Bypasses of bypasses

Started by ftballfan, March 23, 2011, 02:59:36 PM

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Zmapper

Would E-470 Count? Originally the Denver bypass to the east was I-225 and I-270. Once E-470 opened up it now carries the bypass traffic that is dumb enough to pay the exorbitant tolls.  :pan:


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vtk

Quote from: NE2 on March 23, 2011, 10:13:53 PM
I wouldn't call SR 840 a bypass of anything that goes straight through Nashville. It's a bypass for angular movements and a suburb-to-suburb highway.

That's also how I see I-270 around Columbus and certainly the potential Superbelt / Outer-Outerbelt.  MORPC has dismissed the latter concept, saying another bypass isn't the answer, but I say we'll still need more suburb-to-suburb highways as the metro region grows.




US 40 in Ohio has several 1940's and 50's bypasses of small towns like Etna, which are now obsoleted by I-70. But I am not sure that really counts, because I-70 was not built specifically to bypass those already-bypassed towns, as is being done with US 31 in Indiana.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

achilles765

Quote from: Zmapper on May 23, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
Would E-470 Count? Originally the Denver bypass to the east was I-225 and I-270. Once E-470 opened up it now carries the bypass traffic that is dumb enough to pay the exorbitant tolls.  :pan:

I was wondering the same about Beltway 8/Sam Houston Tollway here in Houston.  same for the Grand Parkway when it's completed, which will be a bypass of a bypass of a bypass.
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roadman65

When the new US 31 freeway around Kokomo, IN will be completed it will bypass the existing part of US 31 that was built in the 50's to bypass the original route that went straight through the heart of the city.

Call it a future bypass of a current bypass, but in two years it will fit this topic.
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mgk920

Here in Appleton, Northland Ave was built in the late 1930s to carry US 41 on a routing that bypassed an older through-town routing.

In 1960, the east-west section of the present-day US 41 freeway was built to bypass that Northland Ave routing due to urban development and the resulting traffic congestion along that surface road.

Mike

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I-25 around Las Cruces NM. Originally, U.S. 85 through downtown was bypassed on the west by an unnumbered bypass along Valley Drive (marked "TRUCK BYPASS"). This is now NM-188. Of course, I-25 bypasses the whole city, as well as old U.S. 85 through and north of Las Cruces. At the U.S. 70 junction, NM-188 changes to NM-185. Not sure why, since it's a straight-across intersection.
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Houston, TX

Current road: US-90A(old US90) runs through downtown, down mains street through Medical Center, and out the south west side.
Current road: I-10/US-90, by passing Texas Medical Center
Current road: I-610, bypassing Houston circa 1950, downtown and all wards
Current road: Beltway 8/Sam Houston Tollway, bypassing what was then Houston all together(currently the city limits extend 5 to 10 miles outside the beltway)
Under constrction: Texas 99/Grand Parkway, bypassing Houston and Suburbs, but still inside the metro area.

Thats some Inception mess right htere.
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jwolfer

Quote from: realjd on March 23, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
Miami is a good example. They originally built the Palmetto Expressway (SR-826) as a bypass, then further bypassed it with the Homestead Extension of Florida's Turnpike.

Also, they're working on (or at least planning) a new toll bypass around the SW corner of Jacksonville - toll SR-23.

The portion from I-10 to SR 21 is in process... parts are 4 lane part super 2 and part 2 lane county road.  at grade intersections now but there are stakes with orange tape going up to complete this portion.  Once it is freeway it will be tolled but the portion between SR21 and I-95 will probably not be done for another 50 years

apeman33

U.S. 54 and U.S. 69 at Fort Scott. 54 could count as a double bypass and 69 as a triple.

54:
* - Original route: Entered from the west on what is now Humboldt St., turned south at National Ave., then east at Wall St.
* - First bypass: U.S. 54 moved one mile to the north most of the way from Bronson to Fort Scott, following a curve that becomes National Ave., then turning east on Wall.
* - Current route: Bypassing the curve and going another half mile to the East, then curving southbound to the Wall St. exit.

69:
* - Original route: Entered from the north on what is now 215th St. (County road), following curves east then south to meet 54 at Humboldt. Following 54 1 block east to National, then over the Marmaton River bridge to Wall St. Continuing south from there, curving at East National before turning south again to leave town.
* - First bypass: Joining 54 one mile north of where it previously did. Following 54's first bypass to Wall St., then its original route.
* - Second bypass: Joining U.S. 54 at the same point, then following the current 54 bypass to Wall St. before leaving town southbound among the remainder of the bypass route.
* - Current route: Moved one mile to the east, joining current 54 where it curves south to head to wall. Leaving town the same way as it did in the second bypass.

yakra

Lincoln IL looks like a bypass-of-a-bypass situation.

Providence RI: US6 was moved from Point St, to old I-195, to new I-195.

US1, Brunswick, West Bath, and Bath, ME
1926: Old Bath Rd, Old Brunswick Rd, Lincoln St
1938, 1st bypass: Bath Rd, State Rd (AKA Witch Spring Hill Rd), Court St
~1947: Leeman Hwy opens, bypassing Court St (2nd bypass) and Centre St (1st bypass)
~1959, 2nd bypass: Bath viaduct bypasses the bits of Leeman Hwy that bypassed Centre St
~1967, 2nd bypass: Freeway bypasses Bath Rd & State Rd.

~1803: Depending on your reckoning, you mad add n+1 to the "nth bypass"es not involving Centre St.
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Remains of ancient bridges predating the eventual Bath Rd & Old Bath Rd routes are to their respective south and north as well.
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sr641

louisville has 2 bypassess
Isaac

Alps

Quote from: sr641 on May 07, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
louisville has 2 bypassess

no it has two loopssess neither one is really a bypassess

sr641

Quote from: Steve on May 07, 2012, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: sr641 on May 07, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
louisville has 2 bypassess

no it has two loopssess neither one is really a bypassess

ya they are bypasses
Isaac

PurdueBill

Isn't the point of this thread to discuss bypasses that were later succeeded by yet another bypass?  What does Louisville have to do with this?

kphoger

Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 05:55:50 AM
Quote from: Steve on May 07, 2012, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: sr641 on May 07, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
louisville has 2 bypassess

no it has two loopssess neither one is really a bypassess

ya they are bypasses

It has neither.  I used to make deliveries in Louisville all the time, and I know all the main roads in and out.  See the map below, and tell me which road is a bypass or a loop:
http://g.co/maps/epvfq

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agentsteel53

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 09:08:51 AM
Isn't the point of this thread to discuss bypasses that were later succeeded by yet another bypass?  What does Louisville have to do with this?

nothing.  sr641 is just being a troll.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 08, 2012, 10:34:46 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 09:08:51 AM
Isn't the point of this thread to discuss bypasses that were later succeeded by yet another bypass?  What does Louisville have to do with this?

nothing.  sr641 is just being a troll.

I'm starting to wonder if "sr641" is another former member with a new name.
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sr641

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Louisville has 2 bypasses. Interstate 264 and Interstate 265. Interstate 264 is a bypass for Interstate 64 and once the Ohio River Bridge is finished on Interstate 265, it will be a bypass for Interstates 64, 65, and 71.
Isaac

agentsteel53

Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 04:55:54 PM
Louisville has 2 bypasses. Interstate 264 and Interstate 265. Interstate 264 is a bypass for Interstate 64 and once the Ohio River Bridge is finished on Interstate 265, it will be a bypass for Interstates 64, 65, and 71.

you need to be bypassed.
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sr641

Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 08, 2012, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 04:55:54 PM
Louisville has 2 bypasses. Interstate 264 and Interstate 265. Interstate 264 is a bypass for Interstate 64 and once the Ohio River Bridge is finished on Interstate 265, it will be a bypass for Interstates 64, 65, and 71.

you need to be bypassed.

I started a poll to see if louisville has 2 bypasses.
Isaac