 kids, a dog and a white picket fence I never would have left Michigan. That stereotypical American suburban dream was never for me.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
Hell I think Mexico is more interesting than both.
For visiting, maybe, for living, hell no.
I don't know about that. I could probably add a room the family house in Jalisco and retire with what I have saved. I really enjoy the slower pace of life down there.
Maybe in some select cases, but in terms of standard of living the US and Canada always rank far above Mexico.
How does that make it less interesting to live in?
My best friends have lived in Mexico for the last couple of years, and they find it plenty interesting.
(It's my long-term goal as well.)
crunchy > smooth
The US beats both Canada and Mexico in terms of COVID vaccines. So, as for the pandemic and everything, I prefer the US because I have a feeling we're gonna get back to normal sooner than our neighbors to the north and south.
The reason why I say the US is better than Canada, from a Canadian, are as follows:
1) Cheaper cost of living: We have to pay high taxes, consumer goods here are more expensive (for example fuel, or shipping), and property, especially in Toronto and Vancouver, is way too expensive.
2) Better job opportunities: The United States has a lot of companies and industries that Canada simply does not have. Want a job as an engineer for an automotive company? Welp, we don't have any domestic automotive companies. Same goes for a lot of other things. In addition, the pay in the US is almost always a lot better.
3) Way better economy: The GDP per capita of the United States is $60k compared to $45k in Canada. Texas' economy is already larger than Canada's, despite having 6 million less people. In relation to the 2nd point, due to the US's way more diversified economy, it could sustain itself better than Canada would be able to sustain itself. One very current example is vaccines: the US is able to make its own vaccines and quickly vaccinate its own population. Meanwhile, Canada is begging for vaccines from everywhere else, and we haven't vaccinated any large number of people at all.
4) The United States is the sole superpower in the world. It has both great hard and soft power around the world. With respect to hard power, it has like 700 military bases around the world, the best armed forces of any nation. With respect to soft power, the US' cultural influence around the world is not beaten by any other nation, with American bands, celebrities, TV shows, etc, being known around the world. Canada? Not so much.
5) Greater variety of landscapes in cities in the US: One can choose to live in a city or town that suits them most, since there are a variety of landscapes and lifestyles available in the US. Hate snow? Move south. Hate driving? Move east. Love the desert? Go to Arizona. In Canada, some things, like the cold, is inescapable.
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
crunchy > smooth
For peanut butter, absolutely, unless I'm making the PB&J "sundae" that I would make occasionally as a sweet/salty treat. It's just a bowl of the two mixed together rather than putting them on a sandwich.
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
crunchy > smooth
Unless we're talking about cookies. Chewy cookies are miles better than crunchy cookies.
What even is a "smooth" cookie?
Quote from: webny99 on April 27, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
What even is a "smooth" cookie?
I think he means a chewy cookie.
Quote from: Big John on April 27, 2021, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 27, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
What even is a "smooth" cookie?
I think he means a chewy cookie.
The freshly baked chocolate cookie I had from a bakery last night was more smooth than it was chewy. Really they only ever that way if you get them shortly after they have been baked.
To me, there are three textures of cookie, and none of them are smooth: crunchy (or hard, if you prefer), chewy, and soft.
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crunchy > smooth
Unless we're talking about cookies. Chewy cookies are miles better than crunchy cookies.
Crunchy cookies are almost always some packaged crap like chips ahoy.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: index on April 27, 2021, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
crunchy > smooth
Unless we're talking about cookies. Chewy cookies are miles better than crunchy cookies.
Crunchy cookies are almost always some packaged crap like chips ahoy.
Or Oreos. Or Trader Joe's almond cookies.
Probably unpopular...Trader Joe's is incredibly overrated.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2021, 11:14:07 PM
Probably unpopular...Trader Joe's is incredibly overrated.
All of those type of grocery stores pretending to be a class above your average box supermarket (Joe's, Fresh Thyme, Whole Foods, etc.) have never proven to me why I should choose them over a Cub Foods (MSP's legacy grocery chain).
Quote from: webny99 on April 27, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
What even is a "smooth" cookie?
I thought smooth was analogous enough to chewy. Yes, that's a stretch, but, welcome to my world.
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 27, 2021, 11:50:58 AM
The reason why I say the US is better than Canada, from a Canadian, are as follows:
1) Cheaper cost of living: We have to pay high taxes, consumer goods here are more expensive (for example fuel, or shipping), and property, especially in Toronto and Vancouver, is way too expensive.
2) Better job opportunities: The United States has a lot of companies and industries that Canada simply does not have. Want a job as an engineer for an automotive company? Welp, we don't have any domestic automotive companies. Same goes for a lot of other things. In addition, the pay in the US is almost always a lot better.
3) Way better economy: The GDP per capita of the United States is $60k compared to $45k in Canada. Texas' economy is already larger than Canada's, despite having 6 million less people. In relation to the 2nd point, due to the US's way more diversified economy, it could sustain itself better than Canada would be able to sustain itself. One very current example is vaccines: the US is able to make its own vaccines and quickly vaccinate its own population. Meanwhile, Canada is begging for vaccines from everywhere else, and we haven't vaccinated any large number of people at all.
4) The United States is the sole superpower in the world. It has both great hard and soft power around the world. With respect to hard power, it has like 700 military bases around the world, the best armed forces of any nation. With respect to soft power, the US' cultural influence around the world is not beaten by any other nation, with American bands, celebrities, TV shows, etc, being known around the world. Canada? Not so much.
5) Greater variety of landscapes in cities in the US: One can choose to live in a city or town that suits them most, since there are a variety of landscapes and lifestyles available in the US. Hate snow? Move south. Hate driving? Move east. Love the desert? Go to Arizona. In Canada, some things, like the cold, is inescapable.
Thank you for that. Americans really don't know how good they have it. On a per person basis, they consume 36% more goods and services than their neighbors to the north. And they look at envy with Canada's low healthcare costs, unaware that that's because Canadians get half as much care as they do.
(https://i.imgur.com/iPxA6Ll.png)
I guess I'm not alone in not being at a Trader Joe's or Whole Foods in awhile.
Costco is much more preferable, and apparently a new suburban location is in the works here. Will be interesting to see if the proposed HOT lanes on I-95 will have an impact.
I would also like to point out that the United States is the most popular destination for immigrants, and not Canada. Even though our immigration system might be easier to enter than the US.
Quote from: andrepoiy on April 28, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
I would also like to point out that the United States is the most popular destination for immigrants, and not Canada. Even though our immigration system might be easier to enter than the US.
Yeah, and it's easier to read about too, having read about immigration ports such as Baltimore, Boston, Charleston, New York, and Philadelphia on the East Coast, and notably San Francisco on the West Coast.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
Crunchy cookies are almost always some packaged crap like chips ahoy.
Or homemade.
Also: Chips Ahoy! blue package > Chips Ahoy! red package
Soft and chewy chocolate chip cookies > Oreos > Chips Ahoy
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2021, 11:14:07 PM
Probably unpopular...Trader Joe's is incredibly overrated.
Personally, I think Trader Joe's is
slightly overrated, but that's partly because their stores are so small that there's lines and it seems crowded when it wouldn't in a larger store. They have certain unique items that are very good (Almond Windmill cookies are one of those), but it certainly doesn't make sense to do
all your shopping there when the overall selection, prices, and crowds are worse than what you'd find elsewhere.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2021, 11:31:16 PM
All of those type of grocery stores pretending to be a class above your average box supermarket (Joe's, Fresh Thyme, Whole Foods, etc.) have never proven to me why I should choose them over a Cub Foods (MSP's legacy grocery chain).
Since you mention Cub as your go-to, I'm curious what your thoughts on Hy-Vee are. Hy-Vee has been compared to Wegmans, but is it really that much better than Cub (which is also comparable to Wegmans IMO)?
– Trader Joe's is just fine, so long as you need one of the forty-six items they sell there. I don't think I've ever bought more than about three things there at a time.
– I think of Cub and Hy-Vee as roughly equivalent.
I don't see how Trader Joe's has become successful as it is, considering how they only sell one brand of products, their own. That works for something like a clothing store or an electronics company, but I still don't get how it works for something like supermarket retail, which is literally just a collection of brands under one roof (at least traditionally).
Trader Joe's sticks to more densely populated, wealthier areas (I remember Milpitas, CA wanting and not getting one because of the second point) so it's one of several choices nearby.
Replacing a Safeway, Kroger, Stop and Shop, etc. with a Trader Joe's would highlight deficiencies that otherwise don't matter as much when it's not the primary store in town.
Quote from: webny99 on April 28, 2021, 11:23:34 AM
Since you mention Cub as your go-to, I'm curious what your thoughts on Hy-Vee are. Hy-Vee has been compared to Wegmans, but is it really that much better than Cub (which is also comparable to Wegmans IMO)?
I haven't shopped at a Hy-Vee in around three years when I stayed over a summer in Madison, WI. None of the Twin Cities locations are convenient to me. My impression is Hy-Vee has superior deli offerings to Cub, more like the legacy luxury grocery store offerings in MSP (Lunds/Byerlys).
There is too much equating between innovative and great. Sgt. Pepper was a very innovative and groundbreaking album, but was far from the Beatles' greatest musical work put to a record.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 27, 2021, 04:49:35 PM
There is too much equating between innovative and great. Sgt. Pepper was a very innovative and groundbreaking album, but was far from the Beatles' greatest musical work put to a record.
And sometimes people can't help innovating when they should leave well enough alone. That is, the old "we were so busy thinking about whether we could that we never stopped to think whether we should." Yes, it's very innovative that you can replace all the buttons on a car radio with a touch screen, or that you can make a proprietary combo charging port/audio jack, but
should you?
Trader Joe's is basically an upscale Aldi.
(I'm totally serious. It's even owned by Aldi Nord, which is not the same company as US Aldi, as the founding Albrecht, the Al in Aldi, brothers split the company in the 1960s. The US is the only company aside from Germany in which both Aldi branches operate.)
(Full disclosure, I work for Aldi.)
ALDI has gotten noticeably better in product quality in the last decade or so.
Aldi is a supermarket chain local to me, now branded as Supermercados AltoAragón but still widely referred to as "Aldi".
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on May 29, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
Aldi is a supermarket chain local to me, now branded as Supermercados AltoAragón but still widely referred to as "Aldi".
...and it's a completely separate company than Aldi in the US! Spain's Aldi is "Aldi Nord", while the U.S.'s Aldi is "Aldi Süd".
You are getting it wrong. Supermercados AltoAragón is totally unrelated to the German Aldi ("Fake Aldi" as I know it). However the part about the German Aldi is correct.
Perkins Union > Alanland
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
Perkins Union > Denny's Democratic Dictatorship
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on May 29, 2021, 05:58:22 PM
You are getting it wrong. Supermercados AltoAragón is totally unrelated to the German Aldi ("Fake Aldi" as I know it). However the part about the German Aldi is correct.
Why do people call it Aldi if it isn't Aldi?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:21:24 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
Perkins Union > Denny's Democratic Dictatorship
What's that?
The DDD emerged from a war between the International House of Pain-cakes and Guy Fieri.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 29, 2021, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 29, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
Perkins Union > Denny's Democratic Dictatorship
What's that?
The DDD emerged from a war between the International House of Pain-cakes and Guy Fieri.
Soon to be succeeded by the DDDDD, the Dunkin Donuts-Denny's Democratic Domination.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2021, 07:11:12 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 29, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
Perkins Union > Denny's Democratic Dictatorship
What's that?
The DDD emerged from a war between the International House of Pain-cakes and Guy Fieri.
Soon to be succeeded by the DDDDD, the Dunkin Donuts-Denny's Democratic Domination.
Dunkin' has dropped Donuts from its name.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
The Perkins Union thread was so much fun to read over when I finally got into it (well after the original Perkins Union mania shifted to Alanland, alas). Too bad the original sign pictures are no longer up - those would have been interesting to see. I thought it was hilarious how much the OP protested people talking about roadside executions and the like only to later post a "news" story from the Perkins Union about a nightclub owner being burned at the stake for criminal negligence.
Quote from: vdeane on May 29, 2021, 09:01:32 PM
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Perkins Union > Alanland
The Perkins Union thread was so much fun to read over when I finally got into it (well after the original Perkins Union mania shifted to Alanland, alas). Too bad the original sign pictures are no longer up - those would have been interesting to see. I thought it was hilarious how much the OP protested people talking about roadside executions and the like only to later post a "news" story from the Perkins Union about a nightclub owner being burned at the stake for criminal negligence.
Where were the pics hosted?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 09:07:13 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 29, 2021, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2021, 06:12:43 PM
Perkins Union > Alanland
The Perkins Union thread was so much fun to read over when I finally got into it (well after the original Perkins Union mania shifted to Alanland, alas). Too bad the original sign pictures are no longer up - those would have been interesting to see. I thought it was hilarious how much the OP protested people talking about roadside executions and the like only to later post a "news" story from the Perkins Union about a nightclub owner being burned at the stake for criminal negligence.
Where were the pics hosted?
They were on a Microsoft OneDrive account. I went through the Perkins Union thread not too long after the Alanland thread reopened, and it was possible to root around and find some of the images due to their inclusion in downloadable PowerPoint files, but the effort wasn't really worth the payoff.
Quote from: Big John on May 29, 2021, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2021, 07:11:12 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 29, 2021, 07:06:20 PM
The DDD emerged from a war between the International House of Pain-cakes and Guy Fieri.
Soon to be succeeded by the DDDDD, the Dunkin Donuts-Denny's Democratic Domination.
Dunkin' has dropped Donuts from its name.
Oh, I'm sorry my one-sentence post about Dunkin Donuts merging with Denny's and starting an authoritarian state wasn't accurate enough for you. :P
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2021, 06:43:55 PM
Why do people call it Aldi if it isn't Aldi?
Because it was formerly branded Aldi. They changed the same year Aldi Süd entered Spain, they should have forced the Germans to take another name in Spain (much like Burger King in Australia is called Hungry Jack's). Barbastro is AFAIK the only place in the world to have both.
Android > Iphone
I agree with Android>iPhone, also Windows>MacOS
Quote from: andrepoiy on May 30, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
I agree with Android>iPhone, also Windows>MacOS
Agree on both but I don't think that the second one is unpopular.
One of my friends works in an all-Mac environment and has come to hate OS X with a fiery passion. But it is built on a Unix kernel (Darwin) and therefore includes a POSIX-compatible shell (bash and I think in recent versions zsh). So my friend frequently sends me messages asking how to use the shell to get around the brain-damaged parts of the OS X interface, and I've sent her care packages of bash scripts that let her do what she needs to do more quickly.
iPhone owners: I have an iPhone
Android owners:
https://youtu.be/5ko_INIS-MI
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 28, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
I don't see how Trader Joe's has become successful as it is, considering how they only sell one brand of products, their own. That works for something like a clothing store or an electronics company, but I still don't get how it works for something like supermarket retail, which is literally just a collection of brands under one roof (at least traditionally).
Multiple
varieties or other recipe variations is one thing, but how many different
brands do you really need? I think it's ridiculous when I walk down the aisle of my local Kroger and see, for example, 14 brands of plain kidney beans.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 31, 2021, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 28, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
I don't see how Trader Joe's has become successful as it is, considering how they only sell one brand of products, their own. That works for something like a clothing store or an electronics company, but I still don't get how it works for something like supermarket retail, which is literally just a collection of brands under one roof (at least traditionally).
Multiple varieties or other recipe variations is one thing, but how many different brands do you really need? I think it's ridiculous when I walk down the aisle of my local Kroger and see, for example, 14 brands of plain kidney beans.
Most are subsidiary brands of a major brand. The irregular or broken ones go in the cheaper brand cans.
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Four random images...
One meme.
Men wearing shoes without socks just looks goofy (other than sandals).
The prequels were really bad. They get love mainly because a) a lot of us were kids, and b) they're a fertile source of memes.
Quote from: kphoger on May 28, 2021, 09:24:41 PM
ALDI has gotten noticeably better in product quality in the last decade or so.
Competition will do that. Their primary German competitor LIDL has entered the US market which forced them to renovate their stores.
With regards to store brands, ALDI, Trader Joe's, and LIDL have built their entire reputation around them. Even the traditional supermarkets are getting more into them (Shop-Rite recently took on the "Bowl and Basket" name for their generics). The reason is simple..... its big bucks. While it costs the shopper less, there is more profit margin on the generics vs. the retail brands.
Quote from: Takumi on May 28, 2021, 07:38:30 PM
Trader Joe's is basically an upscale Aldi.
Considering they are owned by the same family, I think that's just a fact, not an unpopular opinion.
Curly fries are shit.
No, the shit comes a while after eating the curly fries together with other greasy food.
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 03, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
No, the shit comes a while after eating the curly fries together with other greasy food.
See, I've found that most fast food if it is fried is way over cooked. That being the case it's one of the most reliable food sources on road trips in terms of not causing diarrhea.
Taco Bell on the other hand is a whole another story...
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 03, 2021, 11:12:14 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 03, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
No, the shit comes a while after eating the curly fries together with other greasy food.
See, I've found that most fast food if it is fried is way over cooked. That being the case it's one of the most reliable food sources on road trips in terms of not causing diarrhea.
Taco Bell on the other hand is a whole another story...
That's why Taco Bell's advertising slogan used to be "Good to Go."
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 05, 2021, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 03, 2021, 11:12:14 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 03, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
No, the shit comes a while after eating the curly fries together with other greasy food.
See, I've found that most fast food if it is fried is way over cooked. That being the case it's one of the most reliable food sources on road trips in terms of not causing diarrhea.
Taco Bell on the other hand is a whole another story...
That's why Taco Bell's advertising slogan used to be "Good to Go."
I mean, why not if you're constipated?
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 03, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
No, the shit comes a while after eating the curly fries together with other greasy food.
a chance i'm willing to take.