Highways that cross state lines and change dramatically?

Started by Roadster, March 26, 2015, 03:02:45 PM

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Zzonkmiles

Quote from: roadman65 on April 02, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
How about I-83 from MD to PA?  In MD its normal grassy median, but cross the border into PA as in PA its got a Jersey Barrier which was originally either a box girder guard rail or a two sided W guard rail.  I say that is because my first time on I-83 south of Harrisburg was in 1997 after PennDOT started eliminating the guardrail dividers on freeways, so I have no knowledge which of PennDOT's divider method was used previously.

Ooooohh, I-83 is a good one. Nice catch. I agree totally. I-83 in MD is a very nice road--the road is in good condition, there is a grassy median like you said, and there are rumble strips on the sides. Cross over into PA and the road is quite dangerous. The Jersey barrier is so close to the inner lanes that you could easily bump into it if you're not careful.

How about I-95 from GA to FL? The quality of the road isn't drastically different, but Florida does have emergency call boxes at every mile marker. And because they used to have sequential exit numbering before switching to mileage-based numbering, the signs often have a new exit number with a small sign saying "OLD ##" next to them. I always found that distracting with the two sets of exit numbers. But the call boxes are pretty cool.


jwolfer

Quote from: Zzonkmiles on April 03, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 02, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
How about I-83 from MD to PA?  In MD its normal grassy median, but cross the border into PA as in PA its got a Jersey Barrier which was originally either a box girder guard rail or a two sided W guard rail.  I say that is because my first time on I-83 south of Harrisburg was in 1997 after PennDOT started eliminating the guardrail dividers on freeways, so I have no knowledge which of PennDOT's divider method was used previously.

Ooooohh, I-83 is a good one. Nice catch. I agree totally. I-83 in MD is a very nice road--the road is in good condition, there is a grassy median like you said, and there are rumble strips on the sides. Cross over into PA and the road is quite dangerous. The Jersey barrier is so close to the inner lanes that you could easily bump into it if you're not careful.

How about I-95 from GA to FL? The quality of the road isn't drastically different, but Florida does have emergency call boxes at every mile marker. And because they used to have sequential exit numbering before switching to mileage-based numbering, the signs often have a new exit number with a small sign saying "OLD ##" next to them. I always found that distracting with the two sets of exit numbers. But the call boxes are pretty cool.
Call boxes are gone now. The old exit tabs have been removed for the most part

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Pete from Boston

I-95 into New York from Connecticut goes from relatively open asphalt lanes to a tight, constrained corridor of concrete pavement (which I see today is already being milled for topping after 15 years).

Roadster

WOW!   :confused:   I know that it's a picture but looking at it, it's hard to believe that this actually really does exist?


Quote from: Kniwt on March 30, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Kansas Turnpike? :)



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Quote from: Roadster on April 07, 2015, 12:04:35 PM
WOW!   :confused:   I know that it's a picture but looking at it, it's hard to believe that this actually really does exist?
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Quote from: Roadster on April 07, 2015, 12:04:35 PMWOW!   :confused:   I know that it's a picture but looking at it, it's hard to believe that this actually really does exist?

It has been gone since 1960-61, when the connecting segment in Oklahoma was finished (construction began 1959).
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OCGuy81

I don't live on the east coast, but do any of you out there find that traveling between states that have turnpikes, or high amounts of toll roads, that when you get to a freeway there is a change in the road at all?  Perhaps just better traffic flow overall leaving the toll road behind?

The only real instance I can think of was driving north from Chicago when 94 crosses into Wisconsin and ceases being the Tri State Tollway.  It seemed to move a lot better up until I hit Milwaukee.

bzakharin

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 07, 2015, 04:55:00 PM
I don't live on the east coast, but do any of you out there find that traveling between states that have turnpikes, or high amounts of toll roads, that when you get to a freeway there is a change in the road at all?  Perhaps just better traffic flow overall leaving the toll road behind?

The only real instance I can think of was driving north from Chicago when 94 crosses into Wisconsin and ceases being the Tri State Tollway.  It seemed to move a lot better up until I hit Milwaukee.

Not in New Jersey, at least. Where the Turnpike and I-295 parallel each other closely, the latter tends to be more congested. As for state lines, I-95 north of the Turnpike is quite congested approaching NYC, and even worse in NYC. At the other end there is essentially no free roadway as you cross the toll Delaware Memorial Bridge and then reach the Delaware Turnpike.  The Atlantic City Expressway becomes free NJ-42, then I-76, then enters Philadelphia and is also progressively more congested once it becomes free. The other toll roads remain tolled as you leave New Jersey or just end (e.g. I-78).

Aside from I-95, toll roads in NJ don't really become free at state lines

jwags

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 07, 2015, 04:55:00 PM
I don't live on the east coast, but do any of you out there find that traveling between states that have turnpikes, or high amounts of toll roads, that when you get to a freeway there is a change in the road at all?  Perhaps just better traffic flow overall leaving the toll road behind?

The only real instance I can think of was driving north from Chicago when 94 crosses into Wisconsin and ceases being the Tri State Tollway.  It seemed to move a lot better up until I hit Milwaukee.

I've driven up the tri-state into Wisconsin and while this statement wouldn't seem to make any sense it is very true. Almost immediately after crossing the state line traffic clears up considerably and moves at a better pace.

Pink Jazz

Another example: When crossing the Hoover Dam Bypass Bridge, the Arizona side has painted lane stripes, while the Nevada side uses Botts' Dots.

kphoger

Quote from: Pink Jazz on April 08, 2015, 06:47:17 PM
Another example: When crossing the Hoover Dam Bypass Bridge, the Arizona side has painted lane stripes, while the Nevada side uses Botts' Dots.

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Crossing from any other state into Pennsylvania on an interstate is always a dramatic change.  The right-of-way always narrows down.  I-90 Ohio to Pa., I-81 N.Y. to Pa. are good examples of this.

The Nature Boy

Quote from: upstatenyroads on April 17, 2015, 11:45:25 PM
Crossing from any other state into Pennsylvania on an interstate is always a dramatic change.  The right-of-way always narrows down.  I-90 Ohio to Pa., I-81 N.Y. to Pa. are good examples of this.

The exception of course being the Southern Tier Expressway. ;)

CNGL-Leudimin

One example from overseas (and because of that it doesn't involve state lines) I encountered last Sunday: I was driving on CL-116 in Castile and Leon, Spain, which is a good road until it crosses into Aragon (becoming A-116 upon doing so) where it becomes bumpy. Fortunately it is only 2.5 miles until one hits A-2 expressway.

By the way, I was like :-o when I first saw that Kansas Turnpike photo.
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A good example I remmeber is I-10 in New Mexico and Texas, were the New Mexico side is 6 lanes highway (better pavement, markings and security) while in Texas section its an old bumpy highway of 4 lanes.

JakeFromNewEngland

What about I-91 between CT and MA? On the CT side it's 6 lanes wide with full shoulders. Once you cross into MA, it goes down to 4 lanes a few miles up and that usually causes backups into CT. I-91 through Springfield is also a very antiquated road compared to I-91 through Hartford. That should change in the future though.

thenetwork

Quote from: The Nature Boy on April 18, 2015, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on April 17, 2015, 11:45:25 PM
Crossing from any other state into Pennsylvania on an interstate is always a dramatic change.  The right-of-way always narrows down.  I-90 Ohio to Pa., I-81 N.Y. to Pa. are good examples of this.

The exception of course being the Southern Tier Expressway. ;)

But I remember back in the day when PA/NY-17 was first opened -- The PA side was 4-lane divided, but as soon as you crossed into NY, it became a Super-2 and stayed that way to darn near Lake Chautauqua.  That was my first Super-2 experience.

cl94

Quote from: thenetwork on April 23, 2015, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on April 18, 2015, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on April 17, 2015, 11:45:25 PM
Crossing from any other state into Pennsylvania on an interstate is always a dramatic change.  The right-of-way always narrows down.  I-90 Ohio to Pa., I-81 N.Y. to Pa. are good examples of this.

The exception of course being the Southern Tier Expressway. ;)

But I remember back in the day when PA/NY-17 was first opened -- The PA side was 4-lane divided, but as soon as you crossed into NY, it became a Super-2 and stayed that way to darn near Lake Chautauqua.  That was my first Super-2 experience.

Until very recently, the concrete on the EB roadway on the New York side was miserable as well
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