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Border-to-border state highways

Started by hbelkins, May 31, 2016, 02:17:27 PM

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hbelkins

Not necessarily multi-state highways, but state highways that run from one state border to another.

Example -- WV 9. Enters the state from Maryland as MD 51 and exits the state as VA 9.

Honorable mention -- KY 80. Begins at the Mississippi River a stone's throw from the Missouri state line, and exits the state as VA 80.
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kphoger

We can't have this topic without mentioning OK-3 at 615 miles.


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Jim

My first thought was that this has to be a pretty big list, so rather than listing a few examples I could come up with, I decided to run a search through the Travel Mapping data for routes in state highway systems that have first and last waypoints of the form "XX/XX", which is what we would normally use to denote state boundaries.  Here's what I got.  Note that it includes highways that border Canada where the province postal abbreviation was used, and excludes anything that uses a non-standard border waypoint label.

az.az095bul.wpt CA/AZ to AZ/NV
ca.ca266.wpt NV/CA to CA/NV
co.wy070.wpt WY/CO to CO/WY
ct.ct041.wpt NY/CT to CT/MA
ct.ny120agre.wpt NY/CT to CT/NY
ct.ny120ariv.wpt NY/CT to CT/NY
de.de054del.wpt MD/DE to DE/MD
fl.fl002oke.wpt GA/FL to FL/GA
ga.ga025.wpt FL/GA to GA/SC
ga.ga094stg.wpt FL/GA to GA/FL
ga.ga301.wpt AL/GA to GA/AL
ia.ia009.wpt SD/IA to IA/WI
ia.ia027.wpt MO/IA to IA/MN
ia.ia092.wpt NE/IA to IA/IL
ia.ia165.wpt NE/IA to IA/NE
id.mt043.wpt MT/ID to ID/MT
il.il009.wpt IA/IL to IL/IN
in.in028.wpt IL/IN to IN/OH
in.in032.wpt IL/IN to IN/OH
ks.ks015.wpt OK/KS to KS/NE
ks.ks025.wpt OK/KS to KS/NE
ks.ks099.wpt OK/KS to KS/NE
ma.ma008.wpt CT/MA to MA/VT
ma.ma010.wpt CT/MA to MA/VT
ma.ma012.wpt CT/MA to MA/NH
ma.ma031.wpt CT/MA to MA/NH
ma.ma032.wpt CT/MA to MA/NH
ma.ma114asee.wpt RI/MA to MA/RI
md.md054whi.wpt DE/MD to MD/DE
md.md896.wpt DE/MD to MD/PA
me.me006.wpt QC/ME to ME/NB
me.me009.wpt NH/ME to ME/NB
me.me113fry.wpt NH/ME to ME/NH
me.nh153.wpt NH/ME to ME/NH
mn.mn060.wpt IA/MN to MN/WI
mo.mo005.wpt AR/MO to MO/IA
mo.mo051.wpt AR/MO to MO/IL
mt.mt200.wpt ID/MT to MT/ND
nc.nc049.wpt SC/NC to NC/VA
nd.nd001.wpt SD/ND to ND/MB
nd.nd003.wpt SD/ND to ND/MB
nd.nd005.wpt MT/ND to ND/MN
nd.nd018.wpt SD/ND to ND/MB
nd.nd032.wpt SD/ND to ND/MB
nd.nd1804.wpt SD/ND to MT/ND
nd.nd200.wpt MT/ND to ND/MN
ne.ne014.wpt KS/NE to NE/SD
ne.ne015.wpt KS/NE to NE/SD
ne.ne061.wpt KS/NE to NE/SD
ne.ne071.wpt CO/NE to NE/SD
ne.ne092.wpt WY/NE to NE/IA
nh.me113cha.wpt ME/NH to NH/ME
nh.me113con.wpt ME/NH to NH/ME
nh.nh011.wpt VT/NH to NH/ME
nh.nh012.wpt MA/NH to NH/VT
nh.nh025.wpt VT/NH to NH/ME
nh.nh026.wpt VT/NH to NH/ME
nh.nh119.wpt VT/NH to NH/MA
nh.nh123.wpt MA/NH to NH/VT
nj.nj094.wpt PA/NJ to NJ/NY
nm.nm028can.wpt NM/TX to TX/NM
ny.ny007.wpt PA/NY to NY/VT
ny.ny017.wpt PA/NY to NY/PA
ny.ny017bin.wpt PA/NY to NY/NJ
ny.ny120apur.wpt CT/NY to NY/CT
ny.ny426.wpt PA/NY to NY/PA
ny.ny440.wpt NJ/NY to NY/NJ
ok.ok009.wpt TX/OK to OK/AR
ok.ok023.wpt TX/OK to OK/KS
ok.ok051.wpt TX/OK to OK/AR
ok.ok099.wpt TX/OK to OK/KS
ok.ok136.wpt TX/OK to OK/KS
pa.ny017swa.wpt NY/PA to PA/NY
ri.ri138.wpt CT/RI to RI/MA
sc.sc028.wpt GA/SC to SC/GA
sd.sd034.wpt WY/SD to SD/MN
sd.sd037.wpt NE/SD to SD/ND
sd.sd047.wpt NE/SD to SD/ND
sd.sd073.wpt NE/SD to SD/ND
sd.sd079.wpt NE/SD to SD/ND
tx.nm028.wpt NM/TX to TX/NM
ut.ut030.wpt NV/UT to UT/WY
ut.ut043.wpt WY/UT to UT/WY
va.va016.wpt NC/VA to VA/WV
va.va102.wpt WV/VA to VA/WV
va.va102epo.wpt WV/VA to VA/WV
va.va311cro.wpt WV/VA to VA/WV
vt.vt009.wpt NY/VT to VT/NH
wi.mn023.wpt MN/WI to WI/MN
wi.wi032.wpt IL/WI to WI/MI
wv.wv007.wpt OH/WV to WV/MD
wv.wv009.wpt MD/WV to WV/VA
wv.wv102.wpt VA/WV to WV/VA
wv.wv102poc.wpt VA/WV to WV/VA
wv.wv259.wpt VA/WV to WV/VA
wv.wv311swe.wpt VA/WV to WV/VA
wy.wy089.wpt UT/WY to WY/ID
wy.wy789.wpt CO/WY to WY/MT


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jemacedo9

Hmmm...those states with water boundaries get hosed a little: 
NY 14 - PA state line to just about the Lake Ontario shore in Sodus Point
NY 19 - PA state line to the LOSP, just a stones throw from Lake Ontario
PA 18 - WV line to PA 5 just shy of Lake Erie

TheHighwayMan3561

#4
Minnesota only has one: MN 60, which runs from the Iowa line at Bigelow to the Wisconsin line at Wabasha.

MN 19 (SD border-Red Wing) and MN 210 (ND border-Duluth) come within less than five miles, but their east ends don't reach a border.

MN 43 southbound (WI border-Mabel) ends in the last town before the Iowa border as well.

GaryV

Michigan has none, because no state highway crosses the Mackinac Bridge, and we don't have any highways that "loop" to touch borders twice.

We do have some that are cross-peninsular, but they technically don't stretch completely across because they don't go from "water to water".  They end at whatever highway is closest to the lake.

Close is M-64, which goes from the Wisconsin border to nearly touch Lake Superior.  Although at its endpoint in Ontonagon it is maybe 1/2 mile from the water, it comes within just a few feet west of there.

CNGL-Leudimin

Again, since the thread explicity says 'state highways' it disqualifies CV-121 in Valencian Community in Spain, since it's not a state highway and Spain doesn't have states.
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kphoger

Quote from: GaryV on May 31, 2016, 05:01:11 PM
Michigan has none, because no state highway crosses the Mackinac Bridge, and we don't have any highways that "loop" to touch borders twice.

There are very few in Hawaii as well.

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Eth

Quote from: Jim on May 31, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
My first thought was that this has to be a pretty big list, so rather than listing a few examples I could come up with, I decided to run a search through the Travel Mapping data for routes in state highway systems that have first and last waypoints of the form "XX/XX", which is what we would normally use to denote state boundaries.  Here's what I got.  Note that it includes highways that border Canada where the province postal abbreviation was used, and excludes anything that uses a non-standard border waypoint label.


ga.ga025.wpt FL/GA to GA/SC
ga.ga094stg.wpt FL/GA to GA/FL
ga.ga301.wpt AL/GA to GA/AL


Though that's an incomplete list, it tells me that Georgia's in progress now! Hooray!  :D :clap: :love:

Back on topic, Georgia has a whole slew of these, thanks in large part to state highways remaining signed along US routes. A (non-exhaustive) listing includes, in addition to the above, 1 (FL-TN), 3 (FL-TN), 4 (FL-SC), 5 (AL-TN), 8 (AL-SC), 11 (FL-NC), 15 (FL-NC), and 28 (one segment SC-SC, another SC-NC).

kphoger

Kansas has a few north-south ones, but the one most familiar to me is KS-25.  I used to live a block away from it in Atwood, and I've driven all 238 miles of it more than once (although the very southern portion from US-56 to the Oklahoma line always seemed like a mistake because OK-136 was in such poor condition back then).

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
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tdindy88

Indiana has two state highways I know of that go border to border and both are roughly in the same region, SR 28 and SR 32. Both begin at the Illinois state line north and south of Danville, Illinois respectfully and both end in the same city, Union City on the Ohio state line, one block apart from each other. In Union City in fact, the two highways switch alignments with SR 32 crossing into Ohio one block north of SR 28 (where in the rest of the state SR 28 is north of SR 32.)

There was another highway, SR 26, but that highway was a casualty of Indiana's apparent need to decommission highways through cities, such as through Lafayette. SR 18 comes close but misses the Ohio state line by several miles and probably the only other road besides some U.S. highways that go nearly across the entire state.

Brandon

Illinois has a few, but all of then run east-west.

From north to south:

IL-64: starts at the Mississippi River (Savanna), ends at Lake Shore Drive (Lake Michigan).
IL-17: starts at the Mississippi River (New Boston), ends at the Indiana state line (Sherburnville).
IL-9: starts at the Mississippi River (Fort Madison Toll Bridge), ends at the Indiana state line (Cheneyville).

IL-15 comes close, but starts in downtown East Saint Louis.
IL-13 comes close, but starts on IL-15 east of IL-15's start.
IL-146 comes close, but ends at IL-1, just shy of the Cave-In-Rock Ferry.
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US 41

SR 200 starts near Sandpoint, Idaho and ends at US 2 south of Wawina, MN. It crosses completely across 2 states (Montana and North Dakota).

Then there is also SR 92 that begins south of Torrington, WY and ends in La Moille, IL. It also crosses completely across two states (Nebraska and Iowa).

I wonder if there are any other really long state routes that have the same number across numerous states?
Visited States and Provinces:
USA (48)= All of Lower 48
Canada (9)= AB, BC, MB, NB, NS, ON, PEI, QC, SK
Mexico (9)= BCN, BCS, CHIH, COAH, DGO, NL, SON, SIN, TAM

hotdogPi

Quote from: US 41 on May 31, 2016, 07:06:08 PM
SR 200 starts near Sandpoint, Idaho and ends at US 2 south of Wawina, MN. It crosses completely across 2 states (Montana and North Dakota).

Then there is also SR 92 that begins south of Torrington, WY and ends in La Moille, IL. It also crosses completely across two states (Nebraska and Iowa).

I wonder if there are any other really long state routes that have the same number across numerous states?

CT/MA/NH/VT 12. We've had this discussion several times.
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Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22,35,40,53,79,107,109,126,138,141,151,159,203
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 9A, 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

bulldog1979

Quote from: GaryV on May 31, 2016, 05:01:11 PM
Michigan has none, because no state highway crosses the Mackinac Bridge, and we don't have any highways that "loop" to touch borders twice.

Close is M-64, which goes from the Wisconsin border to nearly touch Lake Superior.  Although at its endpoint in Ontonagon it is maybe 1/2 mile from the water, it comes within just a few feet west of there.
In the past, M-120 connected to SR 120 in Indiana and SR 120 in Ohio.

pianocello

Quote from: Jim on May 31, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
My first thought was that this has to be a pretty big list, so rather than listing a few examples I could come up with, I decided to run a search through the Travel Mapping data for routes in state highway systems that have first and last waypoints of the form "XX/XX", which is what we would normally use to denote state boundaries.  Here's what I got.  Note that it includes highways that border Canada where the province postal abbreviation was used, and excludes anything that uses a non-standard border waypoint label.

ia.ia009.wpt SD/IA to IA/WI
ia.ia027.wpt MO/IA to IA/MN
ia.ia092.wpt NE/IA to IA/IL
ia.ia165.wpt NE/IA to IA/NE

I'm surprised that these are the only ones in Iowa. Even more surprising to me is that there are only 2 "legitimate" examples in my eyes (165 is in Carter Lake, the community west of the Missouri River near Omaha; 27 is just the number they slapped onto the Avenue of the Saints corridor, where all but 10 miles are concurrent with a different route).

There are a few more near-examples: IA-2 goes from the Missouri River to Fort Madison along the southern part of the state. Until very recently, it went across the Mississippi River to join with IL-9, but apparently the city picked up the maintenance east of the US-61 bypass.
Additionally, IA-3 ends about a mile from the Mississippi in Dubuque.
Davenport, IA -> Valparaiso, IN -> Ames, IA -> Orlando, FL -> Gainesville, FL -> Evansville, IN

mgk920

I'm also kind of surprised that that list only has two for Wisconsin (MN 23 and WI 32).  WI 64 comes oooooohhhh so close, though - running between the Minnesota state line at the Stillwater bridge (Saint Croix River) and US 41 in Marinette, WI, only a few short blocks from any of the three local bridges that crosses the Menominee River into Menominee, MI.  WI 70 is another 'close, but no cigar' one, running between the Minnesota state line near Grantsburg, WI and US 2/141 in Florence, WI, again very, very close to the Michigan state line.

Mike

US 41

Visited States and Provinces:
USA (48)= All of Lower 48
Canada (9)= AB, BC, MB, NB, NS, ON, PEI, QC, SK
Mexico (9)= BCN, BCS, CHIH, COAH, DGO, NL, SON, SIN, TAM

jwolfer

FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

There is a two-fold problem with counting Florida State Routes as border-to-border.  First; there is coastline on three of the state's borders.  Secondly almost all the major state routes are mostly just hidden designations for US or Interstate highways.  You could say that FL 8 and FL 5 reach border-to-border as well simply because I-10 and US 1 run from the state line to close an ultimate terminus point near a coast or on one.  FL 50 probably would have been coast-to-coast to example of a stand alone state route before it was truncated from Bayport to US 19. I guess FL 60 kind of counts since it ends at Clearwater Beach and A1A in Vero Beach. 

jwolfer

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

There is a two-fold problem with counting Florida State Routes as border-to-border.  First; there is coastline on three of the state's borders.  Secondly almost all the major state routes are mostly just hidden designations for US or Interstate highways.  You could say that FL 8 and FL 5 reach border-to-border as well simply because I-10 and US 1 run from the state line to close an ultimate terminus point near a coast or on one.  FL 50 probably would have been coast-to-coast to example of a stand alone state route before it was truncated from Bayport to US 19. I guess FL 60 kind of counts since it ends at Clearwater Beach and A1A in Vero Beach.
The coasts would count as a border in my mind. 60 is probably the best example of an independent SR in the state.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

There is a two-fold problem with counting Florida State Routes as border-to-border.  First; there is coastline on three of the state's borders.  Secondly almost all the major state routes are mostly just hidden designations for US or Interstate highways.  You could say that FL 8 and FL 5 reach border-to-border as well simply because I-10 and US 1 run from the state line to close an ultimate terminus point near a coast or on one.  FL 50 probably would have been coast-to-coast to example of a stand alone state route before it was truncated from Bayport to US 19. I guess FL 60 kind of counts since it ends at Clearwater Beach and A1A in Vero Beach.
The coasts would count as a border in my mind. 60 is probably the best example of an independent SR in the state.

40 would have been a nice fit too when the entire route was a State Highway.  Everything west of US 41 to Withlacoochee Bay is now county routes numbered 40.  At least the number is continues intact between both coasts, the old segment of 50 to Bayport was renumbered CR 550.

jwolfer

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

There is a two-fold problem with counting Florida State Routes as border-to-border.  First; there is coastline on three of the state's borders.  Secondly almost all the major state routes are mostly just hidden designations for US or Interstate highways.  You could say that FL 8 and FL 5 reach border-to-border as well simply because I-10 and US 1 run from the state line to close an ultimate terminus point near a coast or on one.  FL 50 probably would have been coast-to-coast to example of a stand alone state route before it was truncated from Bayport to US 19. I guess FL 60 kind of counts since it ends at Clearwater Beach and A1A in Vero Beach.
The coasts would count as a border in my mind. 60 is probably the best example of an independent SR in the state.

40 would have been a nice fit too when the entire route was a State Highway.  Everything west of US 41 to Withlacoochee Bay is now county routes numbered 40.  At least the number is continues intact between both coasts, the old segment of 50 to Bayport was renumbered CR 550.
I don't get why they made it CR 550

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 01, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 01, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
FL SR 10 goes from a couple blocks from ocean in Atlantic Beach/Neptune Beach to AL state line west of Pensacola.. although it is subservient to US 90 for most of the route

There is a two-fold problem with counting Florida State Routes as border-to-border.  First; there is coastline on three of the state's borders.  Secondly almost all the major state routes are mostly just hidden designations for US or Interstate highways.  You could say that FL 8 and FL 5 reach border-to-border as well simply because I-10 and US 1 run from the state line to close an ultimate terminus point near a coast or on one.  FL 50 probably would have been coast-to-coast to example of a stand alone state route before it was truncated from Bayport to US 19. I guess FL 60 kind of counts since it ends at Clearwater Beach and A1A in Vero Beach.
The coasts would count as a border in my mind. 60 is probably the best example of an independent SR in the state.

40 would have been a nice fit too when the entire route was a State Highway.  Everything west of US 41 to Withlacoochee Bay is now county routes numbered 40.  At least the number is continues intact between both coasts, the old segment of 50 to Bayport was renumbered CR 550.
I don't get why they made it CR 550

Seems like it's a thing in Hernando County.  They took the old section of FL 41 and made it CR 541 even though it stays CR 41 in Pasco....same deal with old FL 39 becoming FL 439.  I'm thinking they are looking at slotting the old routes into the three digit range since the Hernando portion of old FL 41 falls south of FL 50 and the old section of FL 39 is north of it.

jp the roadgeek

#24
CT has a few N/S that don't qualify because of water (8, 10, 12, 32, plus 104, 123, 124, 137 in the SW corner), but CT 41 runs from the NY border to the MA border (and beyond) in the NW hills of Litchfield County.  The only RI route that qualifies is 138 from the CT to MA border.  MA includes the same CT water border routes above (which qualify in MA), plus MA 31.  If you count silent concurrencies with US 1, MA 1A does.  NY 17 used to qualify when it ran from the PA border to the NJ border (excluding the Waverly dip).
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)