Coronavirus pandemic

[oscar]

The Oglalga Sioux has pretty much given the same response to the governor.

https://www.kotatv.com/content/news/Oglala-Sioux-Tribe-to-Gov-Noem-Your-threats-of-legal-action-are-not-helpful-570346431.html

At least that tribe is trying only to monitor rather than block through traffic. It is supplementing the checkpoints on state-maintained routes, with checkpoints on tribal roads on which it can legally prohibit travel.

[Tonytone]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

[bandit957]

Well, the reservations are sort of like countries, and countries have border checkpoints.

An island would be similar. If my town was an island, why wouldn't I want it blocked from the rest of the country during a pandemic? As far as I'm concerned, people could move about the island all they want. But would I want the rest of the country visiting? If a visitor could be quickly tested for coronavirus, I probably wouldn't have a problem though. But I'm not sure if that's doable.

[bandit957]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone

Montana has absolutely crushed it.

[GaryV]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Until the 2nd wave hits.

[bandit957]

Until the 2nd wave hits.

If there's a second wave, it won't be for months. By that time, I expect them to have learned from the stupid mistakes they made this time so it can be stamped out quickly.

[oscar]

Well, the reservations are sort of like countries, and countries have border checkpoints.

An island would be similar. If my town was an island, why wouldn't I want it blocked from the rest of the country during a pandemic? As far as I'm concerned, people could move about the island all they want. But would I want the rest of the country visiting? If a visitor could be quickly tested for coronavirus, I probably wouldn't have a problem though. But I'm not sure if that's doable.

Did the tribe agree to permit through travel, as part of the deal where the state built paved high-speed highways across the reservation (much better than the crappy BIA roads I saw from the highway in that reservation)? If the state crammed US 212 down the tribe's throat, that would help its case. But I suspect that the tribe wanted that highway and the other state highways, to improve its access to communities outside the reservation as well as travel within that large reservation.

[CoreySamson]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

More great news: Brazoria County has over 650 cases, but over half of those are recovered, and 71% of the remaining active cases are inmates at the county jails, meaning only 89 cases are active in the public areas of the county.

On a side note, many counties in the Houston area are reporting more recovered cases than active ones, most notably, Wharton, Brazoria, and Galveston counties. However, Fort Bend and Harris counties have about a 2 to 1 ratio of active to recovered, a trend I see in other parts of the country.

Are the counties reporting a higher percentage of recovered cases being too lenient with the recovered term, or are the other counties simply not updating their recovered case counts? I'm thinking it might be the latter, because there have not been any recovered cases reported in the state jails in Brazoria County.

[bandit957]

Are the counties reporting a higher percentage of recovered cases being too lenient with the recovered term, or are the other counties simply not updating their recovered case counts? I'm thinking it might be the latter, because there have not been any recovered cases reported in the state jails in Brazoria County.

Some health departments just don't report recovered cases, or they wait a very long time.

[NWI_Irish96]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

Except that we're not going to keep it up because all the states are relaxing restrictions.  That trend will reverse soon.

[kalvado]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

Except that we're not going to keep it up because all the states are relaxing restrictions.  That trend will reverse soon.

Challenge is to set up  set of restrictions strong enough to keep infection from flaring up, but weak enough to keep economy going as much as possible.
 

[bandit957]

Challenge is to set up  set of restrictions strong enough to keep infection from flaring up, but weak enough to keep economy going as much as possible.

That's what Sweden does.

[Max Rockatansky]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

Except that we're not going to keep it up because all the states are relaxing restrictions.  That trend will reverse soon.

Challenge is to set up  set of restrictions strong enough to keep infection from flaring up, but weak enough to keep economy going as much as possible.

And to that end, I haven't heard of single governmental body in the United States that has declared "business as normal"  in regards to any kind of reopening.  Almost every state, local jurisdiction, or even business has some sort of safety policy put in place as part of their reopening process.  The impression I get is that a lot of people assume any kind of reopening is analogous to ripping the band aid completely off when it isn't. 

[Max Rockatansky]

My work's "liberty zone"  has been expanded to include; Yosemite National Park, Kings Canyon National Park, Sierra National Forest, and Sequoia National Forest.  While the National Parks aren't open pretty much everything in the National Forests is.  To that end my wife and I are planning on cycling/hiking numerous Forest Service Road/Trails starting this next weekend.  Suffice to say I can handle having a summer that includes the remote Sierra Nevada Mountains over not having it at all. 

Long term I'm hoping for Sequoia National Park to open up so I can head back out to Mineral King.  I much rather be on some remote trail or camp ground fending for myself on my days off again over being in Fresno...really any urban area.  At least I'll have some new material to put on Gribblenation, it's been hard coming up with new stuff.  I really am surprised at how excited I am to get out of the city and have it be legit finally.  I started ripping up my left knee running excess miles and I can finally scale back to 35 a week since my regular mountain grounds are back in play. 

[hbelkins]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

Except that we're not going to keep it up because all the states are relaxing restrictions.  That trend will reverse soon.

Other than New York City, has there been any place where the health care system has been overwhelmed? None to my knowledge. The stated reason for all these government-mandated closures was to "flatten the curve" to prevent that from happening. In Kentucky, hospital capacity was never close to being reached. In fact, hospitals are having to furlough or lay off personnel and most of them are empty, so there's plenty of capacity. And two field hospitals were built, one in Lexington and one in Louisville, and neither has seen their first patient. It's not likely that we'll have a second wave (I believe this for a variety of reasons), but we could have a future outbreak 5 to 10 times worse than the current one and the health care system would still not be overburdened.

[kalvado]

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.

Beautiful. Keep up the good work everyone


iPhone

Except that we're not going to keep it up because all the states are relaxing restrictions.  That trend will reverse soon.

Other than New York City, has there been any place where the health care system has been overwhelmed? None to my knowledge. The stated reason for all these government-mandated closures was to "flatten the curve" to prevent that from happening. In Kentucky, hospital capacity was never close to being reached. In fact, hospitals are having to furlough or lay off personnel and most of them are empty, so there's plenty of capacity. And two field hospitals were built, one in Lexington and one in Louisville, and neither has seen their first patient. It's not likely that we'll have a second wave (I believe this for a variety of reasons), but we could have a future outbreak 5 to 10 times worse than the current one and the health care system would still not be overburdened.

If you will, fact that containment is successful so far means that those measures work, and nothing else. NYC shows that going into catastrophic mode is very possible, and any further steps have to account for, and avoid as much as possible, that very scenario.

[Bruce]

Other than New York City, has there been any place where the health care system has been overwhelmed? None to my knowledge. The stated reason for all these government-mandated closures was to "flatten the curve" to prevent that from happening. In Kentucky, hospital capacity was never close to being reached. In fact, hospitals are having to furlough or lay off personnel and most of them are empty, so there's plenty of capacity. And two field hospitals were built, one in Lexington and one in Louisville, and neither has seen their first patient. It's not likely that we'll have a second wave (I believe this for a variety of reasons), but we could have a future outbreak 5 to 10 times worse than the current one and the health care system would still not be overburdened.

Seattle came extremely close until the remote-work policies from major employers and shutdown from the state government really took effect. My local hospital (Everett Providence) was within days of running out of supplies, with similar stories reported at Harborview, Swedish, and UW Medical.

That was the whole point of flattening the curve. The virus will still have new cases because it's impossible to totally stamp out here, but if it's kept at a low enough level there won't be a total collapse of the health system.

Still, the death toll is now approaching 100,000 in official counts (and likely well over because of under-testing of the recently dead). That's a huge failure from the leadership up top, who were given plenty of time to prepare but didn't.

[mgk920]

I'm tired of the national media insisting that whether or not a person wears a mask is a symbol of their political views. My own practices on this (and the practices of other folks I know) contradict what they claim.

It's really a matter of whether it's realistic to wear one depending on what activity you're engaged in.

For at least the past several decades, the national press corps has been pretty much 100% political in nearly all of their 'reporting', such that I seldom pay any attention to them anymore.

Sad, but that is the state of the USA's 4th estate.

Mike

[mgk920]

Question:

What does military aircraft flying overhead have to do with the pandemic?  I've seen a couple of posts now about seeing them, and I don't get the connection.

Apparently the military aircrafts flying above are leaving chemtrials with more "corona virus or another human harming ingredient"


iPhone

Chemtrials? What are you, a conspiracy theorist?

Well, they do leave behind a mixture of chemicals, such as water vapor, carbon dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, soot, etc.

Mike

[jakeroot]

Seattle came extremely close until the remote-work policies from major employers and shutdown from the state government really took effect. My local hospital (Everett Providence) was within days of running out of supplies, with similar stories reported at Harborview, Swedish, and UW Medical.

That was the whole point of flattening the curve. The virus will still have new cases because it's impossible to totally stamp out here, but if it's kept at a low enough level there won't be a total collapse of the health system.

This is exactly the way I see it. Hospitals being empty is a bit unusual, but clearly a sign that staying home is working: leaving your home naturally results in a massive increase in the chance of being injured or contracting a disease.

Fact is, at the end of the day, your chance of contracting COVID-19 is virtually zero if you don't leave your home. If you leave regularly, driving a car, smoking a cigarette, and shaking hands with everyone you meet? Well, naturally, your chance of getting injured, sick, or killed is much higher, COVID-19 or not. This stay-at-home order has certainly reduced hospital visits for numerous reasons.

[1995hoo]

iPhone

Something tells me this sort of sign is likely to be popular with the so-called "sovereign citizen" crowd.

[SEWIGuy]

I'm tired of the national media insisting that whether or not a person wears a mask is a symbol of their political views. My own practices on this (and the practices of other folks I know) contradict what they claim.

It's really a matter of whether it's realistic to wear one depending on what activity you're engaged in.

For at least the past several decades, the national press corps has been pretty much 100% political in nearly all of their 'reporting', such that I seldom pay any attention to them anymore.

Sad, but that is the state of the USA's 4th estate.

Mike

Fox, MSNBC, CNN have all evolved from "news channels" to "opinion channels."

[Tonytone]

iPhone

Something tells me this sort of sign is likely to be popular with the so-called "sovereign citizen" crowd.

You know it!

When the government is taking away your righ.... Wait our rights havent been taken away.


iPhone

[SEWIGuy]

iPhone

Something tells me this sort of sign is likely to be popular with the so-called "sovereign citizen" crowd.

You know it!

When the government is taking away your righ.... Wait our rights havent been taken away.


iPhone

I'm pretty sure that some people would protest "No Shirt. No Shoes. No Service" policies if they came out today.

[bandit957]

How much do you want to bet that mask ordinances stay in force even after the pandemic ends?