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Tonytone

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 10:48:54 AM
It's interesting to see everyone go crazy.

What im seeing most is people are stockpiling to prepare to be in the house for 2 weeks to a month.

I wonder after all this passes if people & cities will now be cleaning up more Ie: subway cleaning, trash pickup, people cleaning them selves better.


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I'm not really getting the whole stock piling off water...especially Costco water.  Even if someone was told to quarantine in place that doesn't mean the tap would be shut off.  As far as I know there isn't any evidence of the current Coronavirus spreading through municipal drinking supplies.  Maybe think that all services will be shut off?  Either way it probably is a good idea to have a two week stock of supplies even just for a random natural disaster of utility failure.

Yea I was confused, I lived in Florida when Hurricane Katrina hit & power was only out for a week & we managed.

Now when Wilma hit, power was out a month & we managed to eat food, take baths by boiling water & shit the restaurant my dad worked at was still open they just hooked a generator up to the main things that needed power.

I understand the preparing, but even if the USA is quarantined for 2 weeks. Im stepping outside on my porch or taking a walk.

Fuck that.


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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 10:48:54 AM
It's interesting to see everyone go crazy.

What im seeing most is people are stockpiling to prepare to be in the house for 2 weeks to a month.

I wonder after all this passes if people & cities will now be cleaning up more Ie: subway cleaning, trash pickup, people cleaning them selves better.


iPhone

I'm not really getting the whole stock piling off water...especially Costco water.  Even if someone was told to quarantine in place that doesn't mean the tap would be shut off.  As far as I know there isn't any evidence of the current Coronavirus spreading through municipal drinking supplies.  Maybe think that all services will be shut off?  Either way it probably is a good idea to have a two week stock of supplies even just for a random natural disaster of utility failure.

Yea I was confused, I lived in Florida when Hurricane Katrina hit & power was only out for a week & we managed.

Now when Wilma hit, power was out a month & we managed to eat food, take baths by boiling water & shit the restaurant my dad worked at was still open they just hooked a generator up to the main things that needed power.

I understand the preparing, but even if the USA is quarantined for 2 weeks. Im stepping outside on my porch or taking a walk.

Fuck that.


iPhone

When I lived in Florida I was in charge of disaster preparedness for my company which obviously included hurricanes.  We would see a sudden spike of generator purchases every time the Weather Channel said we were in the "Cone of Uncertainty"  with an incoming storm.  Almost all those generators came back once the storm passed, it was usually a 90% chance it would miss.  Even in the worst case scenarios things were generally far from the "worst case"  that everyone was told to prepare for.  Should that mean that people shouldn't have emergency supplies?...no I wouldn't say that.  What would say that it was probably pretty unreasonable to assume the worst was going to happen in advance of an emergency actually occurring. 

I'm with you on that outdoor activity, I'm a life long distance runner.  To that end sometime the only thing that has ever made me feel better when I've had the Flu or even a Cold was a run outside.  Sick or not there really enough man power to stop people from going for a walk or jogging in their own neighborhoods. 

kalvado

#402
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 10:48:54 AM
It's interesting to see everyone go crazy.

What im seeing most is people are stockpiling to prepare to be in the house for 2 weeks to a month.

I wonder after all this passes if people & cities will now be cleaning up more Ie: subway cleaning, trash pickup, people cleaning them selves better.


iPhone

I'm not really getting the whole stock piling off water...especially Costco water.  Even if someone was told to quarantine in place that doesn't mean the tap would be shut off.  As far as I know there isn't any evidence of the current Coronavirus spreading through municipal drinking supplies.  Maybe think that all services will be shut off?  Either way it probably is a good idea to have a two week stock of supplies even just for a random natural disaster of utility failure.

Things may be more involved. Our particular area (3500 households) gets power outage 3-5 times a year due to storms. I assume power line passes through vulnerable location. Typically takes 3-4 hours to fix. Water keeps running, though.
Fine print: our sewer system requires power to run. MAYBE I can run it off the generator, haven't tried that yet.  House heat is natural gas, but requires 120V to run. I BELIEVE (not tested) same for the stove. I do have a generator, but gas may be not be pumped without power..

Someone else may use private well, and depend on electricity for pumping.

Now I take as less than guaranteed that there will be crew on hand to fix those outages, if they happens. It can be a domino effect...

PS. My emergency water supply is a 40 gallon hot water tank in the basement. Flushed clean, that is recommended as an annual procedure anyway.

Tonytone

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on March 11, 2020, 10:48:54 AM
It's interesting to see everyone go crazy.

What im seeing most is people are stockpiling to prepare to be in the house for 2 weeks to a month.

I wonder after all this passes if people & cities will now be cleaning up more Ie: subway cleaning, trash pickup, people cleaning them selves better.


iPhone

I'm not really getting the whole stock piling off water...especially Costco water.  Even if someone was told to quarantine in place that doesn't mean the tap would be shut off.  As far as I know there isn't any evidence of the current Coronavirus spreading through municipal drinking supplies.  Maybe think that all services will be shut off?  Either way it probably is a good idea to have a two week stock of supplies even just for a random natural disaster of utility failure.

Yea I was confused, I lived in Florida when Hurricane Katrina hit & power was only out for a week & we managed.

Now when Wilma hit, power was out a month & we managed to eat food, take baths by boiling water & shit the restaurant my dad worked at was still open they just hooked a generator up to the main things that needed power.

I understand the preparing, but even if the USA is quarantined for 2 weeks. Im stepping outside on my porch or taking a walk.

Fuck that.


iPhone

When I lived in Florida I was in charge of disaster preparedness for my company which obviously included hurricanes.  We would see a sudden spike of generator purchases every time the Weather Channel said we were in the "Cone of Uncertainty"  with an incoming storm.  Almost all those generators came back once the storm passed, it was usually a 90% chance it would miss.  Even in the worst case scenarios things were generally far from the "worst case"  that everyone was told to prepare for.  Should that mean that people shouldn't have emergency supplies?...no I wouldn't say that.  What would say that it was probably pretty unreasonable to assume the worst was going to happen in advance of an emergency actually occurring. 

I'm with you on that outdoor activity, I'm a life long distance runner.  To that end sometime the only thing that has ever made me feel better when I've had the Flu or even a Cold was a run outside.  Sick or not there really enough man power to stop people from going for a walk or jogging in their own neighborhoods.

In reality this could be a good thing.

Airports may now implement new screening to make sure people aren't sick.

Communities may come together to create emergency plans.

The government HOPEFULLY will implement better containment procedures.

Companies may move to different countries or back to America.

People will start to care more about hygiene.

The cons of course would be

Asian community looked at as "dirty"

Communities acting cultish & not allowing others in

Extensive traveling screening/tighter borders which proved trump correct about tighter borders so we wont hear the end of that.

Prepare for a "9/11 effect"  on hygiene.




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ozarkman417

#404
The Electronic Entertainment Expo (better known as E3) is Los Angeles has been cancelled due to the Coronavirus. The event was scheduled for June 9-11. This is the event where many major video games, consoles, and other software/hardware is announced.




After careful consultation with our member companies regarding the health and safety of everyone in our industry — our fans, our employees, our exhibitors, and our longtime E3 partners — we have made the difficult decision to cancel E3 2020, scheduled for June 9-11 in Los Angeles.

Following increased and overwhelming concerns about the COVID-19 virus, we felt this was the best way to proceed during such an unprecedented global situation. We are very disappointed that we are unable to hold this event for our fans and supporters. But we know it's the right decision based on the information we have today.

Our team will be reaching out directly to exhibitors and attendees with information about providing full refunds.

We are also exploring options with our members to coordinate an online experience to showcase industry announcements and news in June 2020. Updates will be shared on E3Expo.com.

We thank everyone who shared their views on reimagining E3 this year. We look forward to bringing you E3 2021 as a reimagined event that brings fans, media, and the industry together in a showcase that celebrates the global video game industry.

hotdogPi

UMass Lowell is on its scheduled spring break this week. Due to COVID-19, classes will resume on the 18th, not the 16th. They will be online until at least April 3.
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More grim news from Italy:  cases jumped in 24 hours from 10,149 to 12,462.  The only silver lining is that since the earlier total did not include 600 cases from Lombardy (incomplete returns), the daily average increase over the past two days has been 17%, a bit less than the 20%+ it has been for most of the past couple of weeks.
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bandit957

Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 11, 2020, 02:28:22 PM
The Electronic Entertainment Expo (better known as E3) is Los Angeles has been cancelled due to the Coronavirus. The event was scheduled for June 9-11. This is the event where many major video games, consoles, and other software/hardware is announced.

Canceling something 3 months away is wuss behavior.
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Bruce

Quote from: bandit957 on March 11, 2020, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 11, 2020, 02:28:22 PM
The Electronic Entertainment Expo (better known as E3) is Los Angeles has been cancelled due to the Coronavirus. The event was scheduled for June 9-11. This is the event where many major video games, consoles, and other software/hardware is announced.

Canceling something 3 months away is wuss behavior.

An international conference of that scale requires advance notice. Take a look at the SXSW situation, which includes layoffs and business closures, for what happens when you don't give advance notice.
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Quote from: Bruce on March 11, 2020, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on March 11, 2020, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 11, 2020, 02:28:22 PM
The Electronic Entertainment Expo (better known as E3) is Los Angeles has been cancelled due to the Coronavirus. The event was scheduled for June 9-11. This is the event where many major video games, consoles, and other software/hardware is announced.

Canceling something 3 months away is wuss behavior.

An international conference of that scale requires advance notice. Take a look at the SXSW situation, which includes layoffs and business closures, for what happens when you don't give advance notice.

Is E3 even a big deal nowadays?  I haven't a single thing that indicated that it was still going on in at least a decade.  Maybe I'm just getting old and I'm the one who isn't with it anymore...  Regardless cancelling something three months out seems a little like jumping gun to me also,m. 

Didn't the Ivy League cancel their NCAA Men's Basketball tournament?  I'm to understand some other conferences like the MAC are playing in empty arenas. 

1995hoo

The Ivy League did cancel both of their conference basketball tournaments, though it doesn't mean a whole lot because both tournaments are three-game affairs–only the top four teams qualify and then they play single-elimination in the usual format of 1 v 4, 2 v 3, then a championship game.

DC just urged that there be no gatherings of over 1000 people in a single place. No idea what that will mean for the rest of the hockey season. We have season tickets (we share them with some other people) and I'd like to know what they plan to do as to crediting us for the price of tickets if they play behind closed doors.
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TravelingBethelite

Both SUNY and Penn State just cancelled in-person classes through at least the ends of their respective spring breaks.
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RobbieL2415

Quote from: kalvado on March 11, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
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Quote from: 02 Park Ave on March 09, 2020, 10:39:35 AM
Since no level of government here in the US is actually trying to contain the Virus, we can only expect the worst.
C) Those people are 'escaping' Italy's quarantined area if they want to.  So if Italy can't contain them, and they make it to other countries and fly to the US, how exactly is the US supposed to stop them?
The end result with that would be the FAA closing off airspace for international arrivals and departures.
There is a lot at play here. Air cargo. Do you think US has enough mask making capacity? China is accelerating after shutdown...
Once you have some traffic across the border, you may not ban citizens from entry. Quarantine, sure.

Israel went further than any other country, 2ith mandatory quarantine for anyone crossing the border. Probably as strict of a control as realistically possible right now.
The US embassies would coordinate an evacuation of citizens.  They'd probably contract with US-based airlines.

The ban would only apply to civilian, non-essential air traffic.  Cargo flights carrying essentials would be allowed.

I wouldn't worry about Chinese goods getting here.  Those arrive on container ships bound for LA, San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle.  From there the freight is transferred to intermodal transit, either on the road or via rail to head across the continent.
US embassies can do only that much.
As for goods, there is only that much sense in sending them intermodal (3 weeks at sea, 1 week across US)  when MA will run out in a week at a normal rate, and has to use expired stuff from the national emergency stockpile.
Some goods arrive along the EC too, but it's mostly oil.

Big John

The NVAA just announced that the tournament will be played without fans.

Tonytone


Of course it would be UD first.


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1995hoo

Note what someone highlighted.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Brian556

Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Note what someone highlighted.


That stuff is automatically posted when you select the item condition. There would be no way for the seller to just say "New" and nothing else.

kalvado

Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Note what someone highlighted.
you never heard jokes about recycled chocolate, right?

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Note what someone highlighted.


I would hope it would be unused....  I've been telling my wife we should roll the dice on putting our bottled water and toilet paper on Facebook Market place to see we can up sell them.  We usually have a four week supply on hand for guests, plenty to go around!...but supplies are limited. 

Duke87

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 03:54:54 PM
Is E3 even a big deal nowadays?  I haven't a single thing that indicated that it was still going on in at least a decade.

It is and isn't. 20 years ago it was a big deal that nerds all over the country would trip over each other trying to get passes to, because they would sell out quickly and were very difficult to get.

Then, the organizers of the event decided to cut off the craziness and made it so passes were only available to people who work in the electronics industry, no more general public admittance. Once they did this, the event stopped getting talked about so much. But yes, it still happens every year.

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 11, 2020, 04:08:13 PM
Both SUNY and Penn State just cancelled in-person classes through at least the ends of their respective spring breaks.

CUNY too. The amusing thing? My wife, who finished her masters degree there four years ago and hasn't enrolled in any classes since, still got a phone call, text, and email informing her of this.
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^^^

Well then that makes sense why I thought E3 disappeared. 

Apparently the NCAA Tournament will be played without fans:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans

Similarly on ESPN TV the NBA is expected to make a similar move for the rest of the season. 

US 89

Quote from: Duke87 on March 11, 2020, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 11, 2020, 04:08:13 PM
Both SUNY and Penn State just cancelled in-person classes through at least the ends of their respective spring breaks.

CUNY too. The amusing thing? My wife, who finished her masters degree there four years ago and hasn't enrolled in any classes since, still got a phone call, text, and email informing her of this.

At this point, the list of colleges/universities that are closing and/or moving entirely online includes over 200 schools across 31 states. There's a list over on Github that's being updated as more and more announcements are made.

RobbieL2415

I'm going to say something you may not like, but to hell with avoiding domestic travel.

With all the panic going on, fares for flights and hotel rates are stupid cheap.  I saw some round-trip flights from BDL to LAX for $250.  I saw a bunch of hotels in Midtown Manhattan going for $150 or less, many below $100.  If you're healthy, I say take a chance and go somewhere.  If you get the virus, you get the virus.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 11, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
I'm going to say something you may not like, but to hell with avoiding domestic travel.

With all the panic going on, fares for flights and hotel rates are stupid cheap.  I saw some round-trip flights from BDL to LAX for $250.  I saw a bunch of hotels in Midtown Manhattan going for $150 or less, many below $100.  If you're healthy, I say take a chance and go somewhere.  If you get the virus, you get the virus.

$97 dollars for me to get to Seattle from Fresno if I want to go by month end.  That's almost too irresistible not to take a weekend out Olympic National Park.  I'm looking at hotel prices tonight for a road trip to Boise, I'm not passing up on the opportunity to save a buck and avoid all the crowds.  I'm even considering a snow trip to Yosemite this weekend...why not at this point? 

Tonytone

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 11, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
I'm going to say something you may not like, but to hell with avoiding domestic travel.

With all the panic going on, fares for flights and hotel rates are stupid cheap.  I saw some round-trip flights from BDL to LAX for $250.  I saw a bunch of hotels in Midtown Manhattan going for $150 or less, many below $100.  If you're healthy, I say take a chance and go somewhere.  If you get the virus, you get the virus.

$97 dollars for me to get to Seattle from Fresno if I want to go by month end.  That's almost too irresistible not to take a weekend out Olympic National Park.  I'm looking at hotel prices tonight for a road trip to Boise, I'm not passing up on the opportunity to save a buck and avoid all the crowds.  I'm even considering a snow trip to Yosemite this weekend...why not at this point?
Finally some "Cup is half full"  thinking & not negative.


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