On the "tip of your tongue" (figuratively) for a long time

[bandit957]

Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.

April Wine's cover of "21st Century Schizoid Man" from the album that had "I Like To Rock" on it?

I found this on YouTube, and that wasn't it.

[Roadrunner75]

Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.

April Wine's cover of "21st Century Schizoid Man" from the album that had "I Like To Rock" on it?

I found this on YouTube, and that wasn't it.

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

[bandit957]

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

The song I remember was earlier.

I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.

[jakeroot]

On my phone, Shazam, with all of the tagged songs that I have (300 to 400 since I purchased my phone in Sep 2018), only takes up 38.46 MB. Other apps that I use regularly, such as Facebook, Snapchat, and my notes app, take up infinitely more space on my phone, but I also have over 400GB of storage space with my internal storage space and a micro SD card so everything's a drop in the bucket.

That is quite small.  Maybe I'll consider it.

For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
  3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
  3.70 GB = Free internal storage

That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle. But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up, not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.

*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.

[Roadrunner75]

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

The song I remember was earlier.

I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.

OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter:  Rush - 2112.

It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!

[kphoger]

That is quite small.  Maybe I'll consider it.

For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
  3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
  3.70 GB = Free internal storage

That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle.

It's the main down-side of my phone.  However, my criteria when shopping for a phone are not what they are for most people.  My two primary criteria are that the phone (1) have GSM roaming capability and (2) have a replaceable battery.  Just those two criteria alone severely limit the number of models to choose from when it comes to phone shopping time.  Secondarily, I look for a phone with a decent camera, but that's nowhere near as important as the first two criteria.

But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up, not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.

*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.

Except that it wouldn't help bandit957 anyway, because he's trying to remember a song that he heard on the radio decades ago.  I'm pretty sure Shazam can't come up with a title for that!

[hbelkins]

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

The song I remember was earlier.

I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.

OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter:  Rush - 2112.

It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!

"2112" was an entire album side. No DJ would play that unless they needed to take an extremely long dump.

Some compilations have included "Overture" and "The Temples of Syrinx" as an individual cut, but I'm not sure that ever got any play on a pop station, or even an AOR station.

[jakeroot]

But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up, not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.

*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.

Except that it wouldn't help bandit957 anyway, because he's trying to remember a song that he heard on the radio decades ago.  I'm pretty sure Shazam can't come up with a title for that!

I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.

It's actually interesting because another app, Soundhound, also allows you to hum and sing to it, and it can identify the track based on that alone. I don't know how effective it is, but it's an interesting advancement for sure.

That is quite small.  Maybe I'll consider it.

For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
  3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
  3.70 GB = Free internal storage

That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle.

It's the main down-side of my phone.  However, my criteria when shopping for a phone are not what they are for most people.  My two primary criteria are that the phone (1) have GSM roaming capability and (2) have a replaceable battery.  Just those two criteria alone severely limit the number of models to choose from when it comes to phone shopping time.  Secondarily, I look for a phone with a decent camera, but that's nowhere near as important as the first two criteria.

Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries. I guess the good news for you is that battery technology is advancing relatively fast with the advent of electric vehicles, so you should be able to get a phone without a removable battery but with a massive charge relatively soon.

[kphoger]

I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.

We might be talking past each other.  I meant that, thirty years from now, if I'm stumped trying to figure out what song I heard this month, it won't help me that Shazam was available in 2020.

Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.

I've already replaced my battery once.  Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone not have a replaceable battery.

[Roadrunner75]

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

The song I remember was earlier.

I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.

OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter:  Rush - 2112.

It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!

"2112" was an entire album side. No DJ would play that unless they needed to take an extremely long dump.

Some compilations have included "Overture" and "The Temples of Syrinx" as an individual cut, but I'm not sure that ever got any play on a pop station, or even an AOR station.

What?  At nearly 21 minutes long, it's the perfect radio single length.  Hummable melodies, a beat you can dance to, and the ladies love it too (all 3 of them).  This of course excludes women like my wife, who only came along because she bought me tickets as a birthday gift, because I mentioned that I was a fan back in my high school days and had seen them on the Presto tour.  Good thing I got to see them again 17 or so years later, though, before Peart passed.

[jakeroot]

I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.

We might be talking past each other.  I meant that, thirty years from now, if I'm stumped trying to figure out what song I heard this month, it won't help me that Shazam was available in 2020.

I gotcha. I hadn't considered that because, with having Shazam (or SoundHound) for so long now, I haven't had those unknown songs burning a hole in my head like many that are older than me.

Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.

I've already replaced my battery once.  Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone not have a replaceable battery.

I don't think the manufacturers can justify it, especially when you consider how Average Joe uses their phone: plug in at night, regular to moderate to usage during the day; most phones can get people through a day, especially with how often people have access to a plug (work, home, car, bus, train, etc). Plus, non-removable batteries allow for IP-68 ratings and larger overall batteries that don't have to shrink to fit mechanics that would otherwise allow it to be removable. The batteries can vary in size and shape as well, if they don't need to be removable, and they allow phones to be thinner and lighter.

[Roadrunner75]

Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.

I've already replaced my battery once.  Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone not have a replaceable battery.

I don't think the manufacturers can justify it, especially when you consider how Average Joe uses their phone: plug in at night, regular to moderate to usage during the day; most phones can get people through a day, especially with how often people have access to a plug (work, home, car, bus, train, etc). Plus, non-removable batteries allow for IP-68 ratings and larger overall batteries that don't have to shrink to fit mechanics that would otherwise allow it to be removable. The batteries can vary in size and shape as well, if they don't need to be removable, and they allow phones to be thinner and lighter.

Is the main concern the battery going bad or having a charged spare if you run out?  I would rather an easily replaceable battery too, but I accept that most phones don't have this anymore, and certainly not the Iphone which I have and like.  The battery can still be replaced, but it's just not as easy as popping it out - You can have the pros do it, or probably just watch a Youtube video on it - and it's more expensive. For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years.   For a charged spare, they do have portable power banks.

[kphoger]

For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years.

And this is what I think is the real reason manufacturers don't make many phones with replaceable batteries.  $20 on Amazon for a new battery vs buying a whole new phone from your provider:  which choice would the manufacturer prefer you make?

[jakeroot]

For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years.

And this is what I think is the real reason manufacturers don't make many phones with replaceable batteries.  $20 on Amazon for a new battery vs buying a whole new phone from your provider:  which choice would the manufacturer prefer you make?

There are definitely profits to be made in non-removable batteries. But that's just the nature of a consumer-based society: if we show interest in one or more things that are given to use by non-removable batteries, such as longer overall full-to-dead charge times, or thinner phones, manufacturers are definitely going to head in that direction, especially if, by forcing users to have the OEM replace the battery to keep the warranty going, they make some significant profits.

I will fully admit that my primary interest in upgrading my phone either once per year or once every two years is because the batteries start to go out. But there are many other reasons to replace a phone, such as better cameras, better screens, safer unlock techniques, larger batteries, faster internals, etc. These are less important issues for iPhone users because there's only so many iPhones, but two years of Android phone releases could mean 100+ new devices; naturally there are going to be advancements with that many phones to perhaps consider upgrading for reasons other than a removable battery.

[renegade]

I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s

[US71]

I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s

Welcome to AA Roads

[Roadgeekteen]

I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s

Aren't you a pleasant guy?

[TravelingBethelite]

How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.

The song I remember was earlier.

I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.

When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?

[bandit957]

When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?

Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.

[Roadrunner75]

When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?

Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.

Could the song in question be classified as Yacht Rock as well?  I stumbled upon the Yacht Rock channel on Sirius XM where they play the following:

1.  "Sailing" by Christopher Cross
2.  Songs where Michael McDonald is the lead singer or does at least background vocals

[kurumi]

I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s

Welcome to AA Roads

The way you check if a 9V battery has charge still fits the thread title :-)

[bandit957]

When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?

Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.

Could the song in question be classified as Yacht Rock as well?  I stumbled upon the Yacht Rock channel on Sirius XM where they play the following:

1.  "Sailing" by Christopher Cross
2.  Songs where Michael McDonald is the lead singer or does at least background vocals

It wasn't as soft. It was more like Styx, Rush, or Kansas.

[bandit957]

Anyone remember a song called "Boom Boom"? Not the Paul Lekakis song, but a different one. It came out around 1984, but I don't think it even charted.

[CtrlAltDel]

I was a bit late to the Shazam game, but I finally got it and it's great.  Now if only they had an upgrade that could identify songs from me humming them or poorly singing incorrect lyrics....

Have you tried Sound Hound? There's also this web site, that I've used with success.

[hbelkins]

Anyone remember a song called "Boom Boom"? Not the Paul Lekakis song, but a different one. It came out around 1984, but I don't think it even charted.

This one?