Mile markers on non-interstates

Started by golden eagle, April 28, 2012, 11:10:53 PM

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golden eagle

In Nashville, Briley Parkway (TN 155) is signed every two-tenths of a mile in the median, but have the standard green mile markers on the outside lanes every mile.


SSOWorld

Wisconsin has standard white-on-green on all interstates except I-535 and select other routes. No 2 lane highway has any.  The routes (outside interstates) that have them are.  Routes with mile markers are the only ones that have exit numbers.

US 12 (The Lake Geneva stub and the Beltline in Madison)
US 41 (Milwaukee to Marinette)
US 45 (West Bend to US 41 - It actually shares the same mileage with US-41)
US 141 (4-lane portion between Green Bay and Coleman (WIS 64),
US 51 (4 lane portion up to US 8 - Ironically I-39's mile markers actually are for US 51)
US 53 (from I-94 in Eau Claire to Rice lake only (the rest does not - even the at-grade 4 lane north of Rice lake including the freeway stretch SE of Superior)
US 151 (4 lane portions west of CTH Q near Fond du Lac (The FDL bypass itself does not have any)) to Dubuque.
WIS 29 (betwen I-94 and US 41)

The freeway/expressway US 10, WIS 441, WIS 172, WIS 30, US 14's portions and WIS 145 do not have mile markers.

Around cities there are white-on-blue markers with the shield of the highway's mileage in the median counting by .2  Metropolitan I know of that have them are Madison, Milwaukee (though portions have green backgrounds), Wausau, Green Bay, Appleton and Oshkosh

Iowa has mile markers on interstates (the standard) and from what I saw - U.S. routes either standard or small white on green (with a small shield indicating the route number for the mileage above the numbers.  Most freeways have exit numbers though not all (The viaduct in Dubuque doesn't)
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Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?
Michigan does it on the recently rebuilt section of I-196 in Grand Rapids.

KEK Inc.

Washington does on most 1-2 digit state routes.  Washington for some reason doesn't use exit numbers on 3-digit state routes. 
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deathtopumpkins

Every state/US highway that I have driven in Massachusetts (which includes most of eastern half of the state) has standard mile markers every tenth of a mile, though I've heard that some in the western part of the state lack them.
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Quote from: froggie on May 26, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?

Vermont does...and even one better on the Interstates:  every 0.05 mile.  However, the milemarkers on the non-Interstates reset at the town lines.

I was on US 45 in Tennessee and I saw where the mile marker was reset at county lines.

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Quote from: golden eagle on May 29, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 26, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?

Vermont does...and even one better on the Interstates:  every 0.05 mile.  However, the milemarkers on the non-Interstates reset at the town lines.

I was on US 45 in Tennessee and I saw where the mile marker was reset at county lines.

This practice annoys me.  Kentucky does it too.  Especially since I see mile markers as an aid for calls to 911, I wish there weren't five different occurrences of MM 2 along one route.

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Quote from: kphoger on May 29, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
This practice annoys me.  Kentucky does it too.  Especially since I see mile markers as an aid for calls to 911, I wish there weren't five different occurrences of MM 2 along one route.

In Kentucky, 911 calls go to the county dispatcher, so this is not a problem.
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Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2012, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 29, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
This practice annoys me.  Kentucky does it too.  Especially since I see mile markers as an aid for calls to 911, I wish there weren't five different occurrences of MM 2 along one route.

In Kentucky, 911 calls go to the county dispatcher, so this is not a problem.

I would not trust my cell phone provider to route my call to the correct county if I were near the county line.

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Quote from: Master son on May 28, 2012, 02:32:32 AM
Iowa has mile markers on interstates (the standard) and from what I saw - U.S. routes either standard or small white on green (with a small shield indicating the route number for the mileage above the numbers.  Most freeways have exit numbers though not all (The viaduct in Dubuque doesn't)

Iowa will use the MUTCD standard reference location sign with 10-inch numerals for any 4-lane divided roadway and the smaller 6-inch numeral for conventional state highways.  Additionally, for expressway/freeway, each 1/20th mile delineator will feature a milepoint plaque attached.

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Quote from: golden eagle on May 29, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 26, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?

Vermont does...and even one better on the Interstates:  every 0.05 mile.  However, the milemarkers on the non-Interstates reset at the town lines.

I was on US 45 in Tennessee and I saw where the mile marker was reset at county lines.

Arkansas does that on their US and State Routes.
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ftballfan

Quote from: kphoger on May 30, 2012, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2012, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 29, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
This practice annoys me.  Kentucky does it too.  Especially since I see mile markers as an aid for calls to 911, I wish there weren't five different occurrences of MM 2 along one route.

In Kentucky, 911 calls go to the county dispatcher, so this is not a problem.

I would not trust my cell phone provider to route my call to the correct county if I were near the county line.
In Georgia, my family's car broke down right near a county line. My father called 911 and it went to the county we had just left, not the county we were in.

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Quote from: ftballfan on June 01, 2012, 11:17:35 AM

In Georgia, my family's car broke down right near a county line. My father called 911 and it went to the county we had just left, not the county we were in.

hmm, is 911 the appropriate number to call in that situation?  unless the car is obstructing traffic or otherwise a hazard, I'd call AAA. 

if no AAA membership, and no smartphone to look up a tow truck, I'd call 411.  if no 411 service, I'd flag someone down.
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kphoger

You can just dial 9-1-1 and say it's a non-emergency call, then ask the police dispatcher how to proceed.

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deathtopumpkins

Quote from: kphoger on June 01, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
You can just dial 9-1-1 and say it's a non-emergency call, then ask the police dispatcher how to proceed.

Don't most communities have a separate non-emergency number? Everywhere I've lived does.
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Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 01, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
You can just dial 9-1-1 and say it's a non-emergency call, then ask the police dispatcher how to proceed.

Don't most communities have a separate non-emergency number? Everywhere I've lived does.
Yes, but if you're traveling, how do you know?

roadfro

Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 01, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
You can just dial 9-1-1 and say it's a non-emergency call, then ask the police dispatcher how to proceed.

Don't most communities have a separate non-emergency number? Everywhere I've lived does.
Yes, but if you're traveling, how do you know?

Especially since it's not a uniform number. Several major cities have 3-1-1, but in many communities you'd have to look up the 7-digit non-emergency dispatch number.
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deathtopumpkins

My point exactly. I know people back in Virginia who have gotten hung up on for unnecessarily dialing 911 instead of the non-emergency number.
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Quote from: roadfro on June 02, 2012, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 01, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
You can just dial 9-1-1 and say it's a non-emergency call, then ask the police dispatcher how to proceed.

Don't most communities have a separate non-emergency number? Everywhere I've lived does.
Yes, but if you're traveling, how do you know?

Especially since it's not a uniform number. Several major cities have 3-1-1, but in many communities you'd have to look up the 7-digit non-emergency dispatch number.

Yup. In Fairfax County it's 703-691-2131, and you have to dial the area code due to the 571 "overlay" area code that means we have to dial ten digits for every call. Thirty years ago it seemed like most people knew of that number and the fire department routinely gave out orange stickers to put on your home phone with the info, but nowadays when I've heard the police mention that number at community meetings people have been surprised to learn it exists. I think the orange stickers were dropped around the time when phones with the capability to store numbers became available. Thirty years ago people still rented their phones from the phone company and a lot of people had rotary phones.
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Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?

I do seem to recall Briley Parkway in Nashville doing this too.

Brandon

Illinois does have them on the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway, albeit without exit numbers.



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Quote from: golden eagle on June 05, 2012, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 26, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Kinda off the subject a bit...is there any state that sign mile markers at the rate Missouri does, doing it ever .2 of a mile?

I do seem to recall Briley Parkway in Nashville doing this too.

But Tennessee doesn't sign them in rural areas like Missouri does.
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The Taconic State Parkway  in NYS now has them in Dutchess County every tenth of a mile to conform to MUTCD's new practice.  There is even a little TSP shield inside the whole mile posts.
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