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Started by Bruce, January 21, 2020, 04:49:28 PM

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US71

US is done with Covid-19 but it's not done with us.

Arkansas, as been previously stated, is reopening businesses while cases of Covid-19 are going up.
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Rothman

Quote from: 1 on June 14, 2020, 08:34:28 AM
It seems like everywhere in the United States is getting a wave once and only once. Originally the Northeast plus Louisiana, then the Midwest plus Maine, then the Southeast plus California, and now it's the places that have had very few so far (AK, HI, MT, VT, OR) plus Arizona. Nobody seems to be getting it twice except possibly Louisiana. (The initial breakout in Washington wasn't large enough to count as one since it was so early.)
I think this is counting chickens before they hatch.  I think the states where daily cases are currently increasing or stubbornly not decreasing are bound to start another wave due to lessening restrictions.
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Eth

Quote from: Rothman on June 14, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 14, 2020, 08:34:28 AM
It seems like everywhere in the United States is getting a wave once and only once. Originally the Northeast plus Louisiana, then the Midwest plus Maine, then the Southeast plus California, and now it's the places that have had very few so far (AK, HI, MT, VT, OR) plus Arizona. Nobody seems to be getting it twice except possibly Louisiana. (The initial breakout in Washington wasn't large enough to count as one since it was so early.)
I think this is counting chickens before they hatch.  I think the states where daily cases are currently increasing or stubbornly not decreasing are bound to start another wave due to lessening restrictions.

I've been starting to look at this more on the local level. Cases in Georgia as a whole appear to be increasing much like with the rest of the South (if maybe not at quite the rate of neighboring states). But if we look at the two cities that previously had major outbreaks, Albany and Gainesville, we're not seeing that same trend. Here are the Department of Health's numbers for Dougherty and Hall Counties (note that I'm looking only at the data outside the "14-day window" as the numbers from within the last two weeks are provisional):



Contrast those with Gwinnett County in metro Atlanta, which has not had such an outbreak previously:



So I think there may be something to the idea that once there's been a notable peak it doesn't seem to be happening again.

GaryV

Quote from: US71 on June 14, 2020, 10:49:16 AM
US is done with Covid-19 but it's not done with us.

Arkansas, as been previously stated, is reopening businesses while cases of Covid-19 are going up.

As attributed (probably falsely) to Mark Twain, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

That sudden spike in Michigan cases shown in the Time data in early June was because the state started counting "presumed" cases and deaths.  People had never been confirmed as having COVID by testing, but were presumed to have it based on symptoms.  Since they couldn't "presume" when those cases happened, they added them all at once, a nearly 10% jump.

hbelkins

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:47:42 AM
Has anyone on the forum tested positive for covid, or know someone who has?

A colleague of my supervisor who works in Lexington tested positive several weeks ago. I don't really know him well, but am acquainted with him. He has asthma and went to the doctor for asthma-related issues but wasn't presenting any of the major symptoms. His doctor asked him if he wanted to be tested, and he said, "sure, why not?" He was surprised to have a positive result. He never did develop symptoms and has since recovered.

We have one person in my county that's tested positive. This was a child who was tested in advance of a medical procedure. Interestingly enough, the parents tested negative.
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My gym posted a couple updates on their website after being open for a couple days:

-  Masks are recommended during workouts but not required.  That "recommend"  line is brand new. 
-  Now members are supposed to wipe down their bench/machine before they use it and not just after. 

I'll probably be heading over at 7 AM after I run and eat tomorrow morning.  It will be interesting to see if the crowd has tapered any, especially after when rush hour begins.

Bruce

Quote from: 1 on June 14, 2020, 08:34:28 AM
It seems like everywhere in the United States is getting a wave once and only once. Originally the Northeast plus Louisiana, then the Midwest plus Maine, then the Southeast plus California, and now it's the places that have had very few so far (AK, HI, MT, VT, OR) plus Arizona. Nobody seems to be getting it twice except possibly Louisiana. (The initial breakout in Washington wasn't large enough to count as one since it was so early.)

We still haven't left the first wave.
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CoreySamson

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:47:42 AM
Has anyone on the forum tested positive for covid, or know someone who has?

I have only so far met one person who has, a coworker who had it at the beginning of May but recovered before work reopened. She didn't have any of the stereotypical symptoms, just a crippling fatigue.

One of my coworkers went home halfway through Saturday night's shift with sudden onset of what could be covid symptoms (muscle soreness, shortness of breath). I'm alarmed because he came over to my house Thursday afternoon, so it's likely that if he has it, I do too.

I have not tested positive, but I am pretty sure I had Covid back in the first couple weeks of February.

I believe that the Friday before the Super Bowl, one of my family members started feeling sick and she threw up. Turns out she drank some spoiled milk, but afterwards she still felt bad. Then on Saturday, I didn't feel right, and so did my parents.

That Sunday I was supposed to play piano at church, so I called in sick with my youth pastor. I texted him and he replied that a number of other youth group members, some of which were in the band with me, including my GF, had also called in sick that same day. That should have been a red flag.

I was sick on and off for basically the rest of the month. I had a headache, a fever, and a really bad wet cough. That cough never really went away for about a month. One of my parents also had chills and a temperature of 104 or so, so they went to the doctor. They were diagnosed with bronchitis (not the flu) and was put on antibiotics.

Interestingly, when they went to the doctor, the waiting room was full of people with similar symptoms.

My children's pastor had it really bad as well. She had the same symptoms as my parent, but also had pinkeye and I believe pneumonia.

I might have been Covid, but it could have been the flu. Just saying, I've had the flu before but it didn't feel like that.
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Duke87

Quote from: Eth on June 14, 2020, 01:27:40 PM
So I think there may be something to the idea that once there's been a notable peak it doesn't seem to be happening again.

Eh... all this really means is that the local outbreak subsided. It does not preclude the occurrence of a second local outbreak, but not enough time has gone by for that to have happened yet.

Local is the correct way to look at this though. Cases naturally occur in clusters, an outbreak 100 miles away from where you live doesn't necessarily mean your area is at comparable risk even if it is within the same state. But it does mean it's important to not interact with the people who live in the area of the outbreak.

Quote from: SectorZ on June 14, 2020, 10:21:34 AM
That's the strangest thing about it. It's bizarre seeing hundreds of people get together and there be no positive cases out of it in one place, and then another a huge chunk of people will have it. We've now had weeks of protests, mostly in cities that had the larger waves it, and next to nothing for a spike in cases.

Possibly important fact: protests are outdoors. Respiratory infections spread less readily outdoors because air movement disperses virus-carrying droplets.

Also possibly important fact: there is a very conspicuous correlation with where spikes are currently being seen and latitude. Places further south = places where it's hotter = places where people are more likely to gather indoors because it's not bearable without air conditioning.
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Scott5114

#4034
Quote from: Truvelo on June 14, 2020, 06:41:56 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:47:42 AM
Has anyone on the forum tested positive for covid, or know someone who has?

Whilst not actually been tested I believe myself, mom+dad have had it. Last December he was admitted to hospital with pneumonia. At around the same time mom lost her sense of taste and smell which is still not fully back to normal. As I am in close contact with them if they had it then it's almost certain I have too but I didn't display any symptoms. Although December is well before official cases were recorded outside China it is generally believed the virus was already in circulation overseas before the end of the year.

Quote from: CoreySamson on June 14, 2020, 08:07:36 PM
I have not tested positive, but I am pretty sure I had Covid back in the first couple weeks of February.

A lot of my coworkers caught something over the winter, so they (as well as management) believe they're immune to it. But then my coworker tested positive for it in May, so whatever was going around in December was not COVID-19.
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SEWIGuy

I have a friend who was really sick in December with Covid-like symptoms and swore he had it even though there was no evidence that could be the case.  He finally took an antibody test....and he didn't have it.

Even early February in Texas was more than likely a different resperatory infection of some sort. 

kphoger

Quote from: US71 on June 13, 2020, 11:23:40 AM

Quote from: bandit957 on June 13, 2020, 09:27:59 AM

Quote from: US71 on June 13, 2020, 09:26:36 AM
Arkansas has just reported its largest single day increase in coronavirus infections. Meanwhile, Governor Asa Hutchinson has approved going to Phase 2 citing the reduction of infections ,  which means restaurants can now open to 2/3  capacity vs 1/3 before.

I thought most of the cases there were from a prison in eastern Arkansas.

Apparently not.

Communiqué from work that was issued Thursday afternoon:

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The Arkansas Department of Health is reporting 448 new cases since yesterday's report. 49 percent of those come from Washington (143) and Benton Counties (78). Of the new Washington County cases, 93 percent are located in Springdale. The CDC team will be arriving tomorrow to assist the Department of Health with the breakout in NWA.

This was pertinent, because our regional office is in Springdale, and almost all of our work in that region is done in Benton and Washington Counties.

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:47:42 AM
Has anyone on the forum tested positive for covid, or know someone who has?

A friend's mom was in an assisted living facility and got it.  They determined it was a maintenance worker that happened to stop in the room one night passed it to her. After a few tough days, she improved and is fine now.

ET21

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:47:42 AM
Has anyone on the forum tested positive for covid, or know someone who has?

My aunt had it but has gotten past the worse symptoms. Few of my friends have been exposed and did 14 day quarantines. No direct exposure for me
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Bruce

Our malls have started reopening, with limited capacity at stores. Mask requirements are on a store-by-store basis, which is unfortunate given how many people aren't wearing them properly (if at all).

REI is at least doing it right. They had someone outside to manage the lines.

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Thankfully, I don't know anybody who has... at least anybody that I can remember.

Back in November some of my Wiki-Photography crusades brought me into Flushing, which as far as I know is still considered "the Chinatown of Queens," despite the influx of Chinese in other Queens neighborhoods from Jackson Heights to Bayside. This was one of my targets:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Post_Office_(Flushing,_Queens)

Around the time the news of the virus was spreading, I considered the possibility it may have been in the city sooner, especially in the various Chinatowns of the city. The worst problems I had to deal with since I got back from my time in the tri-state area were sinus problems, and I can get those even without traveling to and from the region of the country I consider to be my true home.

As of now, I haven't been tested yet... and I'm not really sure I want to get tested.


Scott5114

Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 16, 2020, 03:54:17 PM
As of now, I haven't been tested yet... and I'm not really sure I want to get tested.

It's not that bad. Unpleasant, but the unpleasantness lasts 30 seconds or so. It's probably not even as unpleasant as getting an injection.

It may depend on how experienced the person administering the test is, of course. When I was tested it was done by a nurse that had been standing outside doing drive-thru testing all day. A general practitioner who doesn't do nasal swabs very often may be a bit rougher.
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Brandon

Here's an interesting site tracking hospitalizations I came across.
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_5.html
You can even separate different groups and see the effects.
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#4043
I flew on Monday, to Jackson, Mississippi. I've done the drive enough and round-trip airfare was $189. Besides, I had to two hours south near the Louisiana border, so the whole thing would have taken me about 7 hours (over 5-6 hours, they let us book air travel). This was also because we have a flight to Seattle to visit family in three weeks, and this was a sort of test drive of what it's like for air travel right now.

The airports strongly suggest masks: maybe 60-70% wear them all the time. There seemed to be enough room for everyone to distance themselves, though people sometimes aren't very good at that. It's not hard to follow in single line lines, but some folks still insist on the phalanx formation in Atlanta. To be fair, the D concourse is the narrowest, but I also didn't have to take the little train or the underground hallway. So it wasn't very crowded...think 25-30% capacity at HSV (considering that many flights have been cancelled and consolidated) and 30-40% at Atlanta.

There's was a slightly longer line as there weren't as many TSA workers. The TSA asks you to lift up your mask after presenting your ID and boarding pass. You can bring up to 12 ounces of hand sanitizer; I don't need that much of it, just a few ounces. Carrying wipes is a must for rental cars and hotels; the TSA doesn't say how much they'll allow, but I was able to bring 10 folded Lysol wipes in a plastic bag with no issues. I put the sanitizer in a separate bag outside the usual items.

I typically fly Delta, but since I must look ahead to flights 6-8 weeks out, I have no allegiance to any airline right now. For one, flights in/out/returning (with decent layovers) are tough to find, so you get whatever is available. Also, airline loyalty has been extended throughout 2021 regardless of what you fly throughout 2020.

The gate agents would offer people masks, and ask that you put it on your face when boarding. The typical pre-boarders can go first (wheelchairs, people needing assistance, et cetera), but then they board the back of the plane first (by rows, in groups of five) then move up. If you're in first class, you board whenever you feel like. Overall, the flights were about 30-40% full, but they've blocked off about 50% of the seats in advance. I sat next to nobody on both flights.

The airline gave everyone a little bag with an 8oz bottle of water, a pack of cookies, almonds/granola bar, a single-serve packet of hand sanitizer, and a Purell wipe for your seat. The airplane actually looked fairly clean; usually there's crumbs, grease on the window panes, panels are rarely spotless. I suppose people are actually cleaning them up now, or the lack of flights means they have more time to clean them.


webny99

Thanks for the detailed post about your airport experiences! We're considering flying later this summer, so that's really interesting and helpful. It might ultimately come down to whether the 2-week quarantine upon arrival is still in effect, but nice to know that airports are creaking to life somewhat.

oscar

Quote from: webny99 on June 16, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
It might ultimately come down to whether the 2-week quarantine upon arrival is still in effect

Which state's? Hawaii? Alaska? New Mexico (for air travelers only)?
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My supervisor informed me that being the Fireworks that are traditionally held on Independence Day at the Washington Monument will be held thousands of miles away in Mount Rushmore National Park in South Dakota.  I do not know if that is true or not, but it does seem plausible being SD never had stay at home and social distancing during this whole pandemic. 

Plus DC has a stay at home plus the protests on Mr. Trump's doorstep and being no one wants to celebrate anyway as the tone from this racism and that the history of our nation is believed to have created it, many would not support it anyway.  In fact, this on the other hand would be a welcome change.  Not to stab DC in the back, but a change of location might just do some good.
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webny99

#4047
Quote from: oscar on June 16, 2020, 11:37:02 PM
Quote from: webny99 on June 16, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
It might ultimately come down to whether the 2-week quarantine upon arrival is still in effect

Which state's? Hawaii? Alaska? New Mexico (for air travelers only)?

Minnesota. Some friends went last week and decided to drive because they couldn't stay the (supposedly) required 2 weeks after air travel. However, I'm having trouble finding an official answer online as to whether that requirement ever was, or still is, in place.

kphoger

Quote from: webny99 on June 16, 2020, 11:47:24 PM

Quote from: oscar on June 16, 2020, 11:37:02 PM

Quote from: webny99 on June 16, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
It might ultimately come down to whether the 2-week quarantine upon arrival is still in effect

Which state's? Hawaii? Alaska? New Mexico (for air travelers only)?

Minnesota. Some friends went last week and decided to drive because they couldn't stay the (supposedly) required 2 weeks after air travel. However, I'm having trouble finding an official answer online as to whether that requirement ever was, or still is, in place.

I can find no record of Minnesota or New York having issued such a restriction.

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Reading customer satisfaction surveys for our field technicians, I've seen customers who...

(a)  ...are irritated that their technician didn't wear a mask when greeting them at the door or when passing equipment back and forth over the threshold, and wish more restrictive policies were in place;

(b)  ...are irritated that their technician wasn't allowed to come inside the home to actually troubleshoot firsthand, and wish less restrictive policies were in place.

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