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US Routes Old alignment far from New Alignment

Started by Avalanchez71, May 07, 2019, 03:18:21 PM

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Avalanchez71

Post your findings on demonstrating that the new alignment is far from the old alignment.  I guess far is subjective in this instance.


Max Rockatansky

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US 12 in Michigan diverged significantly south when it was realigned over what was US 112.  US 50 in western Utah/eastern Nevada took a huge swing north originally to reach US 40.  US 160 Used to end in Crescent Junction,UT before it was shifted far to the south in the Navajo Nation of Arizona.  US 19 in Florida used to multiplex US 41 for a long time in Florida before it was shifted more to the Gulf Coast in Pasco, Hernando, Citrus and Levy Counties.  The original alignment of US 60 followed the original alignment of AZ 73 until the Salt River Canyon Route was built a significant distance to the west.  US 40 in California likely used the Benicia-Martinez Ferry before the Carnquinez Bridge was built.  US 66 lost a large chunk of its mileage in New Mexico when it was realigned out of Santa Fe directly through Albuquerque.  US 97 has ended at US 99 in Oregon and California.  Before US 70 was extended to California it took drastically different alignments to varying western terminus points. 

TheHighwayMan3561

Depends on how far is "far"  enough:

MN:
US 65 used to swing northeast from Faribault to Northfield on its way into downtown St. Paul. First the terminus was changed to Minneapolis resulting in a swing back to the northwest from Northfield, then the route as a whole was realigned to what is roughly I-35 today before being decommissioned about 1980.

US 169 used to take an east-northeast path into downtown Minneapolis where it scraped the west side of downtown before turning northwest toward Anoka. Was realigned bit by bit to its present freeway alignment in the west suburbs.

US 212 went to Willmar in its earliest days, with its present alignment well to the south of that city.

bassoon1986

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US 80 dipping south toward the Mexican border at Douglas, Arizona compared to the I-10 corridor.


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ClassicHasClass

US 395's course in northern Oregon/southern Washington state changed in 1986-7, leaving the two routings rather different and somewhat widely spaced (today along I-84 and I-82 and some connecting pieces rather than along US 730 and US 12/former US 410).

US 6 used to go to Greeley, CO until 1937 (along what is now US 85 and US 34), when it then moved to the cutoff routing between Denver and Wiggins, CO now largely represented by I-76.

Just two examples off the top of my head that I've personally traveled.

Flint1979

US-10 was built onto a freeway east of Midland, before the freeway was built US-10 use to go through Saginaw on what is today M-47 and M-58 and continuing on what are now streets with local control (E. Genesee/Dixie Hwy/Saginaw Road, etc.) to Detroit. US-10 now ends in Bay City on the freeway. The change to the freeway put US-10 about 11 miles more north.

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US-202 on Paoli Pike between West Chester and Paoli, PA.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: bassoon1986 on May 07, 2019, 09:44:46 PM
US 80 dipping south toward the Mexican border at Douglas, Arizona compared to the I-10 corridor.


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Well, if you want to get technical I-10 took more of the general alignment of AZ 86 and AZ 84 over US 80 from the New Mexico State Line west to Gila Bend.

sparker

In Montana, US 212 originally ended in Miles City, using what's now MSR 59 north of Broadus.  At that point US 12 multiplexed with US 10 between Miles City and Laurel, heading to a terminus at Yellowstone NP over what is now US 212.  In 1960 US 12 was rerouted over previous MT 6 via Roundup and Harlowton, with a temporary end at US 10N at Townsend.  The previous western portion of US 12 was redesignated as US 312 from Forsyth to Yellowstone.  Two years later US 212 was routed over former MT 8 from Broadus to US 87 at Crow Agency, then multiplexing over US 87 and later US 10 and replacing US 312 from Billings to Yellowstone.  And finally US 312 took over the former US 212 southeast from Miles City to present US 212 near Broadus.  Eventually US 12 was extended west through Helena, Missoula, and Lolo Pass into Idaho and Washington; it reached US 95 by 1963 and was extended through WA by 1967.  Eventually US 312 was decommissioned after I-94 was completed in the Yellowstone Valley.  Thus, in the space of 7 years both US 12's and US 212's paths ended up quite different from their pre-1960 historical alignments.   

US 89

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US 191 has to rank pretty far up there, given it now runs around 150-200 miles east of the original routing. Before the interstates, it went southwest from West Yellowstone MT along what is now essentially the US 20 and I-15 corridors through eastern Idaho and northern Utah, ending at US 91/89/30S in Brigham City. I-15 construction made that segment redundant, so it was truncated back up to West Yellowstone. But in the early 1980s it was extended south through more of Wyoming, a completely different part of Utah, and eastern Arizona to I-40, and later was extended all the way to Mexico to replace the southern part of US 666.

DandyDan

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In Iowa, US 65 previously went west on what's now IA 2 to Leon, then north along the current US 69 to south of Indianola. It also went straight north along the current US 69 from Des Moines to Ames, then east from Ames to Colo. All this was previously the Jefferson Highway.

Several years ago, US 71 was rerouted in west central Iowa.
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WillWeaverRVA

US 360 and VA 360 are a pretty decent example of this in Virginia. I was going to comment about US 58 and US 58 ALT but it looks like US 58 ALT was never US 58 (thanks to VA Hwys Project for clarifying that).
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Avalanchez71

US 41 in Tennessee was realigned to run out to Tracy City along TN 150.  It foremerly ran along what is now I-24 over Monteagle Mountain.

Mapmikey

Another good example in Virginia is US 60 which used to use today's US 360 and US 460 to Lynchburg, then northwest back to Lexington.

South Carolina's best example is US 17 which used to run Charleston-Florence-Whiteville-Wilmington.

North Carolina has 2 good examples with US 64:  Bat Cave to Morganton used to go via Old Fort; Morganton to Statesville used to go via US 70.

ftballfan

US-127 used to run along current US-223 between US-12 and Toledo

TheStranger

Though neither are part of US 101 anymore, the Santa Ana Freeway south of Route 60 and the old Whittier Boulevard/Harbor Boulevard/Anaheim Boulevard routing between Los Angeles and Anaheim are about 7 miles apart at the point where old 72 made the turn from Whittier to Harbor in La Habra.

If one considers the 1930s US 101E as a former US 101 routing, the current Bayshore Freeway routing in San Mateo is about 15 miles west of former US 101E/current Route 238 in Hayward.
Chris Sampang

nexus73

US 101 in Coos County ran from Coos Bay to Coquille to Bandon until 1961.  That is when a bypass was built to the west to directly connect Coos Bay to Bandon.  Since Bandon and Coquille are 18 miles apart, there's your distance from the original to the "new".

Rick
US 101 is THE backbone of the Pacific coast from Bandon OR to Willits CA.  Industry, tourism and local traffic would be gone or severely crippled without it being in functioning condition in BOTH states.

Max Rockatansky

US 10 originally utilized the south shore of Lake Washington via the WA 900 corridor until the Lake Washington Floating Bridge was built. 

roadman65

US 50 in UT used to use US 6 instead of I-70. 
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cwf1701

US-431 doesn't follow the path of it predecessor US-241 south of Anniston. the Aliment of US-241 took it into Talladega (via todays ALA-21), But when US-431 replaced US-241, it went on a path that was much further east.

frankenroad

Quote from: ftballfan on May 08, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
US-127 used to run along current US-223 between US-12 and Toledo

I had not been aware of that, but I checked it out.   The change was made between the publishing of the 1930 and 1931 Ohio Highway maps.  Prior to that, what is now US-127 in Ohio was OH-9.  Learn something new every day!
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Flint1979

Quote from: ftballfan on May 08, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
US-127 used to run along current US-223 between US-12 and Toledo
US-223 shouldn't even be a US highway anymore. Perhaps M-223 is a better fit.

index

Is US 17 ALT/Old US 17 through South Carolina far away enough? It's far enough away it serves a completely different corridor than mainline US 17 today.

Mapmikey

Quote from: index on May 09, 2019, 08:06:07 PM
Is US 17 ALT/Old US 17 through South Carolina far away enough? It's far enough away it serves a completely different corridor than mainline US 17 today.

Only the part of US 17 ALT south of Walterboro has ever been US 17, which then used today's SC 64 east back to Jacksonboro.  Okay technically some of the US 17 ALT multiplex with US 52 in Moncks Corner was US 17 from 1926-34.

The rest of US 17 ALT was a renumbering of SC 64 which used to extend all the way to the Georgetown area.



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