Astronomy

[Beltway]

Well, you tried. It's weird how resistant some people are to this idea. To offer a different Wikipedia cite:
"Astrology and astronomy were archaically treated together (Latin: astrologia), and were only gradually separated in Western 17th century philosophy (the "Age of Reason") with the rejection of astrology. During the later part of the medieval period, astronomy was treated as the foundation upon which astrology could operate. Since the 18th century they have come to be regarded as completely separate disciplines."

Well, that is what happens when Wikipedia is used as a source.  It can be hit-or-miss especially on something that is controversial.

There never has been any "rejection of astrology", it is and always has been an occultic art, and the occult including astrology (use of horoscopes, etc.) has proliferated in the world in the last century.

Astrology is an ancient system in which the positions of the planets and stars are used for prophecy and divination.  Of all the occult arts, astrology is the most enduringly popular, despite attempts by scientists to discredit it.
http://occult-world.com/menu-divinations/astrology/

A prophecy is a message that is claimed by a prophet to have been communicated to them by a deity.

Divination is the attempt to gain insight into a question or situation by way of an occultic, standardized process or ritual.

The discipline of the occult would be in the humanities, not in the sciences, as it is not scientific, it deals with the supernatural.

[hotdogPi]

Well, you tried. It's weird how resistant some people are to this idea. To offer a different Wikipedia cite:
"Astrology and astronomy were archaically treated together (Latin: astrologia), and were only gradually separated in Western 17th century philosophy (the "Age of Reason") with the rejection of astrology. During the later part of the medieval period, astronomy was treated as the foundation upon which astrology could operate. Since the 18th century they have come to be regarded as completely separate disciplines."

Well, that is what happens when Wikipedia is used as a source.  It can be hit-or-miss especially on something that is controversial.

Astrology isn't controversial. It's pretty much universally regarded as being fake.

[MNHighwayMan]

Astrology isn't controversial. It's pretty much universally regarded as being fake.

It is, with intelligent people. The problem is the universality of intelligence...

[Beltway]

Astrology isn't controversial. It's pretty much universally regarded as being fake.

It is, with intelligent people. The problem is the universality of intelligence...

The occult is a branch of religion, false religion IMHO.

Nevertheless, many people practice the occult (and astrology is an occultic practice).

[CtrlAltDel]

Astrology isn't controversial. It's pretty much universally regarded as being fake.

There's also no doubt that astrology and astronomy were two sides of the same coin until fairly recently. Yet, here we are.

[Beltway]

There's also no doubt that astrology and astronomy were two sides of the same coin until fairly recently. Yet, here we are.

Astrology has always been an occultic practice, dealing with the supernatural, trying to get information from occultic sources (which are from demons).

Astronomy is a branch of science which deals with celestial objects, space, and the physical universe as a whole; the study of the physical characteristic of those bodies.

[CtrlAltDel]

Astrology has always been an occultic practice, dealing with the supernatural, trying to get information from occultic sources (which are from demons).

Astronomy is a branch of science which deals with celestial objects, space, and the physical universe as a whole; the study of the physical characteristic of those bodies.

You really seem to have difficulty understanding that the scope of various fields, and the lines between them, change over time. What you say is true in the present, but it was not true in the past.

[Duke87]

occultic sources (which are from demons).

Cool, you mean I can summon a demon by reading horoscopes? Badass.

[MNHighwayMan]

occultic sources (which are from demons).

Cool, you mean I can summon a demon by reading horoscopes? Badass.

Shit, I need to start buying a newspaper then. I have a few people that need a good demon infestation.

[US 89]

occultic sources (which are from demons).

Cool, you mean I can summon a demon by reading horoscopes? Badass.

Shit, I need to start buying a newspaper then. I have a few people that need a good demon infestation.

I make money exorcising demons. Infest away.

[Beltway]

Astrology has always been an occultic practice, dealing with the supernatural, trying to get information from occultic sources (which are from demons).
Astronomy is a branch of science which deals with celestial objects, space, and the physical universe as a whole; the study of the physical characteristic of those bodies.

You really seem to have difficulty understanding that the scope of various fields, and the lines between them, change over time. What you say is true in the present, but it was not true in the past.

I already provided documentation to the contrary.

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

[MNHighwayMan]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

[Beltway]

occultic sources (which are from demons).

Cool, you mean I can summon a demon by reading horoscopes? Badass.

You can get demonized by practicing astrology.

But not by looking thru your telescope at the sky.

[Beltway]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

[corco]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

[Beltway]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

No, not at all; it just seems that some posters are overly defensive about the history and practice of astrology.

[CtrlAltDel]

They aren't entirely different - in fact they used to be part of the exact same thing (hence the similar words) that we split into two.

Well, you tried.

And I tried too. But now I'm done.

[MNHighwayMan]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

No, not at all; it just seems that some posters are overly defensive about the history and practice of astrology.

Seems that reading comprehension is another failing practice.

Now where's my book of hexes...

[Alps]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

😈👿

[Beltway]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

No, not at all; it just seems that some posters are overly defensive about the history and practice of astrology.

Seems that reading comprehension is another failing practice.

Have you heard of "reading between the lines"?  Several posters are making a big deal about trying to meld the two disciplines from about a couple centuries backward.

[nexus73]

Are you and the others that are taking that position somehow trying to legitimize astrology as being more than the occultic activity that it is?

Are you taking that position that you can't read?

I am looking at background motives that may not yet been specifically articulated.

Shit, you caught us! This forum is full of secret devil-worshipping astrologers. You probably shouldn't post here anymore to save your soul.

...and our favorite song is "Highway To Hell"...LOL!

Rick

[NE2]

Without the devil we wouldn't have apple pie.

[ozarkman417]

kills my family
Sorry I can't help that i'm a Gemini!
JUST GET IN THE VAN!

[vdeane]

Don't forget to sign your name in the Book of the Beast.

[ozarkman417]

Back to Astronomy, The Orionids meteor shower peaked yesterday. Most of the meteors I saw were to the east.