You Know You're A Roadgeek If...

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agentsteel53

Quote from: kphoger on April 05, 2012, 03:44:29 PM
It would make sense if it were an uncontrolled intersection, though.  Tho' I've never ever seen one of those with a flashing light at the top.

I would think a flashing light is in contradiction to the idea of "uncontrolled".  the flashing yellow does give the affirmative right of way to the direction of traffic it serves, which is, by definition, a form of traffic control. 
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kphoger

The way I look at things is that actual right of way is not affirmed by any traffic control device or law.  Rather, all devices and laws restrict traffic.  At an uncontrolled intersection, it is not the case that all vehicles have the right of way; rather, all vehicles are compelled to yield.  If I come to an intersection at which only cross-traffic has a STOP sign, I am still compelled to yield to any vehicles that might be unlawfully entering the intersection.  Likewise, a four-way flashing yellow light would indicate to me: Slow down, watch out, prepare to yield.  Not:  no need to yield, everyone else should yield to you.

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Flashing yellows don't give right-of-way (or say that you have priority), nor are they the same as a green light.

From Michigan's (and other states') turn arrows to rule 196 of the UK's Highway Code (about Pelican crossings):
QuoteWhen the amber light is flashing, you MUST give way to any pedestrians on the crossing. If the amber light is flashing and there are no pedestrians on the crossing, you may proceed with caution.
to Malta's use (they do something similar to the traffic signal in Cars with many of their signalised junctions - 4-way flashing amber at night) it is clear that it means that you can go, but you don't have priority: "proceed with caution" (to take the words directly out of rule 48 of Malta's Highway Code.

So flashing yellow means that you don't have priority and you are asked to proceed with caution in 3 different jurisdictions (and IIRC everywhere across the world that uses them). Seems like the junction would work well when traffic levels are low - like at night.

agentsteel53

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here in the US I'm used to flashing yellow being paired solely with flashing red, at intersections ranging from medium (20-25mph) to moderately high speed (as much as 65).  They are the sort of intersection where I anticipate visibility of the side streets proportional to the speed of travel, mainly so I can judge if a car on the side street is about to make a mistake and run the flashing red.

I would never think that the side street also had flashing yellow in the US.  I think to do so here would be inviting disaster.  I don't believe in the US we use traffic signals where it is imperative that one observes the lights that are intended for other directions of travel.  

Sometimes it is helpful to do so (to figure out when your light is about to turn green, or whether it is safe to make a turn on red) but I cannot think of a situation where unawareness of the side-street light could lead to disaster like the misinterpretation of flashing yellow/hidden red vs flashing yellow/hidden yellow.
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Vermont has a flasher where three directions are yellow...

kphoger

Quote from: Steve on April 05, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Vermont has a flasher where three directions are yellow...

North Carolina has a flasher who was arrested for showing people his doghouse assembly.

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Alps

Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 05, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Vermont has a flasher where three directions are yellow...

North Carolina has a flasher who was arrested for showing people his doghouse assembly.
My signal's turned from green to red...

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Quote from: Steve on April 06, 2012, 05:40:20 PM
My signal's turned from green to red...

You're just like Crosstown Traffic.

Alps

Quote from: formulanone on April 06, 2012, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 06, 2012, 05:40:20 PM
My signal's turned from green to red...

You're just like Crosstown Traffic.
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Quote from: Darkchylde on April 10, 2012, 06:30:02 PM
When the first thing you do when making a map of a fictional area is to make a route shield for it.

Also when you order a state-named Interstate shield from said fictional state from the shield gallery.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 22, 2013, 06:27:29 AM
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Sanctimoniously on April 10, 2012, 07:06:08 PM


Also when you order a state-named Interstate shield from said fictional state from the shield gallery.

I think you need a US and state route to go with it  :sombrero:
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Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 05, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Vermont has a flasher where three directions are yellow...

North Carolina has a flasher who was arrested for showing people his doghouse assembly.
:cheers: :clap:

Did he have a big dog or a little one? :D
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Quote from: Sanctimoniously on April 10, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: Darkchylde on April 10, 2012, 06:30:02 PM
When the first thing you do when making a map of a fictional area is to make a route shield for it.

Also when you order a state-named Interstate shield from said fictional state from the shield gallery.

Or when you order a state-name interstate shield for an interstate that only exists as an internet inside joke.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Takumi on April 10, 2012, 07:50:54 PM

Or when you order a state-name interstate shield for an interstate that only exists as an internet inside joke.

here I thought I-366 was a formal proposal in the 50s or 60s or so
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Quote from: Takumi on April 10, 2012, 07:50:54 PM
Or when you order a state-name interstate shield for an interstate that only exists as an internet inside joke.

I think my wife would leave me over that; however, she'd probably forgive me if there was a Springfield/North Tacoma I-401 shield.

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Quote from: texaskdog on April 10, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
You know you're not a true roadgeek if your avatar is either I-99 or I-238 :)
Fuck you.
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