Former names you use without meaning to

[roadman65]

Every once in a while I'll hear Bradley (International) Airport referred to by its old name Bradley Field.  And most people call Newark-Liberty airport just plain Newark Airport. I've heard JFK referred to as Idlewild in Goodfellas, and in Mad Men (both taking place in the '60's)

To me the Newark name Liberty will always not be referred to as such.  It has always been "Newark Airport" and it is the airport for that particular city in which we all have the tendency to call as such.

[The Nature Boy]

In my hometown (In NC), there was a Texaco gas station that became a Liberty some years ago. The locals still call it "Texaco." It's been at least 15 years since the change.

[PHLBOS]

One episode of Cheers from the mid-80s inadvertently went back to pre-1943 when it referred to Logan Airport as Boston Airport.

[D-Dey65]

New York's JFK Airport was once known as Idlewild Airport.  I haven't heard ANYONE call it that, ever.

Not even before 1963?   

Considering I was born in 1978, no.

Hey, I was born in 1965, and I've rarely heard people call it Idlewild.

I personally still refer to the Jackie Robinson Parkway as the Interboro Parkway, and the Korean War Veteran's Memorial Parkway as the Richmond Parkway. I also still call the RFK Bridge the Triborough Bridge, the Hugh L. Carey Tunnel the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, and the Ed Koch Bridge the Queensboro Bridge (not the 59th Street Bridge).

[The Nature Boy]

One episode of Cheers from the mid-80s inadvertently went back to pre-1943 when it referred to Logan Airport as Boston Airport.

Along that same thread, I'm not sure if I've ever heard anyone refer to Manchester-Boston Regional Airport as anything other than the Manchester Airport.

[BamaZeus]

New York's JFK Airport was once known as Idlewild Airport.  I haven't heard ANYONE call it that, ever.

Not even before 1963?   

Considering I was born in 1978, no.

I've heard the name Idlewild in an old movie, I'm trying to remember which one.

The Idlewild to JFK name change seems to have caught on more quickly than Reagan.  Maybe it helps to be a martyr.

I'm almost positive it's Breakfast At Tiffany's

[roadman]

In before 128.

128 is still in use.  I'm thinking of names completely replaced.

Changed thread title to better reflect that.

Actually, 128 is still a valid designation (with I-95) only between Canton and Peabody, and from Peabody to Gloucester (as 128 only).  128 between Braintree and Canton is a former designation - depsite what the Boston traffic reporters would have us believe.

[bassoon1986]

I still say Shreveport-Blanchard Hwy for LA 173 through Shreveport, instead of Hilry Huckaby III. I've heard many people still say Cooper Rd. rather than MLK in that same area.

Texas Stadium (now AT&T) and the Rangers Ballpark (now Globe Life Park) in DFW.

Nearly everyone in Alexandria, LA still uses the terms "the north circle" and "the south circle" referring to the 2 traffic circles. There is only one traffic circle today where US 71 and US 165 south meet but it is still called the south circle. The original north circle was removed I think when I-49 was constructed and US 71/ US 165 was elevated. It is now an exit to LA 1/ Bolton Ave beneath.

I wonder if older folks in Denton, TX area still say Hwy 24 rather than US 380 for the main thoroughfare. Or Hwy 99 rather than 377. I heard many people still say or refer to I-30 between Dallas and Fort Worth as the Turnpike.

[Pete from Boston]

In before 128.

128 is still in use.  I'm thinking of names completely replaced.

Changed thread title to better reflect that.

Actually, 128 is still a valid designation (with I-95) only between Canton and Peabody, and from Peabody to Gloucester (as 128 only).  128 between Braintree and Canton is a former designation - depsite what the Boston traffic reporters would have us believe.

Wait, I started this thread?  I did!

[msubulldog]

Last year my dad referred to Exxon as Esso when he was talking about some construction going on, and was using a gas station as a reference point.

[kkt]

I've heard the name Idlewild in an old movie, I'm trying to remember which one.

The Idlewild to JFK name change seems to have caught on more quickly than Reagan.  Maybe it helps to be a martyr.

I'm almost positive it's Breakfast At Tiffany's

Hmm, could be.  Sounds like a good excuse to watch Audrey do her stuff again!

[Rothman]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

[1995hoo]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

I said that very clearly in an earlier post. Reagan doesn't receive commercial international flights but has a small facility for general aviation customs. I didn't want to keep repeating myself. Maybe I forgot how hyper-literal and nitpicky some forum members are.

[SP Cook]

That same nitpicky post I have seen 1000 times on this board and dozens of travel boards.  Somebody says there are no international flight at X airport and someone always chirps in with the idea that you can fly a private plane there and they either have a customs agent or you can (at your expense) arange for one to be there.  It is nitpicky and OT when talking about commercial aviation.

[mrsman]

New York's JFK Airport was once known as Idlewild Airport.  I haven't heard ANYONE call it that, ever.

Not even before 1963?   

Considering I was born in 1978, no.

I've heard the name Idlewild in an old movie, I'm trying to remember which one.

The Idlewild to JFK name change seems to have caught on more quickly than Reagan.  Maybe it helps to be a martyr.

I'm almost positive it's Breakfast At Tiffany's

Idlewild was used in the theme song to Car 54, where are you:

There's a hold up in the Bronx,
Brooklyn's broken out in fights.
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights.
There's a scout troup short a child,
Kruschev's due at Idlewild
Car 54, Where Are You?


source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/car54whereareyoulyrics.html

[Mr. Matté]

Not a name but whenever someone says "May the force be with you," I usually blindly belt out "And also with you," leading to me also saying "Shows you when I quit the Catholic Church."

[Rothman]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

I said that very clearly in an earlier post. Reagan doesn't receive commercial international flights but has a small facility for general aviation customs. I didn't want to keep repeating myself. Maybe I forgot how hyper-literal and nitpicky some forum members are.

I'm still not seeing very much basis for the idea that the name of Washington National was "National" because it only served domestic flights.

[formulanone]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

I said that very clearly in an earlier post. Reagan doesn't receive commercial international flights but has a small facility for general aviation customs. I didn't want to keep repeating myself. Maybe I forgot how hyper-literal and nitpicky some forum members are.

I'm still not seeing very much basis for the idea that the name of Washington National was "National" because it only served domestic flights.

Have you noticed their Major League Baseball team?

[1995hoo]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

I said that very clearly in an earlier post. Reagan doesn't receive commercial international flights but has a small facility for general aviation customs. I didn't want to keep repeating myself. Maybe I forgot how hyper-literal and nitpicky some forum members are.

I'm still not seeing very much basis for the idea that the name of Washington National was "National" because it only served domestic flights.

I haven't seen you offer anything to disprove it, either. How about we just drop it.

[Rothman]

Makes me wonder when National Airport started accepting international flights, then.  Seems to me that, by 1995hoo's logic, every airport that only accepted domestic flights would have been called a "national" airport.

Technically they're not international flights. The only flights into Reagan from foreign cities (such as Nassau, Montreal, or Toronto, among others) are from cities where the passengers pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in the other city before boarding the flight. The flight is then treated, for legal purposes, as a domestic flight. Flights to Reagan are not, of course, the only ones that have this. I know there are preclearance facilities in Vancouver and in Shannon, to name two cities with no service to DCA. Don't know about elsewhere.

Incorrect.  There are U.S. Customs facilities at Reagan that handle corporate traffic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport

I said that very clearly in an earlier post. Reagan doesn't receive commercial international flights but has a small facility for general aviation customs. I didn't want to keep repeating myself. Maybe I forgot how hyper-literal and nitpicky some forum members are.

I'm still not seeing very much basis for the idea that the name of Washington National was "National" because it only served domestic flights.

I haven't seen you offer anything to disprove it, either. How about we just drop it.

Nah.  Dropping it isn't very much fun.

You haven't offered anything to support it and you were the one to make the assertion in the first place.  Anyway, just going by this little history, it seems it was more about its location rather than the types of flights that it
served:

http://www.flyreagan.com/dca/history-reagan-national-airport

[tckma]

Not a name but whenever someone says "May the force be with you," I usually blindly belt out "And also with you," leading to me also saying "Shows you when I quit the Catholic Church."

Similarly, when someone says, "Lord have mercy," I'll often blindly respond with "Christ have mercy."  Ah, church.

[vtk]

In an episode of I Love Lucy, the airport is referred to verbally as Idlewild, but when shown on-screen, the sign clearly says New York Int'l Airport. Idlewild was the name of the golf course that existed there before the airport was built, and never officially the name of the airport, right?

[kendancy66]

New York's JFK Airport was once known as Idlewild Airport.  I haven't heard ANYONE call it that, ever.

Not even before 1963?   [emoji14]oke:

There is the reference to it in Car 54 Where are you TV show theme song

[Bruce]

I will stubbornly refer to the large department store in Downtown Seattle between Pine and Stewart (and 4th and 3rd) as The Bon Marche, instead of Macy's.

[kkt]

I will stubbornly refer to the large department store in Downtown Seattle between Pine and Stewart (and 4th and 3rd) as The Bon Marche, instead of Macy's.

How do you feel about Frederick and Nelson's?