States without any kind of toll road or toll bridge

Started by iBallasticwolf2, May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM

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iBallasticwolf2

I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.
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hbelkins

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

Are there any toll facilities in Tennessee?
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iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2015, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

Are there any toll facilities in Tennessee?

Now that I think about it there are none I can think of of the top of my head, neither for Alabama or Missisipi. Also I can't think of any toll facilities in Georgia besides HOT lanes on I-85 and the future I-675 and I-75 express lanes
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TheHighwayMan3561

How specific are you looking to be? Do high-occupancy toll lanes on an otherwise free road disqualify the road?

Wisconsin I believe does not have any tolled facilities of any kind.

Pink Jazz

No toll roads or bridges in Arizona nor New Mexico either.  There was once a proposal to build the proposed Loop 202 South Mountain Freeway in the Phoenix area as a toll road, but that never happened.  The current plans for the South Mountain Freeway (pending a lawsuit filed by PARC and other left-wing NIMBY organizations) do not include any tolls.

oscar

Hawaii has neither.

Alaska has neither, but does have a toll tunnel, a private bridge into McCarthy restricted to and paid for by local residents (visitors must walk across the river on a footbridge), as well as many un-free ferries.

Many of the western states have no toll facilities, including at least (IIRC) Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming (if you don't count national park entrance gates on various US routes), Nevada, North and South Dakota, maybe Nebraska. Utah (mainly HO/T lanes) and Colorado are outliers in the largely toll-free Mountain time zone.

I think Oregon's only toll facilities are toll bridges crossing into Washington.
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iBallasticwolf2

Well that is an interesting point whether HOT or express lane facilities count. I would say no, only tolled roads and bridges. No other types
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Brandon

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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 20, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
How specific are you looking to be? Do high-occupancy toll lanes on an otherwise free road disqualify the road?

Wisconsin I believe does not have any tolled facilities of any kind.

I would think it to be any toll facility of any kind.

For example, Michigan is disqualified due to having 4 fixed toll facilities: Mackinac Bridge, Blue Water Bridge, Ambassador Bridge, and Detroit-Windsor Tunnel, even though 3 of these facilities are shared with Ontario; as well as a few ferries across the Saint Clair River.

I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

Iowa is disqualified due to the Fort Madison Toll Bridge (IA-IL over the Mississippi River) and the Bellevue Bridge (IA-NE over the Missouri River).

Then, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio are disqualified for the obvious reasons (ISTHA, ITR, and OTIC).
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Brandon

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

1. The new I-265 Bridge will be toll.
2. The Anderson Ferry across the Ohio River near Cincinnati.
3. The Dorena-Hickman Ferry across the Mississippi River.
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froggie

If "toll roads and bridges" is the only criteria, then you can rule out Connecticut, Vermont, Minnesota, and Mississippi as well.

iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

1. The new I-265 Bridge will be toll.
2. The Anderson Ferry across the Ohio River near Cincinnati.
3. The Dorena-Hickman Ferry across the Mississippi River.

Well I didn't think about ferries, but I didn't count roadways still under contrusction
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oscar

Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

Don't forget the Lake Express ferry between Muskegon MI and Milwaukee, which is privately operated like (IIRC) the Badger.
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Big John

Quote from: oscar on May 20, 2015, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

Don't forget the Lake Express ferry between Muskegon MI and Milwaukee, which is privately operated like (IIRC) the Badger.
And the ferry Connecting Washington Island to the rest of Door County. http://www.wisferry.com/washington-island-ferry

Duke87

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2015, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

Are there any toll facilities in Tennessee?

Now that I think about it there are none I can think of of the top of my head, neither for Alabama or Missisipi.

Alabama has several privately owned and operated toll roads that are small in scope and serve predominantly local traffic. One example.
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Quote from: froggie on May 20, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
If "toll roads and bridges" is the only criteria, then you can rule out Connecticut, Vermont, Minnesota, and Mississippi as well.

If ferries are included, of course, at least Vermont and Connecticut are off the list.

kkt

For a few years, Washington had no toll roads or bridges within its borders -- toll bridges to Oregon and ferries.

roadfro

Nevada has no tolled roadway facilities of any kind. Actually, toll roads are not currently allowed by state law.

There was an effort to change this a couple legislative sessions ago. A demonstration project was conceived that NDOT could build the US 93 (future I-11) Boulder City Bypass as a toll road. Not sure what the discussion was on that, but the law didn't get changed, and that project is moving forward with other funding measures.
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mgk920

Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 20, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
How specific are you looking to be? Do high-occupancy toll lanes on an otherwise free road disqualify the road?

Wisconsin I believe does not have any tolled facilities of any kind.

I would think it to be any toll facility of any kind.

I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

The SS Badger (Manitowoc-Ludington), the Lake Express (Milwaukee-Muskegon), the Washington Island ferry and the Madeline Island ferries all charge tolls.

Mike

DandyDan

Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
Iowa is disqualified due to the Fort Madison Toll Bridge (IA-IL over the Mississippi River) and the Bellevue Bridge (IA-NE over the Missouri River).

There's also the Plattsmouth toll bridge as well.  Iowa and Wisconsin share the ferry between Cassville, WI and Millville, IA.

I can't think of anything for North or South Dakota that's a toll.
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Zzonkmiles

South Carolina comes close. I know I-185 is tolled, but almost nobody uses it.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
Well that is an interesting point whether HOT or express lane facilities count. I would say no, only tolled roads and bridges. No other types

?? 

I realize you can make up whatever criteria you want, but...

HOT/Express lanes are tolled roads.  The toll may not apply to everyone, but it's still a toll.

Mapmikey

Quote from: Zzonkmiles on May 21, 2015, 07:03:39 AM
South Carolina comes close. I know I-185 is tolled, but almost nobody uses it.

Also US 278 Bypass on Hilton Head Island...

Mike

dgolub

Connecticut has had no tolls for several decades at this point, unless you count the old tollbooth from the Merritt Parkway (CT 15) that's preserved in a park in Stratford.  No one's paying any tolls there, though, so I wouldn't count it.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
I was wondering what states in the US don't have any toll roads or toll bridges. The only one I know would be Kentucky.

That will be changing soon.
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formulanone

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
Now that I think about it there are none I can think of of the top of my head, neither for Alabama...

Not quite, there's the Tuscaloosa By-Pass, and the Montgomery "Expressway".

Haven't driven on either one yet, just haven't needed to.



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