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Started by CentralCAroadgeek, June 29, 2012, 08:22:36 PM

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Kniwt

The VMS on eastbound I-40 just outside Kingman AZ currently reads:


(Someone is threatening to jump from the bridge.)


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Kniwt on June 28, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
The VMS on eastbound I-40 just outside Kingman AZ currently reads:


(Someone is threatening to jump from the bridge.)

All the more ironic that they used the word "Hover" for a jumper...maybe that's optimism on the part of the VMS guy?  That would probably be one of the worst ways to go falling straight down 900 feet.  You would definitely feel a crap ton of terror before being concrete smashed by the surface of the water below.

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Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 31, 2012, 08:35:26 AM
The Exit 53A gore sign on Rt. 55 South in NJ had been replaced with a Exit 53 Exit sign at one point...even though it should have remained 53A.  It appeared someone just took an ordinary 4 inch "A" sticker that you can get in a pack of stickers at walmart or craft stores and stuck it to the sign. 

It remained that way for years.  I think a proper sign has finally been installed...but I can't remember!

The E-Z Letter/Quik Stik company used to make vinyl lettering like that.  Their larger Helvetica letters were actually FHWA Series C.

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Quote from: Kniwt on June 28, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
The VMS on eastbound I-40 just outside Kingman AZ currently reads:


(Someone is threatening to jump from the bridge.)

How do you view the VMSs' messages online?
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#906
Sign just installed on VFW Parkway in Boston references US Route 1.  Only problem is that US 1 Route 1 was re-routed off VFW Parkway, and other MDC/DCR roadways, in 1989 to its current routing between Dedham and Charlestown via I-95 and I-93.  Photo is at  http://www.universalhub.com/2016/what-does-dcr-know-about-vfw-parkway-we-dont
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Quote from: roadman on July 04, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
Sign just installed on VFW Parkway in Boston references US Route 1.  Only problem is that US 1 Route 1 was re-routed off VFW Parkway, and other MDC/DCR roadways, in 1989 to its current routing between Dedham and Charlestown via I-95 and I-93.  Photo is at  http://www.universalhub.com/2016/what-does-dcr-know-about-vfw-parkway-we-dont

The thread you're looking for is Erroneous Road Signs.
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Quote from: jbnv on July 04, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: roadman on July 04, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
Sign just installed on VFW Parkway in Boston references US Route 1.  Only problem is that US 1 Route 1 was re-routed off VFW Parkway, and other MDC/DCR roadways, in 1989 to its current routing between Dedham and Charlestown via I-95 and I-93.  Photo is at  http://www.universalhub.com/2016/what-does-dcr-know-about-vfw-parkway-we-dont

The thread you're looking for is Erroneous Road Signs.

I've cross posted this to the "Signs With Design Errors" thread.  However, and with respect, I still maintain this qualifies as both a design error AND an erroneous sign, given the nature of the error.
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roadfro

In the context of this thread, a "design error" is a mistake in the physical design of the sign. So something like using a blue background for a guide sign, putting 'exit only' text in mixed case lettering, etc.

The sign in question appears to have no glaring problems with the actual design, other than the erroneous mention of US 1.

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Quote from: noelbotevera on July 05, 2016, 11:07:29 AM
10.

I'd almost give that a pass given the age of that rail overpass...but where is the "one lane" sign?

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 05, 2016, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 05, 2016, 11:07:29 AM
10.

I'd almost give that a pass given the age of that rail overpass...but where is the "one lane" sign?

That's not height.  That's its sufficiency rating!   :-D

jakeroot

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 05, 2016, 11:51:55 AM
but where is the "one lane" sign?

Looks like two narrow lanes to me.

Big John

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 05, 2016, 01:01:53 PM

That's not height.  That's its sufficiency rating!   :-D
Laughter as railroad bridges don't get sufficiency ratings.

roadman

Quote from: roadfro on July 04, 2016, 06:40:15 PM
In the context of this thread, a "design error" is a mistake in the physical design of the sign. So something like using a blue background for a guide sign, putting 'exit only' text in mixed case lettering, etc.

The sign in question appears to have no glaring problems with the actual design, other than the erroneous mention of US 1.

LG-D850



So noted - appreciate the clarification.
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paulthemapguy

Here's a sign that should have been mounted as an overhead assembly.  But I'm guessing some pushover resident engineer let the contractor cut corners and install it off to the side for $$ cheap $$.  You can even see where the yellow "exit r7 only" tab was supposed to be.  And that "r7" was my poor attempt at indicating an arrow pointing diagonally up and to the right  :)


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#917
I've noticed a number of state route shields on the Florida panhandle feature shrunken numbers on the 3 digit shields, such as this one in Mariana, FL:
IMG_4532 by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the numbers are supposed to be larger.

Also, this is from Mariana as well. Don't ask me how or why they did this:
A bit off... by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
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This guy is along US 90 somewhere between Chattahooche, FL and Gretna, FL:
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Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:30:19 AM
I've noticed a number of state route shields on the Florida panhandle feature shrunken numbers on the 3 digit shields, such as this one in Mariana, FL:
IMG_4532 by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the numbers are supposed to be larger.

Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure the correct height for the numbers would be the same on both signs, and somewhere in between the two shown.

formulanone

#919
Quote from: Kacie Jane on July 12, 2016, 05:07:54 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:30:19 AM
I've noticed a number of state route shields on the Florida panhandle feature shrunken numbers on the 3 digit shields, such as this one in Mariana, FL:
IMG_4532 by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the numbers are supposed to be larger.

Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure the correct height for the numbers would be the same on both signs, and somewhere in between the two shown.

Florida is rarely consistent enough where I could say that either is truly incorrect. In the case of the "166", it's usually placed a bit lower on the sign. The numerals are usually not centered, to provide adequate spacing between the state outline (minus the western coast of Florida) and the numbers. Wide shields with 1xx numbers are kind of funny-looking.

tckma

I took my own photo of this one last year when I was in the area, but I can't find it.  Not sure whether to post this in "Worst of Road Signs" or "Signs With Design Errors," so it goes in both threads.

O'Fallon, IL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5725672,-89.9240178,3a,51.1y,166.86h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39RnGL69Ws5T_qTQBVp4BA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1

odditude

Quote from: tckma on July 14, 2016, 11:59:49 AM
I took my own photo of this one last year when I was in the area, but I can't find it.  Not sure whether to post this in "Worst of Road Signs" or "Signs With Design Errors," so it goes in both threads.

O'Fallon, IL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5725672,-89.9240178,3a,51.1y,166.86h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39RnGL69Ws5T_qTQBVp4BA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1

i actually understand the logic on that one, not that i necessarily agree with it... it's posted on the back side of a stop sign, and they felt it was more important to not alter the profile of the stop sign itself.

lordsutch

Quote from: odditude on July 14, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
i actually understand the logic on that one, not that i necessarily agree with it... it's posted on the back side of a stop sign, and they felt it was more important to not alter the profile of the stop sign itself.

The MUTCD explicitly prohibits posting a sign back-to-back with a stop sign that would alter the octagon silhouette of the traffic-facing side of the stop sign. In other words, any sign posted on the back must fit fully inside the octagonal shape.

7/8

I'm told this is the better place for my post, so here it is again :)

Quote from: 7/8 on July 14, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
I believe the sign on the left on Victoria St/Hwy 7 in Kitchener is technically not correct.



The Hwy 7 shield here is a junction shield, but I think it should instead be like this shield below.


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Apologies for the poor photo quality.  You'll need to click on the picture and zoom in.

Can you spot the design error?



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