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Started by silverback1065, June 13, 2012, 10:30:51 PM

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silverback1065

Ronald Reagan Parkway is open now, a seamless link from US 36 to I-70.  Any chances this will become SR 267? 


tdindy88

I don't think so. I believe INDOT asked Hendricks County once if they wanted to swap SR 267 with Ronald Reagan Parkway and the county said no.

silverback1065

that's interesting, I would think it would be cheaper to do the switch for the county.

silverback1065

I read somewhere that US-12 could be rerouted around the dunes. 

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on January 15, 2013, 12:35:11 PM
I read somewhere that US-12 could be rerouted around the dunes. 

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/duneland/report-recommends-portion-of-u-s-be-managed-by-nps/article_aed22e3c-c5fc-5205-a23e-95b96845ccf9.html

This may be what you read.  I haven't heard anything recent about this.  I guess if this went through US 12 would get rerouted along IN 520 and then US 20.  Then it could go back up to its existing route via IN 149, or it could just stay with US 20 to where they already meet in Gary.
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theline

^^ It looks more likely that commercial truck traffic would be prohibited, rather than rerounting of the highway, if anything at all gets done.

Says INDOT spokesman Jim Pinkerton:

Quote"It's very premature at this point to speculate on what the outcome will be."

silverback1065

#106
I was looking at some of the new Google Street view of New Albany, and it appears that SR 111 has be decommissioned or rerouted, does anyone have any info on this?  Also 403, 203 and 160 I heard may be gone.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on April 09, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
I was looking at some of the new Google Street view of New Albany, and it appears that SR 111 has be decommissioned or rerouted, does anyone have any info on this?  Also 403, 203 and 160 I heard may be gone.

Yes, IN 111 north of its junction with I-64 in downtown New Albany has been decommissioned.  IN 311 and IN 403 have been entirely decommissioned.  IN 160 is still in tact west of Henryville, but I haven't been on the Henryville-Charlestown segment in a while so that may be gone too.  I have absolutely no idea about IN 203.

I originally noted the changes here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5857.msg198840#msg198840
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silverback1065

Quote from: cabiness42 on April 10, 2013, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 09, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
I was looking at some of the new Google Street view of New Albany, and it appears that SR 111 has be decommissioned or rerouted, does anyone have any info on this?  Also 403, 203 and 160 I heard may be gone.

Yes, IN 111 north of its junction with I-64 in downtown New Albany has been decommissioned.  IN 311 and IN 403 have been entirely decommissioned.  IN 160 is still in tact west of Henryville, but I haven't been on the Henryville-Charlestown segment in a while so that may be gone too.  I have absolutely no idea about IN 203.

I originally noted the changes here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5857.msg198840#msg198840

What is 111's official northern end?  I read on Wikipedia that it now ends at the Harrison/Floyd county line is that true?

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on April 10, 2013, 09:48:49 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 10, 2013, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 09, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
I was looking at some of the new Google Street view of New Albany, and it appears that SR 111 has be decommissioned or rerouted, does anyone have any info on this?  Also 403, 203 and 160 I heard may be gone.

Yes, IN 111 north of its junction with I-64 in downtown New Albany has been decommissioned.  IN 311 and IN 403 have been entirely decommissioned.  IN 160 is still in tact west of Henryville, but I haven't been on the Henryville-Charlestown segment in a while so that may be gone too.  I have absolutely no idea about IN 203.

I originally noted the changes here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5857.msg198840#msg198840

What is 111's official northern end?  I read on Wikipedia that it now ends at the Harrison/Floyd county line is that true?

I've never seen anything official from INDOT stating exactly what all of the changes are but 111 is still signed from I-64 to the Harrison/Floyd line, which is also where the Horseshoe is. 
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silverback1065

Thanks I put those changes on Google Mapmaker.  Is it me, or is Google Mapmaker the most frustrating thing to use?  It's simple to figure out, but extremely slow and hard to select everything you want. 

NWI_Irish96

I sent an e-mail to the Floyd County highway department and just got an official response:

IN 111 from New Albany south to Harrison County is still a state highway, so the Wikipedia entry is incorrect.  Only the parts of IN 111 in and north of New Albany have been turned over to the city/county.
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silverback1065

Quote from: cabiness42 on April 11, 2013, 07:38:24 AM
I sent an e-mail to the Floyd County highway department and just got an official response:

IN 111 from New Albany south to Harrison County is still a state highway, so the Wikipedia entry is incorrect.  Only the parts of IN 111 in and north of New Albany have been turned over to the city/county.

Thanks for the info!

silverback1065

Anybody else have more news on highways that have been rerouted or deleted in Indiana recently?

hbelkins

Quote from: cabiness42 on April 11, 2013, 07:38:24 AMthe Wikipedia entry is incorrect. 

Show of hands as to who's surprised.

That's what I thought. No one responded.  :-P
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Alps

Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 11, 2013, 07:38:24 AMthe Wikipedia entry is incorrect. 

Show of hands as to who's surprised.

That's what I thought. No one responded.  :-P
I was going to post something similar, but it seemed so obvious.

silverback1065

Not at all surprised wikipedia was wrong

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on April 09, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
I was looking at some of the new Google Street view of New Albany, and it appears that SR 111 has be decommissioned or rerouted, does anyone have any info on this?  Also 403, 203 and 160 I heard may be gone.

Your inclusion of 160 in this list made me curious so I ventured out over the weekend and found that 160 between Henryville and Charlestown has also been turned back over to the county.  IN 160 now ends at US 31 in Henryville.
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silverback1065

I wonder what others are gone

silverback1065


http://www.urbanindy.com/2013/05/15/study-examines-streamlining-in37-on-ne-side/?utm_source=feedly

http://www.indympo.org/Documents/US%2037%20Executive%20Summary.pdf

This is an interesting idea, it's so expensive that I don't see the city doing a similar thing to what Carmel did with SR 431.  So i guess it would likely still be SR 37 if this were to go forward.

tdindy88

It should probably stay SR 37, unless INDOT plans on truncating the rest of SR 37 from Noblesville up to Marion, which doesn't sound too likely. In that vein, any improvements like that to SR 37 would likely be an INDOT project.

silverback1065


theline

^^ About SR 933: I can't image that Mishawaka's portion of the road could be turned over to the city, while the surrounding parts, in South Bend, Roseland, Osceola, and unincorporated St. Joseph County, remain in state hands. I'm feeling that those entities are less eager to take over the road.

The mayor is certainly right about the condition of the road. It was once marked as four narrow lanes in Mishawaka's downtown and east side, but today's wider vehicles would make it a tough squeeze in many spots. Drivers now sometimes improvise side-by-side travel.

silverback1065

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Quote from: theline on July 10, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
^^ About SR 933: I can't image that Mishawaka's portion of the road could be turned over to the city, while the surrounding parts, in South Bend, Roseland, Osceola, and unincorporated St. Joseph County, remain in state hands. I'm feeling that those entities are less eager to take over the road.

The mayor is certainly right about the condition of the road. It was once marked as four narrow lanes in Mishawaka's downtown and east side, but today's wider vehicles would make it a tough squeeze in many spots. Drivers now sometimes improvise side-by-side travel.

I like how the INDOT guy basically said that it's not like we don't care about this road, from what I've read any Indiana highway with a 9 in it is considered unimportant, which explains the awful condition of the road.  See SR 912, and SR 930 as examples, also soon to be SR 931.   I don't understand why that highway (933) just ended at the county line though, why not at SR 331? I guess they couldn't work a deal at the time either.  On an unrelated note, I hear parts of SR 25, and 55 might be decommissioned around US 136.  As for an update to previous post, SR 43 seems like it will end at the 65 interchange. 

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on July 10, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
Quote from: theline on July 10, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
^^ About SR 933: I can't image that Mishawaka's portion of the road could be turned over to the city, while the surrounding parts, in South Bend, Roseland, Osceola, and unincorporated St. Joseph County, remain in state hands. I'm feeling that those entities are less eager to take over the road.

The mayor is certainly right about the condition of the road. It was once marked as four narrow lanes in Mishawaka's downtown and east side, but today's wider vehicles would make it a tough squeeze in many spots. Drivers now sometimes improvise side-by-side travel.

I like how the INDOT guy basically said that it's not like we don't care about this road, from what I've read any Indiana highway with a 9 in it is considered unimportant, which explains the awful condition of the road.  See SR 912, and SR 930 as examples, also soon to be SR 931.   I don't understand why that highway (933) just ended at the county line though, why not at SR 331? I guess they couldn't work a deal at the time either.  On an unrelated note, I hear parts of SR 25, and 55 might be decommissioned around US 136.  As for an update to previous post, SR 43 seems like it will end at the 65 interchange. 

SR 933 ends at the county line because Elkhart County was willing to take control of their portion of the road but St. Joseph County was not.  Yes, it makes for a very odd circumstance that a state highway just ends at some random intersection. 
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