Roads that have Old in its name, but no newer name

[DaBigE]

Old Sauk Rd and Old Middleton Rd in Madison, WI have no "new" replacements.

Conversely, there is a stretch of University Ave in Madison that is [somewhat] commonly referred to as "Old University Ave", even through the expressway that partially "replaced" it/bypasses it is called Campus Dr. No street signs bear the "Old" prefix, but that doesn't stop some residents, newspapers, and a property development company from using it.

[on_wisconsin]

Old Sauk Rd and Old Middleton Rd in Madison, WI have no "new" replacements.

Conversely, there is a stretch of University Ave in Madison that is [somewhat] commonly referred to as "Old University Ave", even through the expressway that partially "replaced" it/bypasses it is called Campus Dr. No street signs bear the "Old" prefix, but that doesn't stop some residents, newspapers, and a property development company from using it.

Metro also refers to it as 'Old' University Ave.

[NE2]

holy crap guys I saw a sign that said old US federal route 666 and there was no new US federal route 666

[sandwalk]

holy crap guys I saw a sign that said old US federal route 666 and there was no new US federal route 666

Now that's a cryin' shame!

[Compulov]

I think this grows out of a historic practice of referring to roads descriptively, which for much of their history was the only available method. A lot of roads never had formal names until relatively recently, and it's questionable whether some do even still.

I wonder if that's how CR-535 ended up being Old Trenton Rd through East and West Windsor (and I think a small bit of Hamilton and Cranbury) in NJ. If you look at the map, the road certainly does take you to Trenton, though it's definitely not the best way to go nowadays (assuming you'd even *want* to go to Trenton). I lived in the area for a few years, and I never did find a New Trenton (or just Trenton) Road.

[huskeroadgeek]

There's an Old Cheney Road in Lincoln, Nebraska, but the road does not go to the town of Cheney, and there is no New Cheney Road.

I was surprised to see somebody else mention this one-it's obviously the first one that came to my mind. I think under a previous alignment it may have curved to go into the town of Cheney maybe along the current alignment of NE 2. I know I have seen an old Lincoln map from the mid 1960s that designated it as "Cheney Rd." I don't think it was an error-I think the "Old" was added sometime after then. Every map I have seen from about the late 1960s has it as "Old Cheney Rd.".

[cpzilliacus]

I noticed that in Orlando, FL you have Old Winter Garden Road, but no New Winter Garden Road or even a Winter Garden Road.
In Kissimmee, FL you have Old Vineland Road, but no new or something modern.

Both of these are old roads of newer alignments, FL 50 and US 192, but if they left the old names as is, it would not create confusion.

Old Cheney Highway in East Orlando, has a Cheney Highway in Brevard County several miles to the east, but once part of the same.

Montgomery County, Maryland has Md. 187, Old Georgetown Road, even though there's no New Georgetown Road nearby.  Four or five Capital Beltway interchanges away from Md. 187 we find Va. 193, Georgetown Pike which (in terms of alignment) is "older" than Md. 187, but is not called Old Georgetown Pike.

[Urban Prairie Schooner]

So I think you are correct and it is relatively recently when it was determined that roads must have formal names and were signed as such. Probably the 1980s, or later in some parts.

A lot of this has to do with establishment of Enhanced 911 (E-911) systems. Especially in rural counties/parishes (at least in my own state), the communications districts often take the lead in standardizing street naming and addressing systems - essentially, so that first responders can more easily locate people in emergencies.

[nexus73]

If there's an Old English 800 highway, I can just about promise you there's no New English 800...LOL!

Rick

[JustDrive]

The Old Road in Santa Clarita, CA (and surrounding communities)
There isn't anything called "The New Road" or anything, oddly enough anyone who doesn't know the history about the street, it use to be called San Fernando Rd which continues on south after Sierra Hwy...
Not sure why they didnt just keep it SF Road

What is now called "Newhall Avenue" in Santa Clarita was once known as San Fernando Road.  The Old Road refers to Old U.S. Route 99.

[txstateends]

Tyler, TX has several of these:
Old Bullard Road, Old Noonday Road, Old Jacksonville Highway, Old Longview Road, Old Kilgore Road, Old Henderson Highway, Old Omen Road.

None of these have a newer version of themselves, but most have a more modern replacement:
-- Old Bullard has since had 2 newer ways to get to Bullard, FM 2493 (historic US 69) and the current US 69 (which runs closer to Old Bullard Road than FM 2493 does).
-- Old Noonday has a much straighter way to get to Noonday, TX 155 south (also labeled Frankston Highway).
-- Old Jacksonville is now FM 2493 and was US 69's previous routing (which did go to Jacksonville) before the current US 69 alignment was built.
-- Old Longview was apparently an old way to get to Longview, but now you can take TX 31, US 271, or I-20 to get there.
-- Old Kilgore is now signed as FM 850/FM 2767, while TX 31 is the more modern, straighter way to get to Kilgore now.
-- Old Henderson has since been replaced with a straighter way to Henderson, along TX 64 east.
-- Old Omen was the way to the town of Omen, but its path was cut by the construction of Lake Tyler and Lake Tyler East; now a county road that turns off TX 64 east can access Omen to the east of Lake Tyler East (but has no "Omen" label).

Meanwhile, the other "old" roads -- Old Chandler Road, Old Dallas Highway, and Old Troup Highway have newer (none named "New") alignments:
Chandler Highway (TX 31 west), Dallas Highway (unofficial name for TX 64 west), Troup Highway (TX 110 south)

[bulkyorled]

The Old Road in Santa Clarita, CA (and surrounding communities)
There isn't anything called "The New Road" or anything, oddly enough anyone who doesn't know the history about the street, it use to be called San Fernando Rd which continues on south after Sierra Hwy...
Not sure why they didnt just keep it SF Road

What is now called "Newhall Avenue" in Santa Clarita was once known as San Fernando Road.  The Old Road refers to Old U.S. Route 99.

The Old Road refers to Old US 99 & San Fernando Rd.
San Fernando Road which was changed into Newhall, Main and Railroad, east of SF Road/The Old Rd, was unrelated. The "other" SF Road now Newhall and etc IS in Santa Clarita but The Old Road doesn't technically enter Santa Clarita city boundaries, it just straddles the line on the Stevenson Ranch side

[Takumi]

I know of several Old Stage Roads that are so named due to their (alleged) once being stagecoach routes.

[jwolfer]

Jacksonville Florida has a few "Old" roads.  Usually an old alignment of the road.  (Old Baymeadows Rd, Old Roosevelt Blvd) 

Some are the Old Road to Places.  Old Middleburg Rd used to turn into a dirt trail through the woods to Middleburg. During WWII the government build a road to Camp Blanding from Jacksonville and since it was paved it became the road to Middleburg but it was called Camp Blanding Rd and that evolved into Blanding Blvd( SR 21). 

St Augustine Rd is an old alignment of US 1 that exists in 2 parts on the southside of Jacksonville.  When I-295 was built the exit to St Augustine Rd has Old St Augustine Rd on the BGS ( to discourage people from using it as a route to St Augustine) but it was never officially called Old SA Rd.  Now the northern section of the Rd is called St Augustine Rd and the southern section is Old St Augustine Rd.  When a new exit was built off of I-95 to St Augustine Rd the BGS said "St Augustine Rd" but it was changed to Old St Augustine Rd a few months later to avoid confusion.  The old sort of implies a decrepit forgotten section of road but Old St Augustine Rd is all 4-5 lanes w a big exit at 95 and a SPUI at 295.

We do have a "New" Road here.  The Kings Road was built when Florida was a British Possession from GA to New Smyrna Beach.  It crossed teh St JOhns River where downtown Jacksonville is now.  In north Jacksonville "Kings Road" splits into "Old Kings Rd" and "New Kings Rd"  In S Jax there is and Old Kings Rd S which is essentailly the "Older" St Augustine Rd.  ( There is an Old Kings Rd in Flagler County which was until a few years ago a dirt road with and overpass over I-95 just south of exit 298( US 1) its paved now)

Part of Old Kings Rd in South Jacksonville was realigned and the bypassed section is called "Historic Kings Rd"

[CentralCAroadgeek]

I know of several Old Stage Roads that are so named due to their (alleged) once being stagecoach routes.

There's one here in Salinas. I've always wondered what it meant.

[formulanone]

If there's an Old English 800 highway, I can just about promise you there's no New English 800...LOL!

Rick

It was changed to Colt 45 in the Malt Liquor Renumbering Scheme in '40.

[jwolfer]

If there's an Old English 800 highway, I can just about promise you there's no New English 800...LOL!

Rick

It was changed to Colt 45 in the Malt Liquor Renumbering Scheme in '40.

That't the road to St Ides isn't it?

[Mr_Northside]

Which was bypassed by the Schlitz Freeway (with it's Blue Bull northbound lanes, and Red Bull southbound lanes).

[empirestate]

Old Sauk Rd and Old Middleton Rd in Madison, WI have no "new" replacements.

Conversely, there is a stretch of University Ave in Madison that is [somewhat] commonly referred to as "Old University Ave", even through the expressway that partially "replaced" it/bypasses it is called Campus Dr. No street signs bear the "Old" prefix, but that doesn't stop some residents, newspapers, and a property development company from using it.

Meanwhile, in Milwaukee there is Old World 3rd Street, but no World 3rd Street.

[apeman33]

Garden City, Kansas, has an Old Lovers Lane but not a New Lovers Lane ... or a Young Lovers Lane. The road was known as "Lovers Lane" because that's where the younguns hung out in the 50s and 60s but it was originally an extension of Fulton St. Then later, Fulton St. was changed to the current alignment of Business U.S. 50. So it would have made more sense for this to have been called "Old Fulton St."

[roadman65]

Old Dixie Highway has no new Dixie Highway in the states between Detroit and Miami.  In Orlando, the Old Dixie Highway became Orange Avenue and a few years ago Osceola County re-named their section of Old Dixie Highway  north of Osceola Parkway to match Orange County to Orange Avenue.  Between Orlando and Kissimmee, ODH was the original US 17, 92, and 441 before 1945 when the Orange Blossom Trail was built.

[HighwayMaster]

Old Hickory Boulevard that used to loop around Nashville.

[Revive 755]

There is an "Old State Road" around Nimbywood - sorry, Wildwood, Missouri.  While technically there is no current "State Road," I think the Old State part is referring to the road once being a state highway.  However, looking through the old maps on MoDOT's site, I'm not seeing anything in the area that matches the alignment; the first route that appears (a Route B on the 1933 map) appears to follow the alignment MO 109 uses today.

[Roadsguy]

A short old alignment of PA 183 east of Mount Pleasant is called Old State Road, but new 183 is called Bernville Road. (Of course, there's still an old/regular set, so it's not really an Old This without a New That.)

When I was little, I thought that an old alignment had to be called Old This, and the new alignment called either New This or just This. The above example used to confuse me.

[roadman65]

I was once reading that Old York Road in Philadelphia and Bucks County was a stage route in historic times.  It was the route the stage took between New York and Philadelphia.  It followed   the current PA 611, PA 263, US 202,  and PA 179  all northward and across the Delaware at New Hope.

In New Jersey there are parts of it still called it as it is for parts of PA 611 on CR 514, CR 567, and un-numbered roads in Somerset and Hunterdon Counties.  The town of Centerville in Readington Township, NJ was the mid point for stage travelers en route from New York to Philadelphia.   That is how it received its name and once had an inn there for the passengers to stay overnight as it once took two days to do what we now can do in just over an hour via the NJ Turnpike.

Of course we all know the NJ Turnpike is not called a New New York Road or even US 1 or the Lincoln Highway which is the first cross country auto route before route numbers came into play.