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kernals12

Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.

Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.

There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.

I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.


kkt

Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.

Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.

I wouldn't die.  I'd curl up inside the winter weight sleeping bag.  If necessary, with a dog.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.

Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.

There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.

I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.

When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there. 

kernals12

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.

Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.

There exist these things called fireplaces. And blankets. I think I'd manage.

I can play this game too. There exist these things called sprinklers. And swimming pools. Or you can go to Home Depot and buy a window unit.

When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

hotdogPi

Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.
Clinched

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Lowest untraveled: 36

kernals12

Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.

I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.

hotdogPi

Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.

I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.

Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

jemacedo9

"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"

The whole argument is based on personal preference.  There is no right answer. 

The whole back and forth is dumb.  (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)

kernals12

Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.

I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.

Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.

I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool

webny99

Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 06, 2021, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 06, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
Phoenix is the world's most livable city.

Until your air conditioner breaks in summer.
Yawn. You'd die where I live if your heater broke down in winter.

Yeah, but no one said Boston was the most livable city in the world...

Max Rockatansky

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Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.

I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.

Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.

I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool

My assumption was that I would wake up.  The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem.  Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week.  I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me.  It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.

Also, for what it is worth I kept that house at 88F during the day and would lower it to 85F at night.  That was about the only way not to have the AC constantly running and have a $300-$400 plus utility bill.  That's something I don't think many people consider when they look at Phoenix on the surface level when they haven't had to contend with all the ramifications of that level of summer heat.  You can acclimate but most people from other states struggle their first year as residents.

wanderer2575

Quote from: jemacedo9 on April 07, 2021, 08:40:06 AM
"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"

The whole argument is based on personal preference.  There is no right answer. 

The whole back and forth is dumb.  (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)

The whole back and forth comes down to this:  The one who is cold can put something on.  The one who is hot can take something off.  Choose the thermostat setting wisely.

kernals12

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 07, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.

And I disagree, Phoenix "was"  the most livable big city until the real estate prices escalated out of control over the past twenty years.  It was one of the biggest reason I decided to leave after 13 years living there.

wut?

The western third of the United States has a large daytime to nighttime temperature variation.

I know that. But sleeping on mattress floating in a swimming pool strikes me as problematic.

Regarding lightning: if it's not going to rain, and it rarely does in the Phoenix area, it's safe. Even if it does rain unexpectedly, the rain would probably wake him up first, and it would also decrease the temperature enough.
Regarding crime: Except for theft, which won't happen since there's nothing to steal in his pocket, most crime is targeted at a specific person, not at random strangers.

I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool

My assumption was that I would wake up.  The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem.  Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week.  I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me.  It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.

Also, for what it is worth I kept that house at 88F during the day and would lower it to 85F at night.  That was about the only way not to have the AC constantly running and have a $300-$400 plus utility bill.  That's something I don't think many people consider when they look at Phoenix on the surface level when they haven't had to contend with all the ramifications of that level of summer heat.  You can acclimate but most people from other states struggle their first year as residents.

Did your neighbors notice? Also, if you paint your roof white, you'll really reduce your AC bills

webny99

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 09:29:09 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 11:52:13 PM
When the house gets to 100F plus it is a bag of unfun.  I dealt with that for about a week when my AC in Scottsdale was being fixed.  At night I just threw an air mattress on the pool and slept outside.
...

I was thinking that he would fall in to the pool

My assumption was that I would wake up.  The water kept the mattress firm and it was never a problem.  Most nights it was 75-80F outside, it was dry and there wasn't any monsoons to make the air humid that week.  I camp a lot so being outside in the desert in an air mattress or sleeping bag wasn't a big deal to me.  It was substantially better than inside which would crack the high 90s coming down from the heat of the day.

That sounds like fun, but personally I think I'd be too nervous of falling in and wouldn't catch a wink of sleep. I'd just relax and stargaze all night instead.

webny99

Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this:  The one who is cold can put something on.  The one who is hot can take something off. 

The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.


kphoger

Fat people like cold weather.  Skinny people like hot weather.

:popcorn:

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

TheHighwayMan3561


webny99

Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather.  Skinny people like hot weather.


No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:

Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

webny99

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 07, 2021, 11:16:22 AM
The Great Lakes > the ocean

It depends in what regard you're referring to.

As much as I love the Great Lakes, the ocean is better for spending a day at the beach. On the other hand, the Great Lakes do have scenery that is superior to much of the Atlantic coast, Maine being the biggest exception.

kernals12

Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this:  The one who is cold can put something on.  The one who is hot can take something off. 

The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.
That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.

kphoger

Quote from: kernals12 on April 07, 2021, 11:31:10 AM

Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 10:54:32 AM

Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
The whole back and forth comes down to this:  The one who is cold can put something on.  The one who is hot can take something off. 

The first part is true, but the second part is only true to a certain extent, which is one reason why many people (myself included) would rather be too cold than too hot.

That's only practical to a certain extent. Eventually you'll be wearing so many layers that you can't move.

That's especially true of one's fingers and toes.  If I have to wear gloves thick enough to render my fingers functionally useless, then that mindset has failed me.  Likewise, if I'm wearing two pairs of socks and my toes are still so cold they hurt.




Unpopular opinion:  It should be both legal and socially acceptable for people to walk around naked.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jemacedo9

Quote from: webny99 on April 07, 2021, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Fat people like cold weather.  Skinny people like hot weather.




No disagreement from me there, although there are other ways to slice the pie, too:

Young people like cold weather. Old people like hot weather.
Men like cold weather. Women like hot weather.

Hmm...I've always liked hot weather, I used to be skinny now I'm obese, and I'm a male.

I must be an outlier to all these "definitive" statements.

1995hoo

Unpopular opinion posted by certain posters' responses in this thread:

An opinion is not the same thing as a fact (except insofar as it may be a fact that a given individual has a certain opinion).
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

interstatefan990

Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on April 07, 2021, 08:40:06 AM
"Cold is better...it's easier to warm up."
"Hot is better....it's easier to cool down."
"Cold!"
"Hot!"

The whole argument is based on personal preference.  There is no right answer. 

The whole back and forth is dumb.  (<-- That's the unpopular opinion.)

The whole back and forth comes down to this:  The one who is cold can put something on.  The one who is hot can take something off.  Choose the thermostat setting wisely.

It comes to this: If it's way too cold, you can simply put on the proper number of layers and you'll feel fine. If it's way too hot, you can be butt naked and you'll still feel hot. So that's why I'd much rather it be very cold than very hot.
Multi-lane roundabouts are an abomination to mankind.



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