"OLD" Highway Placard for Obsolete Routes

[HazMatt]

This is as close as we get in North Carolina I'm afraid....

There's http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nc/brp/n421.jpg, but I doubt the DOT put that up as it's on the BRP.

[vdeane]

Broken image links, Jim. 

Odd..  They were OK this morning, but broken for me now also.  I'll see if I can figure out what changed.

Edit: No luck so far, will have to check it out again later.

Looks like your server started blocking hotlinking.

[Jim]

Broken image links, Jim. 

Odd..  They were OK this morning, but broken for me now also.  I'll see if I can figure out what changed.

Edit: No luck so far, will have to check it out again later.

Looks like your server started blocking hotlinking.

That's what's happening, but it's weird that it's been configured to block hotlinks for years, but the aaroads.com exception stopped working some time today.  For now, I've disabled the hotlink block entirely (or at least I think so) but it's still refusing to serve images with aaroads.com as the referer...  Very strange.

[Mapmikey]

In fact Virginia started using the OLD banner in the 1950s...



Mike

[roadfro]

Is there any practical difference between an "OLD" highway and a "BUSINESS" routing?  From what I know, business routings are generally old routings of the highway and are no longer under state maintenance.  Many business routings don't even have that many businesses on it.

It's true that a "Business" route is often the former routing of the mainline highway, but this is not always the case.

"Old" is not a recognized special route banner in the MUTCD, or by AASHTO.

[Max Rockatansky]

Is there any practical difference between an "OLD" highway and a "BUSINESS" routing?  From what I know, business routings are generally old routings of the highway and are no longer under state maintenance.  Many business routings don't even have that many businesses on it.

It's true that a "Business" route is often the former routing of the mainline highway, but this is not always the case.

"Old" is not a recognized special route banner in the MUTCD, or by AASHTO.

And by the same token you could take pretty much any former alignment of any signed highway and call it "old" by that definition of using a business route.  Hell almost every county route in Florida would count if that was the case simply due to the fact that the majority were state highways turned back over to the counties.  Basically I was of the thinking that any former highway that had "old" in the name or had a placard would qualify for the definition of what this thread was looking for.

[The High Plains Traveler]

In addition to the OLD banner used by Minnesota, as cited above, they sometimes also post a ROUTE CHANGE guide sign on a freeway approaching the route that has been renumbered. This was done during the late 1980s when several routes were moved or renumbered in the Twin Cities area. An example of the signage would have been like:

ROUTE CHANGE
   OLD (U.S. 169)
    FOLLOW
  (COUNTY 81)

Like the OLD-bannered reassurance markers, this would stayed up for a year or so, until maps were changed and locals got used to the change.

[paulthemapguy]

The "OLD" banner looks like they stuck a label over another banner.

How recent was the decommission? Was OH-533 a major route that a lot of people used? Do people in the area still refer to the route as "533"? If so, I can see some value in this.

Ohio has so many state routes that I don't think mapping companies would generally notice if the state decommissioned one or two.  Google still shows OH-533 as a functioning route; they haven't removed it yet.  I think the sign ought to stay until mapping companies (and teh almighty Google) catch on.

[vdeane]

If they did that, the mapping companies would never catch on, and there would be no point to decommissioning the route.

[paulthemapguy]

If they did that, the mapping companies would never catch on, and there would be no point to decommissioning the route.

I meant keeping the sign with the "OLD" placard on it.  Or a sign with a clear indication that the route is no longer in effect.

[hbelkins]

OK, so you hate Walmart. That's relevant to this discussion in what way, exactly?

[SectorZ]

OK, so you hate Walmart. That's relevant to this discussion in what way, exactly?

Don't know about you, but I felt much more stupid after reading his diatribe.

[Rothman]

Heh.