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Started by Roadster, September 06, 2013, 09:16:26 AM

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Roadster

While doing a Google seach in Maps, looking for the location of a place called "Advance Music" in Burlington, Vermont I noticed this street sign next to the place that I was looking for, that got my attention. I have never seen a sign like it before (or at least in my part of the country) but was wondering if this is a common street sign up in the Northeast or just in Vermont?

The sign reads as follows:    "DEAF CHILD" in black lettering against a yellow back ground with black trim. Sort of like the old "Yield" style format sign and underneath it a smaller rectangcular "No Parking...This Side Of The Street" sign in red letters against a white background.

I tried posting an image of it but it will not let me post a picture of it?
Is this a common sign up in the Northeast area of the country or is it just in the state of Vermont?

Here is a link to the image:  http://goo.gl/maps/Nl1l1

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jeffandnicole

Typical sign anywhere, I thought.  I've seen them for 'Blind Child' as well.

Roadster

I can understand having a sign, specifically like that, if there was a school for 'Deaf Childern' on that street or nearby? Maybe a resident paid to have it put there, special consideration when requested, because of a child that is deaf that actually lives on that street? I know that, that can be done.

By the way anyone know as to "Why" I can't post picture's?
Tried using the "insert image" but when I try to paste something in between the [img] markings nothing happens?
Anyway help, suggestion or direction would be appreciated?
Thanks!

Alex

That is a common sign, another example is one in Navarre, FL installed shortly after a new home was sold.

I am not sure of the exact process, but there is probably an application or what not filled with the DOT to have a DEAF CHILD sign installed at the request of a resident.

Alex

Quote from: Roadster on September 06, 2013, 10:08:02 AM
I can understand having a sign, specifically like that, if there was a school for 'Deaf Childern' on that street or nearby? Maybe a resident paid to have it put there, special consideration when requested, because of a child that is deaf that actually lives on that street? I know that, that can be done.

By the way anyone know as to "Why" I can't post picture's?
Tried using the "insert image" but when I try to paste something in between the [img] markings nothing happens?
Anyway help, suggestion or direction would be appreciated?
Thanks!

There is no way to insert a photo from Google Streetview itself. You have to take a screen shot and upload it to a third party site and hotlink the photo's URL within the img tags on the forum.

briantroutman

Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 06, 2013, 09:45:10 AM
Typical sign anywhere, I thought.  I've seen them for 'Blind Child' as well.

I've seen "BLIND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING" and wondered whether that meant a sight impaired person lived in the area and commonly crossed the road–or simply that it was a pedestrian crossing that motorists couldn't see until they were right on top of it (like a blind corner).

Big John

There are custom signs like that all over the country.  They are not MUTCD compliant and are discouraged as it gives a false sense of security in the area of the sign.

Roadster

Quote from: Alex on September 06, 2013, 10:10:12 AM
There is no way to insert a photo from Google Streetview itself. You have to take a screen shot and upload it to a third party site and hotlink the photo's URL within the img tags on the forum.

Thank you Alex!

Zeffy

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I've seen a MUTCD compliant DEAF CHILD AREA warning sign somewhere around the borders of Somerset and Hunterdon county (I THINK, it might actually have been towards Mercer County) in New Jersey. I'll try and find a GMSV of it.

EDIT: Found it - the SV is shitty quality though, so yeah. I can make out the words.

http://goo.gl/maps/LOs0w
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Zeffy on September 06, 2013, 12:47:21 PM
MUTCD compliant DEAF CHILD AREA

is this a contradiction?  do all warning signs have to be one of several as prescribed in the MUTCD?  or, as long as the layout is correct, can they say anything?

if I make up a POOP sign that is the correct sized octagon, with correct reflectivity and colors and letter height/width and what have you, is that MUTCD compliant or not?
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Zeffy

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 06, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 06, 2013, 12:47:21 PM
MUTCD compliant DEAF CHILD AREA

is this a contradiction?  do all warning signs have to be one of several as prescribed in the MUTCD?  or, as long as the layout is correct, can they say anything?

I'm simply referring to the fact that it uses the standard alphabets typeface (in this case, Series C), looks to be correct letter height and spacing, and meets the reflectivity requirements set-forth by the MUTCD (having driven by this sign many, many times, I can assure you that).

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 06, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
if I make up a POOP sign that is the correct sized octagon, with correct reflectivity and colors and letter height/width and what have you, is that MUTCD compliant or not?

By my standards - yes, by the FHWAs... most likely not.  :bigass:
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 06, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
if I make up a POOP sign that is the correct sized octagon, with correct reflectivity and colors and letter height/width and what have you, is that MUTCD compliant or not?

Not until someone uses a marker to write "is cool".

agentsteel53

pooing is cool.  the consensus on poop has not yet been reached, but initial reports seem to imply that it's kinda shitty.
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formulanone

#13
In similar fashion, I wonder how one would have gotten this approved for Wakulla County 375:



(There's another one on the roadside, in other direction of traffic.)

Alps

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 06, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 06, 2013, 12:47:21 PM
MUTCD compliant DEAF CHILD AREA

is this a contradiction?  do all warning signs have to be one of several as prescribed in the MUTCD?  or, as long as the layout is correct, can they say anything?

if I make up a POOP sign that is the correct sized octagon, with correct reflectivity and colors and letter height/width and what have you, is that MUTCD compliant or not?

Here's the deal: MUTCD allows agencies to make their own WARNING (yellow/black) and REGULATORY (white/black or black/white) signs. This also is restricted to the standard diamond and rectangle shapes. So no octagonal POOP for you, even if it were black on yellow instead of white on red. However, DEAF CHILD is perfectly legit within the bounds of the MUTCD.

jeffandnicole


ATLRedSoxFan

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In my neck of the woods(Boston-So. Shore-Abington/Brockton) we have several neighborhoods that are "Thickly Settled" with "Slow Children"(without the child playing)..Not on the same sign, but in the same neighborhood..On the other hand, my neighbor couldn't understand the horrified look on my face when she said "she had her parents for dinner".. I guess it's how you look at it..But thickly settled with slow children...The shame..Oh, the shame..

ilvny

I saw a rectangular sign in my area that says "Handicapped Child in Area."  It's located on a cul-de-sac.  My family and I know the people that live there, and the (physically) handicapped child is now an adult.  I don't think the sign is necessary anymore because she doesn't live in that house anymore and she's not a child.  Also, if I were a physically handicapped child, I'd be insulted if a sign like that were near my house.

mass_citizen

Quote from: ilvny on October 08, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
I saw a rectangular sign in my area that says "Handicapped Child in Area."  It's located on a cul-de-sac.  My family and I know the people that live there, and the (physically) handicapped child is now an adult.  I don't think the sign is necessary anymore because she doesn't live in that house anymore and she's not a child.  Also, if I were a physically handicapped child, I'd be insulted if a sign like that were near my house.

A few months ago I was being tailgated (while speeding) by a person with a handicap placard hanging from their mirror and they turned into their driveway just after a "HANDICAPPED PERSON" warning sign.

vtk

In the Franklinton neighborhood of Columbus there's a sign saying something like "blind pedestrians in area" with an icon of a pedestrian with a red-tipped white cane.  It's very near a guide dog school.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

roadman

This is a good example of what's generally known in the traffic engineering trade as a "feel good" sign and, although often well-intentioned, will have little to no impact on altering long-term driver behavior.  Installation of such signs is almost always politically motivated.
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ilvny

Quote from: mass_citizen on October 08, 2013, 11:06:24 PM
Quote from: ilvny on October 08, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
I saw a rectangular sign in my area that says "Handicapped Child in Area."  It's located on a cul-de-sac.  My family and I know the people that live there, and the (physically) handicapped child is now an adult.  I don't think the sign is necessary anymore because she doesn't live in that house anymore and she's not a child.  Also, if I were a physically handicapped child, I'd be insulted if a sign like that were near my house.

A few months ago I was being tailgated (while speeding) by a person with a handicap placard hanging from their mirror and they turned into their driveway just after a "HANDICAPPED PERSON" warning sign.

Sounds like they shouldn't be on the road.  Also, people with handicap placards are required to remove them from the mirror while they are driving.  My dad has a handicap placard and he keeps it in the glove box when driving or not parked in a handicap spot.

jp the roadgeek

There used to be one in my town for deaf children in the neighborhood that when read from top to bottom was nonsensical.  It said "Deaf Slow Children"  in the style of a Speed 30 Limit sign.
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Janko Dialnice

Because of her severe arthritis, Mom qualified to get a handicapped placard. When she received it, I remember reading on it that it has to be removed when the vehicle is in motion. I just store it in the glove box of my car, unless I am actually parked in a handicapped spot with her.



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