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#21
Northeast / Re: NY 17/"I-86"
Last post by vdeane - October 20, 2025, 09:58:07 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 20, 2025, 03:03:28 PMI did find the scope of the proposed NY 17 widening to be rather surprising. There is a very strong case for widening between Harriman and Goshen or perhaps Middletown. Beyond that I think there are much higher regional priorities; I'd much rather funding go towards an I-87/I-287 widening in Rockland County or US 6 upgrades than NY 17 west (north) of Middletown.
From the scoping report, the widening alternative would only widen from exit 120 to 130A (Middletown-Harriman).  The only people I hear talking about widening west of there are the advocates, both for and against.
#22
Off-Topic / Re: Minor things that bother y...
Last post by elsmere241 - October 20, 2025, 09:55:45 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 20, 2025, 06:17:37 PMI usually have subtitles on anyways for English movies because a lot of the time I can't understand some of things the actors say.  I rather watch a foreign movie subtitled versus dubbed.

I generally prefer subtitles.  If it's in Italian, I don't really need subtitles and it bothers the heck out of me when it's dubbed.  Unfortunately, my wife can't stand subtitles.
#23
Great Lakes and Ohio Valley / Re: More US 31 upgrades betwee...
Last post by michiganguy123 - October 20, 2025, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 25, 2025, 05:45:59 PMWhatever it costs, it should be pursued (minus the Interstate designation). I think US 31 should be completely freeway from Indianapolis, Indiana to Holland, Michigan (The Zeeland-to-Nunica segment can remain part of M-231).
They should atleast link up M-231 with US-31 north of Holland. Grand Haven is an absolute cluster fuck of stop and go traffic, 40 thousand vehicles per day with like 20 traffic lights and all GPS's still route through there.

Something like this:



There also seems to be a great route here if MDOT wanted to buy up some land. Power lines and farm land



Also tell me why Ottawa county loves their fuck ass 4 way stops
#24
Off-Topic / Re: Minor things that bother y...
Last post by 1995hoo - October 20, 2025, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 20, 2025, 08:17:33 PMThst instead of that.  Autocorrect doesn't correct that at all but will correct "is to I'd" when you want it as a word.  Thst is not a word at all. Is, of course, is a word.

Mine corrects it. Maybe you've mistyped it so often it thinks you meant to do so. That's happened to me a few times with other words.
#25
Off-Topic / Re: Your Favorite Forum Quotes
Last post by Scott5114 - October 20, 2025, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: pderocco on October 20, 2025, 08:02:29 PMI'm not overthinking it, you're overshrugging it.
#26
General Highway Talk / Re: XY Challenge
Last post by wanderer2575 - October 20, 2025, 09:20:12 PM
Another view of I-87 and NY-7 in Latham, NY:

#27
Off-Topic / Re: What song are you currentl...
Last post by Kulerage - October 20, 2025, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: bugo on October 18, 2025, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kulerage on October 12, 2025, 02:58:00 PMCame across this band recently. I kind of dug what I heard and gave the album a spin about an hour ago. Now on the final track as I type this
(Catherine Wheel - Balloon)

I've been listening to Catherine Wheel for more than 30 years. I got into them when I saw the video to "Waydown" and I was blown away. Be sure to listen to the rest of their stuff. I think Ferment is actually one of their weaker albums along with Wishville, even though they both have some great songs on them. Chrome, Happy Days and Adam and Eve are top notch. Be sure to check out the B-side compilation Like Cats and Dogs. It flows better than most albums do. Also, check out Rob Dickinson's solo album Fresh Wine for the Horses. And a live version of "Black Metallic" with the long jam at the end. One of the greatest bands of all time and one of the most underrated and underappreciated bands ever. Congratulations on discovering a band that is little known by the mainstream but highly influential among musicians.
Neat story, and thanks for the tips! I'll be sure to keep this in mind
#28
Off-Topic / Re: Things you are indifferent...
Last post by Big John - October 20, 2025, 09:04:06 PM
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#29
Off-Topic / Things you are indifferent tow...
Last post by Max Rockatansky - October 20, 2025, 09:03:07 PM
Staying always on topic in forum threads. 
#30
Great Lakes and Ohio Valley / Re: More US 31 upgrades betwee...
Last post by monty - October 20, 2025, 08:54:24 PM
I drove US 31 through Tipton and Hamilton Counties today. There are a lot of ongoing projects with Continuous and overlapping work zones.

In Hamilton County, one can easily see the new freeway taking shape with the elimination of driveways and surface crossings, the building of overpasses, and physical removal of some county road access. We may be driving 65 mph through this new segment by Thanksgiving 2027.

In Tipton County, there are very few houses with driveway access left. The concrete anchors to the median cable barriers are installed. These are placed as if the median crossings of county roads will be preserved. I really thought the wire barrier project (to be completed next year) would prompt closures of most Tipton County road surface crossings and reduce them to RIRO or complete closure in harmony with the ProPEL US 31 study.

Attempting to guess at next steps between SR 26 and SR 38... it seems the freeway from I465 will end northbound at the southern Tipton County line, with no decisions yet revealed after the ProPEL US 31 study. I think INDOT will install the lowest possible cost interchange at Division Road in order to eliminate that stoplight and then do nothing in this segment until they receive either political pressure or are forced to address safety issues.

I am curious how long a PEL study is good for. I do not think INDOT has the budget to do much more right now. Being full of years, I have witnessed so many studies of this corridor. It took decades to produce a PEL for the length of the corridor. It feels like ProPEL US 31, while well conducted in my opinion, is just going to gather dust on the shelf beside all the other studies. INDOT will cherry pick a few improvements with special focus on the elimination of stoplights to honor a long term public commitment to create a non-stop Indy to South Bend drive.