What kind of car do you drive?

Started by Sanctimoniously, January 06, 2012, 08:05:03 AM

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corco

The Equus is not the best example of a Hyundai- it looks like any late-2000s Japanese luxury car (which look like knock off Mercedes). Hyundai has their own design language- they should express it and not build 2008 Lexus knockoffs


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Quote from: corco on April 16, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
The Equus is not the best example of a Hyundai- it looks like any late-2000s Japanese luxury car (which look like knock off Mercedes). Hyundai has their own design language- they should express it and not build 2008 Lexus knockoffs

Quote from: bulkyorled on April 16, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
It looks like a knock off Mercedes to me  :wow:

It is generic looking, but it's a damn fine automobile for the money. I'm not too picky about the exteriors of my cars though. I'd much rather have an ugly, fast, full-featured car with a nice interior than a nice looking car that's uncomfortable. And while the Equus is hardly unique looking like you guys pointed out, it's hardly ugly.

Sanctimoniously

Quote from: corco on April 16, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
The Equus is not the best example of a Hyundai- it looks like any late-2000s Japanese luxury car (which look like knock off Mercedes). Hyundai has their own design language- they should express it and not build 2008 Lexus knockoffs

It's kinda sad, too, the Equus is supposed to be their $60K+ flagship. I think that the new-generation Sonata is probably the best-looking of Hyundai's models. I guess they should just stick with spicy beige instead of trying to go after Lexus.
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Quote from: formulanone on April 16, 2012, 06:30:10 AM
Edit: Just found out the 2010 Lexus SC 430 was the last vehicle produced for North America with a cassette deck; granted, most of its buyers are retirees, but that model also barely changed since its debut in March 2001. My guess is that Panasonic finally had to twist Toyota's arm a little!
You mean the last Crown Vics and Grand Marquis' didn't have them?


corco

Edmunds says they did

http://www.edmunds.com/mercury/grand-marquis/2011/

QuoteThe 2011 Mercury Grand Marquis is a full-size sedan that seats six people. Standard equipment includes 17-inch wheels, rear air suspension, automatic headlights, foglamps, keyless entry, automatic climate control, a 50/50 split front bench with six-way driver and passenger power adjustability, power-adjustable pedals, leather upholstery, an auto-dimming rearview mirror, a tilting leather-wrapped steering wheel and a CD player stereo. Options include heated seats, a leather-wood steering wheel and a cassette player.

bugo

Huyndai should have made Genesis a marque and made everything from the Genesis sedan in the Genesis lineup.  The Genesis coupe could have gone either way.  That would have been a way to make their cars seem more premium.  Who wants to pay $40K or more for a Huyndai?

corco

Note that the new Equus is completely devoid of Hyundai badges. That said- you're still buying a car from a Hyundai dealer, and even if they may try to make the dealership experience for those buying Equuses more similar to a Mercedes dealer than a place that sells Accents, I can't imagine it's going to be that much better.  They're not dealing in enough volume of premium cars to justify the cost of a premium dealer experience.

bulkyorled

Actually when I said I didnt like Hyundai at all I lied, they look way better than they use to. Newer ones look a lot nicer. The Genesis Coupe & Veloster are awesome. But other than those I wouldn't get one based on design.
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Quote from: bulkyorled on April 17, 2012, 05:07:02 AM
Actually when I said I didnt like Hyundai at all I lied, they look way better than they use to. Newer ones look a lot nicer. The Genesis Coupe & Veloster are awesome. But other than those I wouldn't get one based on design.

I agree with you on the Genesis coupe. It reminds me of the aborted 2010ish Honda NSX, which eventually became this race car. The Veloster, on the other hand, seems to be one of those cars with a "love it or hate it" design, and after seeing a few in person I find it ugly, but at least Hyundai is making it fun to drive, especially with a turbo option in the near future. Can't say that about the CR-Z.
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Quote from: corco on April 16, 2012, 11:14:24 PM
Note that the new Equus is completely devoid of Hyundai badges. That said- you're still buying a car from a Hyundai dealer, and even if they may try to make the dealership experience for those buying Equuses more similar to a Mercedes dealer than a place that sells Accents, I can't imagine it's going to be that much better.  They're not dealing in enough volume of premium cars to justify the cost of a premium dealer experience.

I've only worked on Hyundai dealer, so I can't say for sure if they'll roll out the red carpet to Equus and Genesis owners. But many different brands have loaner cars, and after that and a good warranty with responsive personnel, owners don't really care much if the waiting area has great coffee and a dozen TV sets (but it helps the waiting customers feel better).

corco

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QuoteI've only worked on Hyundai dealer, so I can't say for sure if they'll roll out the red carpet to Equus and Genesis owners. But many different brands have loaner cars, and after that and a good warranty with responsive personnel, owners don't really care much if the waiting area has great coffee and a dozen TV sets (but it helps the waiting customers feel better).

I think it does make a difference- my parents bought a Lincoln recently (they got an MKX- meant to get an Edge but they found a new MKX that had been sitting on the lot for a year at an insanely good price) after exclusively owning Fords, Jeeps, and Oldsmobiles for the last 25 years, and they say the dealer experience is incomparable. They get better loaner cars, service is completed more quickly, the coffee is better, and just the overall attitude of the dealership is a lot better- they don't feel like they're being hoodwinked when they walk out the door.

It's that feeling that the dealer actually cares about you as a person and doesn't just want to get you in and out and charge as much as possible. I'm not sure how they do it, but it's important to a lot of people.

formulanone

Oh, certainly...I think Hyundai still has somewhat of a stigma attached, but when you're undercutting the competition by 20k, there's a reason for that. Typically, a service manager is going to give preferential treatment to the buyer of a top-end car/truck or even more to one who bought one with all the bells and whistles. I think sales of Hyundai's top products are just going to take time to sell in this market; Acura and Infiniti found the luxury market a bit slow-going at first as well...ironically, I think the runaway success if their Excel back in 1986 cemented their initial legacy.

On the other hand, at least it isn't as bad as VW's Phaeton experiment...

Takumi

Well, I got a replacement car last night. Another 4th generation Prelude, this time a 5-speed S (base model) in black. It came with a bunch of spare parts.


I still have the wrecked car. I haven't decided whether to sell it or keep it for parts since the new one is almost identical. I need to put it under a car cover, but last time I did that, someone thought the cover was a toy...
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replacement car


That's some oil stain on the driveway!   :-o  Way to go!

Quote from: Takumi on September 01, 2012, 01:13:07 PM
I need to put it under a car cover, but last time I did that, someone thought the cover was a toy...


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Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2012, 02:11:23 PM
That's some oil stain on the driveway!   :-o  Way to go!
It's from the wrecked car. When I got hit, a quart of oil in the trunk got punctured by something. I appreciate your concern, though.
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
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