Seeing how active the "Incorrect highways marked on Google Maps (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2001.0)" thread is, I assume this will be quite popular here.
Google Map Maker is basically a tool that you can use to edit the Google Maps data. Yes, the real stuff millions of users rely on. Of course, your edits go through moderation before being pushed to the live map.
It was originally available in a few countries, mostly in the Carribean.
Official article: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2011/04/add-your-local-knowledge-to-map-with.html
PCWorld article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/225558/google_map_maker_launches_in_the_us.html
Article from the initial 2008 release: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2008/06/making-your-mark-on-world.html
Given what changes made by Google employees they've already let through internal 'moderation', I expect to see many more errors like all of US 64 being marked as the Knightdale Bypass.
Well, at any rate, time to remove the secondary route numbers from roads in Henrico County (which has no numbered secondary routes, although it sort of does internally)...
There is only two things I want to fix in Google.
1. See if I can get FL-9A shields on the map finally. I've been fighting with Google on that one, and everytime they say I'm right, the shields still don't get posted. :banghead:
2. See if I can get the non-freeway segment of I-376 Business shown correctly.
Otherwise, I don't know of anything else I want to deal with on that.
I'm trying to get the US 30 freeway in NW Portland marked as such.
Then I'll try to get Bypass 30 marked at least as US 30B.
Does mapmaker in the US allow edits on roads? My understanding was that it would be limited to town buildings and trails.
Quote from: deanej on April 20, 2011, 09:18:49 AM
Does mapmaker in the US allow edits on roads? My understanding was that it would be limited to town buildings and trails.
From what I learned playing around with it last night, you can't edit geometry for current roads, but you could correct names and what type they are. As well as fix route "relations".
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on April 19, 2011, 12:32:20 PM
It was originally available in a few countries, mostly in the Carribean.
I wonder how they picked those countries as test subjects. Presence of offshore bank accounts? :pan:
Small areas, poorly mapped, English speaking (in the main part) - they make good trial countries.
I can't wait 'til they add Canada... so many things to fix.
I see someone fixed the color of the Uniontown-Brownsville section of Turnpike 43.
I was expecting to find a pop-up box, like in Waze, with information on a specific segment to edit as I was going to delete "Amos K. Hutchinson Bypass" from US 119 near Mount Pleasant and PA 66 between New Stanton and South Greensburg.
I tried correcting the error in the routing of US 77 in Norman, Oklahoma, but the correction was rejected.
Probably because Google thinks that Tecumseh still ends at Porter and not 12th Street.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
Probably because Google thinks that Tecumseh still ends at Porter and not 12th Street.
The map on the Mapmaker site shows Tecumseh continuing to 12th Street, but when I tried to mark it as a "major artery" and upgrade it to US 77, I got a reply that said "This segment of Tecumseh Rd. is not part of US 77."
Quote from: PAHighways on April 20, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
I see someone fixed the color of the Uniontown-Brownsville section of Turnpike 43.
That would be me. ;) Still waiting for it to be approved. So, any other person who has a Google account, go review it and say it's right. ;)
I kind of figured it was you.
Quote from: algorerhythms on April 20, 2011, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
Probably because Google thinks that Tecumseh still ends at Porter and not 12th Street.
The map on the Mapmaker site shows Tecumseh continuing to 12th Street, but when I tried to mark it as a "major artery" and upgrade it to US 77, I got a reply that said "This segment of Tecumseh Rd. is not part of US 77."
Submit it again with a link to the ODOT Control Section Map. :P
I've started going around fixing things up in Oregon. I noticed that the default speed limit that Google Maps puts on all freeways is 55mph, 35mph for any arterial, and 25mph for any other road, which probably explains why some of their directions can be kind of screwy sometimes.
^Could you approve my changes on US 30 between NW Vaughn and Nicolai, then? I can't edit the Vaughn to I-405 segments until the other's approved.
I've edited a few things around Florida, south Alabama, and Delaware. Mainly erroneous shields or wrong road types, but also added a few new roads/interchanges.
Quote from: Alex on April 21, 2011, 06:10:07 PM
I've edited a few things around Florida, south Alabama, and Delaware. Mainly erroneous shields or wrong road types, but also added a few new roads/interchanges.
Hey Alex, think you could approve the 9A shield fixes that I made?
Seems Map Maker isn't working at the moment, attempting to choose an area returns a "this service is temporarily unavailable" error.
Quote from: Bickendan on April 21, 2011, 04:27:52 PM
^Could you approve my changes on US 30 between NW Vaughn and Nicolai, then? I can't edit the Vaughn to I-405 segments until the other's approved.
Got those and your US-26 re-routes by I-405.
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on April 21, 2011, 11:13:37 PM
Seems Map Maker isn't working at the moment, attempting to choose an area returns a "this service is temporarily unavailable" error.
Yeah, it's intermittently doing that. Was working fine for me a few years ago, and now I'm getting the message.
I get a lot of "Some or all of a road needed for your request is being reviewed, please try later". Thanks, Google.
I'd like to remove TN's hidden designations from there maps as they aren't signed in the field and my phone keeps wanting to use them instead of the posted route number.
What do you think is the chance of getting that through?
Quote from: mightyace on April 22, 2011, 03:18:22 AM
I'd like to remove TN's hidden designations from there maps as they aren't signed in the field and my phone keeps wanting to use them instead of the posted route number.
What do you think is the chance of getting that through?
Might be possible. I'd "approve" any change if I could figure out where the approval would be hidden. All you would have to do is edit the "relation" for them. And change them from "numbered" to "Obscure".
To do this, select the "Find - Select a Point" and click beside the highway. Then, some icons should pop up on the road. Click one of them and then in the bubble window that shows up, click "Edit". Then select the route that you want to edit (example: Edit entire Florida 9) Then the "relation" should show up and just change any of those that same "numbered" to "Obscure".
Just make sure to do this only if the entire route is hidden in the entire state and is NEVER posted. I'm not sure yet fully on how to deal with partially posted routes. In fact, I can't fully double check my FL-9A work till somebody "approves" or "disapproves" it. Ugh. (yet it seems to be online now...., but it shows and not being approved on my account....)
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 22, 2011, 04:50:10 AM
Quote from: mightyace on April 22, 2011, 03:18:22 AM
I'd like to remove TN's hidden designations from there maps as they aren't signed in the field and my phone keeps wanting to use them instead of the posted route number.
What do you think is the chance of getting that through?
Might be possible. I'd "approve" any change if I could figure out where the approval would be hidden. All you would have to do is edit the "relation" for them. And change them from "numbered" to "Obscure".
To do this, select the "Find - Select a Point" and click beside the highway. Then, some icons should pop up on the road. Click one of them and then in the bubble window that shows up, click "Edit". Then select the route that you want to edit (example: Edit entire Florida 9) Then the "relation" should show up and just change any of those that same "numbered" to "Obscure".
Just make sure to do this only if the entire route is hidden in the entire state and is NEVER posted. I'm not sure yet fully on how to deal with partially posted routes. In fact, I can't fully double check my FL-9A work till somebody "approves" or "disapproves" it. Ugh. (yet it seems to be online now...., but it shows and not being approved on my account....)
What did you do specifically with FL-9A? I found multiple pending edits when I looked and even a FL-9B drawn in. The map shows FL-9A around the entire beltway otherwise.
How do you go about approving an edit?
Although I'm sure this would be fun to tinker with, I'd pretty much rather mark road atlases with the correct route numbers. Faster and easier that way, and it's worked for years! ;)
Quote from: Henry on April 22, 2011, 10:39:32 AM
Although I'm sure this would be fun to tinker with, I'd pretty much rather mark road atlases with the correct route numbers. Faster and easier that way, and it's worked for years! ;)
That's true. However, any changes we can get in will help the millions who use Google Maps and Google Earth and the thousands who use Google Navigation.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 22, 2011, 04:50:10 AM
Quote from: mightyace on April 22, 2011, 03:18:22 AM
I'd like to remove TN's hidden designations from there maps as they aren't signed in the field and my phone keeps wanting to use them instead of the posted route number.
What do you think is the chance of getting that through?
Might be possible. I'd "approve" any change if I could figure out where the approval would be hidden. All you would have to do is edit the "relation" for them. And change them from "numbered" to "Obscure".
To do this, select the "Find - Select a Point" and click beside the highway. Then, some icons should pop up on the road. Click one of them and then in the bubble window that shows up, click "Edit". Then select the route that you want to edit (example: Edit entire Florida 9) Then the "relation" should show up and just change any of those that same "numbered" to "Obscure".
Thanks, I'll try that and post it on here. I'll just do one or two as a test since EVERY US route in this state has a hidden state number.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 22, 2011, 04:50:10 AM
Just make sure to do this only if the entire route is hidden in the entire state and is NEVER posted. I'm not sure yet fully on how to deal with partially posted routes.
Yeah, that could be a problem. If I figure it out, I'll let everyone know. And, there is an example local to me. TN 7 runs concurrent with US 31 from Columbia, TN south to the border, but it Columbia TN 7 strikes out on its own as a posted route.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2548%2F4206856049_596f5b8f60.jpg&hash=65724adfe89de5999a81d0f37e26d17fbcdb09b4) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/4206856049/)
20091222 US 31 N @ TN 7-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/4206856049/) by mightyace (http://www.flickr.com/people/mightyace/), on Flickr
I just found another one. TN 11 follows US 31A and 41A from Nashville to their split in Kirkland. It then follows 31A to Pulaski where 31A ends as it meets with its parent. But, TN 11 heads southwest from Pulaski to the AL border on its own.
I've obscured TN 6 and have requested Saturn Parkway aka TN 396 be shown as freeway.
We'll see what happens.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 21, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: algorerhythms on April 20, 2011, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
Probably because Google thinks that Tecumseh still ends at Porter and not 12th Street.
The map on the Mapmaker site shows Tecumseh continuing to 12th Street, but when I tried to mark it as a "major artery" and upgrade it to US 77, I got a reply that said "This segment of Tecumseh Rd. is not part of US 77."
Submit it again with a link to the ODOT Control Section Map. :P
I did, and now they blocked my account for "suspicious activity" and they want my phone number, which I'm not giving them.
Quote from: Alex on April 22, 2011, 09:49:14 AM
What did you do specifically with FL-9A? I found multiple pending edits when I looked and even a FL-9B drawn in. The map shows FL-9A around the entire beltway otherwise.
How do you go about approving an edit?
I changed it to show the shields. I also too noticed FL-9B, but had nothing to do with that one.
As for approving stuff, you need to click on the "Community Edits" tab and click "Review Edits" on anything that shows up in the current area once you click on the markers.
Quote from: mightyace on April 22, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
have requested Saturn Parkway aka TN 396 be shown as freeway.
I just approved that one.
I've tried to edit a couple things locally, and one of them - a missing road - got approved (the others are still pending). However, while if I look under My Edits it says that it has been published, and it shows up on Map Maker, if you go on Google Maps the change is not there, so I'm questioning how well this thing works...
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on April 23, 2011, 01:14:58 AM
I've tried to edit a couple things locally, and one of them - a missing road - got approved (the others are still pending). However, while if I look under My Edits it says that it has been published, and it shows up on Map Maker, if you go on Google Maps the change is not there, so I'm questioning how well this thing works...
As far as I understand it DTP, the higherup's in Google still have to give final "approval" before it goes online... Even after somebody from the community approves it... :banghead:
Well, that makes sense, simply to prevent vandalism. Otherwise you could have a group of friends get together, one of them make a false change, and the others all go and approve it.
True, OSM doesn't seem to have vandalism issues, although I suspect this is just because it isn't very well known and thus not a target vandals would think of or find attractive. Given the opportunity to vandalize Google Maps, on the other hand... you can be sure there are plenty of idiots out there (*cough*Anonymous*cough*) who would go for that.
I once caught someone on OSM drawing a fictional town, complete with a couple new freeways, in southern Illinois: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:West_Harrisburg.jpg . There's certainly not much vandalism though.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 22, 2011, 04:50:10 AM
To do this, select the "Find - Select a Point" and click beside the highway. Then, some icons should pop up on the road. Click one of them and then in the bubble window that shows up, click "Edit". Then select the route that you want to edit (example: Edit entire Florida 9) Then the "relation" should show up and just change any of those that same "numbered" to "Obscure".
I tried to do the exact opposite - wanted to see if I could get some shields on county routes here (San Diego County, CA). I selected the entirety of CR S2 and changed the identifier from "obscure" to "numbered highway" as "County Route S2". The change was approved last night, but no shields... anyone know something else I can do?
I have successfully realigned a road up in the Santa Cruz Mountains that previously plowed through someone's yard, and that was approved. I think the higher-ups want to approve road changes, but for pedestrian paths (I've edited a couple), they don't care as much and just wait for peer review.
Ugh, I just had to deny some person trying to turn the 10th Street Bypass and Bigelow Blvd into Freeways here in Pittsburgh. :pan: :banghead:
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 01, 2011, 02:04:23 AM
Ugh, I just had to deny some person trying to turn the 10th Street Bypass and Bigelow Blvd into Freeways here in Pittsburgh. :pan: :banghead:
Portions could certainly go either way.
Quote from: NE2 on May 01, 2011, 04:06:06 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 01, 2011, 02:04:23 AM
Ugh, I just had to deny some person trying to turn the 10th Street Bypass and Bigelow Blvd into Freeways here in Pittsburgh. :pan: :banghead:
Portions could certainly go either way.
Well, I've been on both segments the person thought were freeways and they aren't. PennDOT even agrees that they aren't Freeways.
Bigelow has sections of city steps & ped crosswalks between downtown and the top of Polish Hill, and access to some park-let (name escapes me) overlooking the cliff & river.
Is there any way to edit a corridor instead of individual blocks? Because there is a road here that Google thinks is 55mph yet is only 30-40 mph. If I have to edit every block one-by-one that would be too tedious.
Also, why is I-80 through Nebraska labeled as Quebec Route 366 on Google Earth? I try to find the problem segment to fix it but I don't see it when I open the edit page up.
Quote from: Zmapper on May 11, 2011, 09:57:43 PM
Is there any way to edit a corridor instead of individual blocks? Because there is a road here that Google thinks is 55mph yet is only 30-40 mph. If I have to edit every block one-by-one that would be too tedious.
Also, why is I-80 through Nebraska labeled as Quebec Route 366 on Google Earth? I try to find the problem segment to fix it but I don't see it when I open the edit page up.
Tout une partie du plan...
Ceci n'est pas une route.
Quote from: NE2 on May 12, 2011, 12:42:46 AM
Ceci n'est pas une route.
Non non non, celui-ci (http://www.alpsroads.net/404.htm), ce n'est pas une route là .
J'vois pas l'erreur sur la carte ici... :p </French>
We had labeling errors (though not quite like a different countries route being on one of our routes) in the UK - the M25 is called "Autoroute Britannique", and Trafalgar Square was labeled in Welsh - it seems they got them off wikipedia, but didn't check the language first!
Well, the correct alignment of Sea Breeze Dr now shows up on google maps, but there's a couple of problems:
-Google never bothered to address the fact that NY 590 ends at Titus Ave
-the old alignment still shows up and has higher priority!
Quote from: NE2 on April 23, 2011, 02:26:20 PM
I once caught someone on OSM drawing a fictional town, complete with a couple new freeways, in southern Illinois: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:West_Harrisburg.jpg . There's certainly not much vandalism though.
I assume that the purple lines represent the freeways there?
Quote from: Steve on May 12, 2011, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: Zmapper on May 11, 2011, 09:57:43 PM
Is there any way to edit a corridor instead of individual blocks? Because there is a road here that Google thinks is 55mph yet is only 30-40 mph. If I have to edit every block one-by-one that would be too tedious.
Also, why is I-80 through Nebraska labeled as Quebec Route 366 on Google Earth? I try to find the problem segment to fix it but I don't see it when I open the edit page up.
Tout une partie du plan...
Quote from: NE2 on May 12, 2011, 12:42:46 AM
Ceci n'est pas une route.
Quote from: Steve on May 12, 2011, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: NE2 on May 12, 2011, 12:42:46 AM
Ceci n'est pas une route.
Non non non, celui-ci (http://www.alpsroads.net/404.htm), ce n'est pas une route là .
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on May 12, 2011, 01:11:11 AM
J'vois pas l'erreur sur la carte ici... :p </French>
Bonjour viatologists!
Quote from: Henry on May 12, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: NE2 on April 23, 2011, 02:26:20 PM
I once caught someone on OSM drawing a fictional town, complete with a couple new freeways, in southern Illinois: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:West_Harrisburg.jpg . There's certainly not much vandalism though.
I assume that the purple lines represent the freeways there?
That's really blue. The compression wreaks havoc on it.
Here is the problem segment on Google Earth,
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2363%2F5727962424_332f132d31_z.jpg&hash=581b9ee5a00f10731681e9aa9fb3024b811d43a3)
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52377790@N03/5727962424/sizes/z/in/photostream/
Quote from: Zmapper on May 16, 2011, 04:56:32 PM
Here is the problem segment on Google Earth,
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2363%2F5727962424_332f132d31_z.jpg&hash=581b9ee5a00f10731681e9aa9fb3024b811d43a3)
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52377790@N03/5727962424/sizes/z/in/photostream/
I can't seem to find that exact location.
EDIT: I just found it.
http://goo.gl/maps/Jvso
But I just also looked on Google Map Maker and couldn't find it. It seems somebody already "edited" it to remove it. It just hasn't made it yet to the main map.
It also seems that all of US-30 in Nebraska was tagged with it.
Some of changes are simply not worth editing due to frustration:
I made a change to up I-381 from an arterial to a freeway, here are some of the comments back:
QuoteHi, thanks for your efforts. The priority of the road seems to be inappropriate, because the I-381 is a spur route of I-81. Hence, the priority of this road need to be major artery. So please discard this edit by clicking on 'Undo' from the left hand pane under the 'My Edits' tab. Please refer to this link http://goo.gl/dt60w for more information on road priorities. Thanks for mapping!
Now their definition of major artery:
QuoteMajor artery: Any moderate or high-capacity road in an urban area can be classified as a major arterial. They're the most important roads in any city that supports large volumes of traffic, and they also act as city entry or exit points. These roads have few residential entrances, and support commercial areas such as shopping centers, gas stations, and important businesses.
Their definition of a freeway:
QuoteFreeway: The highest priority roads, with high capacity and high speed. Walking and bicycling are prohibited. There are no crossroads or stops on freeways, and they're only accessible by ramps.
I have pointed out the distinction of Interstate 381 as a freeway twice now...
The comment before indicated:
QuoteHi, the changes you have made from 'Major artery' to 'Free way' is inappropriate as you can see a number of intersections along the road. Please undo the edits. Thank you.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Alex, I have your back on that one. I just commented on it.
Everybody else help out. Let's stick it to Google!
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=26&ll=36.617164,-82.186725&spn=0.024801,0.055361&z=15&vpid=1305636321189&hl=en
You guys ought to see the Infiniti dealership located on Middle Country Road east of the Village of The Branch, that's incorrectly shown as being inside Caleb Smith State Park. I saw that yesterday and told GoogleMaps about it.
Quote from: Alex's reviewer on May 17, 2011, 08:31:17 AM
Please undo the edits. Thank you.
Quote from: One of my reviewers
Kindly, 'undo' the edit from 'My Edits' tab.
And this is why this site won't work. They expect us to revert our changes when we thought it was right in the first place; I'm surprised they don't have a revert function built in for other users to change "bad" work. Luckily for me, I'm giving up on this project after about five edits.
I used to be heavily involved in a similar site called "Wikimapia" where doing anything there was a lot easier. Drawing roads and marking places could be done very quickly and didn't require the approval of others first, others would see it and only remove if your place/road was bad.
The only problems I had with that site (which caused me to give up there) is that the higher-up admins allowed someone who drew
a lot of roads very blocky and after giving him a bad vote, he went apecrap on me. Also, others were defending a guy who was marking all of the PA Turnpike's exits with their old exit numbers and when I tried changing them back to the actual numbers, he used Stephen Colbert's "Wikiality" defense on me.
Quote from: Alex on May 17, 2011, 08:31:17 AM
QuoteFreeway: The highest priority roads, with high capacity and high speed. Walking and bicycling are prohibited. There are no crossroads or stops on freeways, and they're only accessible by ramps.
Hehehe. Someone should try to downgrade a lot of the Western Interstates that allow walking and bicycling.
Mr. Matte, have you tried OpenStreetMap? It's primarily a road map, unlike Wikimapia, which started out as just drawing rectangles around features, and (if you care) it's under a free license so it can be forked if things go bad.
Quote from: NE2 on May 17, 2011, 10:14:01 AM
Mr. Matte, have you tried OpenStreetMap? It's primarily a road map, unlike Wikimapia, which started out as just drawing rectangles around features, and (if you care) it's under a free license so it can be forked if things go bad.
Tried it once and found it too confusing. Been wasting my time instead by building 3D models and uploading them to Google Earth (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=1325531990201320722210160&scoring=m) (where the stringency isn't as bad as GMM).
I'm through with Google Map Maker. I tried to remove US 33 from a segment of Broad Street in Richmond that does not carry it (despite some erroneous signage to the contrary), and supplied VDOT route log and traffic data as evidence for the change. The change was denied, resulting in a screwed-up routing of US 33 that has it mysteriously ending at 8th and 9th Streets (it ends at Harrison Street, nowhere near this area). The reasoning:
Hello Will, Thanks so much for your contribution to Google Maps. I've had a chance to review your edit request and unfortunately cannot approve it at this time. The reason is that locally it might not be referred to as such but for folks outside of the area it is also known as U.S. 33. In addition, having that name in the system can also assist with routing. We really appreciate the time and please keep on mapping! Google Reviewer Erick
Right. Even though it's not US 33. Good luck to anyone who plans to continue editing this garbage but I'm through with it.
(This isn't the first time I've had edits denied despite providing links to VDOT documents...)
Yup, the people who review these edits are all hosers. All my edits have been denied, save one. Heck, the people who make the changes are asinine too. Someone removed all the US-89 shields throughout Utah! C'mon folks.
Looks like they removed all the US-89 shields, period; apparently they decided that simply marking the entire route with the street name of "US-89" would be better!
Good to know that Google Maps will now be less reliable than ever.
I put in for US 98 to be removed from the right-angle stretch through Spanish Fort, AL (US 98 instead follows the limited access bypass). Here is what I got with my denial:
QuoteReason: Incomplete or too sparse
Comments: Hi, Good to see you editing maps. I see that the US 98 and State Highway continues through this road(Spanish Fort Boulevard to a stretch. Thanks you.
Like others have said, if they want unreliable maps, they can have at it! :pan: :banghead:
Quote from: Alex on May 18, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
I put in for US 98 to be removed from the right-angle stretch through Spanish Fort, AL (US 98 instead follows the limited access bypass). Here is what I got with my denial:
QuoteReason: Incomplete or too sparse
Comments: Hi, Good to see you editing maps. I see that the US 98 and State Highway continues through this road(Spanish Fort Boulevard to a stretch. Thanks you.
Like others have said, if they want unreliable maps, they can have at it! :pan: :banghead:
That's just nuts. The person who replied can't even form a proper sentence in English, WTF does he/she/it know about roads in the US?
Anyway, I've stopped using Google for their search engine a while ago, and I find their maps slow to load. I've found Bing to be much better, plus I like their bird's eye view.
Quote from: Eth on May 17, 2011, 09:12:18 PM
Looks like they removed all the US-89 shields, period; apparently they decided that simply marking the entire route with the street name of "US-89" would be better!
This is actually a bug as there is no apparent way to add shields to a route. There are lots of posts on their forums about this and there aren't any clear answers.
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on May 18, 2011, 07:42:16 PM
This is actually a bug as there is no apparent way to add shields to a route. There are lots of posts on their forums about this and there aren't any clear answers.
Good to know! I tried to add shields to San Diego (CA) County Route S2, made an edit that was accepted, but nothing was changed. Mostly, I'm wondering if it's acceptable to put county route shields into Google Maps.
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on May 18, 2011, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 17, 2011, 09:12:18 PM
Looks like they removed all the US-89 shields, period; apparently they decided that simply marking the entire route with the street name of "US-89" would be better!
This is actually a bug as there is no apparent way to add shields to a route. There are lots of posts on their forums about this and there aren't any clear answers.
There is a way to add shields to a route in Google.
If you're trying to edit an exsititing route that has their route numbers in "text" already, here are the steps:
1. First select a segment of highway (example (http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=36.615218,-82.200544&fr=0.000689,0.000858&mpp=1.917223&gw=39&ll=36.615252,-82.200115&spn=0.012401,0.02768&z=16&iwloc=0_0&fid=9822480403956056491:3689593737649611213)
2. Click "EDIT".
3. Click "Edit entire U.S. 58"
Once you do that, you can see how they add the "U.S. 58" shields to the map.
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On another note, Alex, you can really see that "Google Reviewer Nandu" doesn't really know his stuff.
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?uid=212817473817773024242&gw=66&hl=en
Just look at some of his "edits" and some of his "reviews". :banghead:
Here what I got:
QuoteDear Author
Your change has been Commented on by Google Reviewer Tapasya, a trusted reviewer.
Comments: Hi, roads are assigned default speeds depending on their priority. Please leave the default value unchanged, if not sure about the speed limit. Here's a help link http://goo.gl/uUac2 for more details on the "Speed" attribute.Please 'Undo' this road by clicking on 'My Edits' tab on the left hand pane. Thanks.
Jeez, I'm just editing the speed limit on a road I take EVERY day.
Plus, I've had problems getting continuous segment to all edit.
I'll fight for these, but that's it. I've got better things to do.
Though with a name like Tapasya, is it possible that these "reviewers" are in Bangalore and know as much about Franklin, TN as I do about Indian roads?
Quote from: mightyace on May 19, 2011, 02:13:22 AM
Here what I got:
QuoteDear Author
Your change has been Commented on by Google Reviewer Tapasya, a trusted reviewer.
Comments: Hi, roads are assigned default speeds depending on their priority. Please leave the default value unchanged, if not sure about the speed limit. Here's a help link http://goo.gl/uUac2 for more details on the "Speed" attribute.Please 'Undo' this road by clicking on 'My Edits' tab on the left hand pane. Thanks.
Jeez, I'm just editing the speed limit on a road I take EVERY day.
Plus, I've had problems getting continuous segment to all edit.
I'll fight for these, but that's it. I've got better things to do.
Though with a name like Tapasya, is it possible that these "reviewers" are in Bangalore and know as much about Franklin, TN as I do about Indian roads?
Just comment back with a StreetView link to one of the speed limit signs on the road and own that dude. ;)
I mean, I edited a SL here on a local road and I had no problems with Google. They agreed and changed it right away. I'll link to it in a sec.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=40.553999,-80.017848&spn=0.011722,0.02768&z=16&iwloc=0_0&gw=55&editids=tArDX5SAqnHhIuuBe8&dtab=overview
It also helps to correct a few business as well in your area to prove to them that you can be trusted in that area...
^^^
You're probably right.
But, as I never suffer for a lack of things to do, I have more productive things to do with my time than argue with Google "reviewers."
QuoteDear Author
Your change has been Commented on by Google Reviewer Tyler Durden, a trusted reviewer.
Comments: Hi, we cannot confirm the name of this segment as 'U.S 77' as per our research.Please provide an extra information about changing the name.Thankyou.
:banghead:
The first rule of U.S. 77 is that you do not talk about U.S. 77.
I've been lurking without posting for a while, but this thread compelled me to finally post. I submitted several edits related to New York routes a couple of weeks ago (correcting termini, removing defunct routes, etc.) and to my surprise all of them were approved. It seems like this is the exception more than the norm, though.
Based on what I've seen in this thread and on my struggles to get my changes approved, the people selected to be moderators at GMM are based outside of the US and/or know nothing about highway systems. So, while moderators deny changes that actually fix an error (like those posted above), they apparently approved somebody's change that put made-up state highways in southern Herkimer County (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mohawk,+ny&aq=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.77566,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mohawk,+Herkimer,+New+York&ll=42.960851,-74.902124&spn=0.022173,0.055747&z=15).
I've seen several other errors that I'd like to fix (such as a "spur" of NY 266 in Tonawanda (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.0113,-78.883424&spn=0.022155,0.055747&z=15)), but the slow speed of the approval process and the continually degrading state of GMaps tempers my enthusiasm. It's certainly not something I'm interested in doing long-term.
So if I wanted to add a state highway shield to a road, what would I do? Add "S.R. 175" or "State Highway 175"...?
Quote from: CL on May 20, 2011, 08:27:15 PM
So if I wanted to add a state highway shield to a road, what would I do? Add "S.R. 175" or "State Highway 175"...?
No, you have to put it like this:
"Pennsylvania 28" and select the "numbered" category. ;)
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On another note, just OWNED one of Google's Mods. :sombrero: This had to deal with the very short freeway segment of PA-28 around I-279. Got them to approve one direction (Northbound), but still waiting for a review of the Southbound direction. But here's the comments:
Quote from: Google Reviewer jakkamHi, as we could see that the segment selected connects 2 different roads and does not travel for longer distance and it cannot be considered as a free way and there is no physical divider present in this road so the divider attribute remains as no divider.Please undo the edits and Please refer to this link http://goo.gl/dt60w for more information on road priorities. Thanks for mapping.
Quote from: meI've changed the "divider" part (even though it has one farther down...), but I WILL NOT change the priority from Freeway. PennDOT (the OWNER of this road) considers it as a freeway. If you would have taken 5 seconds to download that PDF I linked to in a comment I made (here's the link again: ftp://ftp.dot.state.pa.us/public/pdf/BPR_pdf_files/Maps/GHS/Roadnames/allegheny_GHSN.pdf ) and zoom in on the Pittsburgh insert, you would see I was correct. jakkam, do you even live in the USA?
Quote from: Google Reviewer DiegoHello and thanks for mapping with Google. Upon further inspection I have discovered that this is in fact a freeway and it is 35 mph. Thanks again for all your efforts, feel free to add any additional info that might make maps better.
PWNED! :clap: :sombrero:
They put a hole in the middle of Clyde Fant Pkwy. in Shreveport. They've done so much wrong since this project started that I tell people to use Bing or Yahoo.
I made my proposed changes to make Google Navigation more accurate on Android phones and pads.
I don't know their aversion to accurate speed limits as most stand alone GPSes have this feature.
Makes me want to consider buying some GPS software for my Droid!
Quote from: mightyace on May 23, 2011, 03:41:50 AMI don't know their aversion to accurate speed limits as most stand alone GPSes have this feature.
Indeed - why even bother to have the field if you won't use it?
I knew I was going to get questioned when added a new road near me that was built after the satellite pictures were taken, because it cuts through the buildings that are in the picture.
I should have replied "yes it is open to traffic, but I didn't take Quebec Route 366 to get to it!"
so who managed to sneak the absurd Quebec 366 routing through the moderators? I saw it when looking at I-84/US-30 in Oregon! :-D
Geez, I'm surprised that my changes have gone through. And those were a pain to do.
I made several corrections and all but one seem to have been approved except one which was denied. Even though it corrects an omission, trusted reviewer Erick R. denied the change. Does anyone have any idea how you can appeal an error by the reviewer?
This is why Google Maps / Map Maker is failing:
Quote from: Google Reviewer RaviHi, Interstate 381 must be called a freeway conversationally, but the methods of marking a freeway on map maker are different. There are no crossroads or stops on freeways, and they're only accessible by ramps. Please check this link for further understanding http://goo.gl/FDrR4. The priority 'Regional Highway' would be more appropriate. Thanks for your interest!
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&editids=tArDX5SeG1qkRovgL3 :banghead: :pan: :pan: :banghead:
^^^
That's more evidence to my theory that Google's reviews may be in India. In any case, they are obviously not familiar with the areas they are talking about.
Even so, a look at their own StreetViewTM in a case like this would show how silly that was.
Quote from: mightyace on June 29, 2011, 06:35:23 AM
^^^
That's more evidence to my theory that Google's reviews may be in India. In any case, they are obviously not familiar with the areas they are talking about.
Even so, a look at their own StreetViewTM in a case like this would show how silly that was.
The only way a change that involves new infrastructure is approved is if they can see road work in GSV. If the streetview images are old, forget about your changes, they will toss them out. I gave up on making more changes, its not worth the idiotic logic that is used in the responses for denying them (I-381 taking the cake).
I figure it's not worth my time to help a giant corporation make money if they don't want to hear correct answers. No sense in fighting it- it'll just cost them money in the long run.
For the love, US-89 shields are still missing. It's a sad day when one can say a Microsoft product is better than a Google product (aka Bing vs. Google Maps).
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 28, 2011, 06:01:58 AM
This is why Google Maps / Map Maker is failing:
Quote from: Google Reviewer RaviHi, Interstate 381 must be called a freeway conversationally, but the methods of marking a freeway on map maker are different. There are no crossroads or stops on freeways, and they're only accessible by ramps. Please check this link for further understanding http://goo.gl/FDrR4. The priority 'Regional Highway' would be more appropriate. Thanks for your interest!
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&editids=tArDX5SeG1qkRovgL3
:banghead: :pan: :pan: :banghead:
VICTORY!!! :clap: :clap:
I-381 is now a freeway like it should be in Google. :-D
Thank you "Google Reviewer RK" and "John". (NOTE: They also approved the other dirrection as a freeway as well. :))
Quote from: JohnDefinitely closer to a freeway rather than a major artery. It's a limited-access highway - a short one, but it is one nonetheless. The only thing I'd reconsider is the decision between "freeway" and "expressway" - this is not a full-blown multi-lane, limited access, exit-by-exit freeway built for high capacity and high speed. But it's absolutely not just a "major artery." Also, should the Commonwealth Ave name be removed from this portion? It seems that once you cross Keys Street northbound, you drop the Commonwealth Ave name and it becomes I-381 exclusively. But I defer to you - you have the local knowledge, is this the case? Seems odd to have an Interstate highway share a street name, that's all. Finally, let's remove the "divider" designation from this edit. Yes, there is a grass median, but in GMaps, the "divider" tag is used when a single line on the map represents traffic in both directions. This is not the case here, it's been split into two one-way lines, like many other major highways. Per the "Road attributes" help page, follow the instruction it gives - "For roads that are split into two one-way segments and separated by a divider, select 'No divider.'" Thanks for mapping!
Quote from: Approved on Jul 6, 2011 6:44am by Google Reviewer RK
Hi, I agree with John; will make changes as hinted by him.
Here's another reason why Map Maker is failing.
At the moment, Google has NY 31A continuing eastward past its current terminus at NY 31 to its pre-1980s end at NY 19 south of Brockport (link (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.199389,-77.953792&spn=0.022775,0.055747&z=15)). When I tried to remove NY 31A from that segment, I got this:
Quote from: Google Reviewer JayCee
Thank you for your edit. My resources show signs that seem to indicate that this road is still State highway 31. Can you please clarify why you think this route name should be removed? Thanks!
Um, I wasn't trying to remove NY 31... :banghead:
At least I successfully got rid of that phantom NY 28B that I talked about in the
"Incorrect highways..." thread.
I'm pretty much done with Map Maker, after my latest denial. I submitted a deletion of a state road that has not existed in Lee County, Florida since the late 1970's and was denied by two people who claim that the number still exists!! :banghead: Um, no, this route number has been replaced. So I objected my denial and wrote a comment to the two reviewers. Just one more reason to not use this stupid Map Maker. I hope it fails...
I noticed today that Google Maps is finally showing the correct alignment for US 77 in Norman, Oklahoma, months after I had given up on trying to get it right in Map Maker.
Looks like someone changed the expressways near San Jose to freeways...
Just passing by to say that Canada has just been added to the mappable countries!
We're so sorry.
I guess its time to mark all of the Alaska Highway as US 97...
Quote from: Bickendan on October 24, 2011, 11:26:28 PM
I guess its time to mark all of the Alaska Highway as US 97...
I bet ya some idiot will try that, and the stupid Google Mods will approve it. :pan:
my GPS thinks the old alignment of the Alaska Highway in Dawson Creek, BC is "US Highway 97 Road".
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 24, 2011, 11:28:13 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on October 24, 2011, 11:26:28 PM
I guess its time to mark all of the Alaska Highway as US 97...
I bet ya some idiot will try that, and the stupid Google Mods will approve it. :pan:
We'll see. I have this strange perception that Google has been getting more accurate lately... maybe the incident with the private driveway being marked as a national park entrance has finally forced them to adopt some quality control... or maybe the idiots have left NY.
If anyone wants to mess with them, change all the freeways in Wyoming to "national highway". Sources:
Quote from: http://www.google.com/support/mapmaker/bin/static.py?page=guide.cs&guide=1094314&topic=1094373&answer=1098056
Freeway: [...] Walking or biking not allowed
Quote from: http://www.dot.state.wy.us/webdav/site/wydot/shared/Planning/Wyoming%20Bicycle%20&%20Pedestrian%20Transportation%20Plan.pdf p. 9
Bicycles are legally classified as vehicles and can be ridden on all public roadways in Wyoming, although they are discouraged from riding on interstate highways.
:bigass:
Could do that with Oregon as well outside of the major urban boundaries...
Time to bump the 2 month old thread, I think...
While the other errors listed here are pretty minor, Google Map Maker managed to instill a turn restriction on Google Maps, from the cities busiest street to the second busiest! The edit war has been going on a for some time now. Whoever Google picked as reviewers can't seem to grasp their heads around the fact that... satellite imagery can be outdated! :wow:
View the disaster here: http://g.co/maps/u8rrh :pan:
Quote from: Zmapper on December 30, 2011, 12:30:44 AM
While the other errors listed here are pretty minor, Google Map Maker managed to instill a turn restriction on Google Maps, from the cities busiest street to the second busiest! The edit war has been going on a for some time now. Whoever Google picked as reviewers can't seem to grasp their heads around the fact that... satellite imagery can be outdated! :wow:
View the disaster here: http://g.co/maps/u8rrh :pan:
I don't get it - why would there ever be a no right turn at that intersection?
Previously, what the sat imagery showed was the layout of the intersection. However, back in 2010, the city built splitter islands (among other fixes) between the right turn lane and the through lanes, creating a separate "road" according to Google's classifications. Obviously, you can make a right turn there, and have always been allowed to. Some editors can't grasp their head around the fact that 1. Even 2 year old imagery can be outdated and 2. The locals who travel the streets daily can be trusted.
Ah, and the person who drew the separated ramp also added a useless no right turn restriction preventing the router from doing what it would never actually do?
Yeah, exactly.
If you take a look at the Bing Imagery, you can see the new configuration for that intersection.
I realize this is a necropost, but I recently got an opportunity to try editing with GMM for the first time with some changes in my area and I wanted to use an existing thread if possible.
My first change was the extension of KY SR 1017 along Aero Parkway in Florence, Kentucky. As you can see if you look at Google Maps, it's been approved. I cited that it's been signed in the field and is listed in the State Primary Routes Database as KY 1017.
I just went in again and added the extension of KY 717 over the former part of KY 1017 aka Turfway Road, including a short multiplex with a still-current part of 1017. I did the same thing and cited the database, and noted that it has been signed in the field. I suspect this, too will be approved.
EDIT: I tried to include a map of the area in question, but the short link did not work. I've removed that link.
Did the long link work? You can still post that using the URL tags:
(ignore spaces)
[url = http:// www. ilovemylife. com ] (whatever text you want to put in) [ /url ]
I do this all the time when I reference my own website (http://www.ajfroggie.com)...
Quote from: froggie on March 21, 2014, 07:21:26 AM
Did the long link work? You can still post that using the URL tags:
(ignore spaces)
[url = http:// www. ilovemylife. com ] (whatever text you want to put in) [ /url ]
I do this all the time when I reference my own website (http://www.ajfroggie.com)...
It did. I didn't think of using it that way, and the short link is now working.
Here's the area I edited: http://goo.gl/maps/ZAQR9