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How Do You Divide The States?

Started by CoreySamson, December 29, 2020, 04:07:49 PM

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CoreySamson

I noticed in the Strangest State Borders thread that everyone divides the 48 contiguous states into regions a bit differently. For example, some people think Texas as a southwestern state, but I think of it as more associated with Louisiana and Arkansas. Reply with how you divide the states into regions below. Kinda interested to see how people divide the states differently.

Here's where I divide the states:
Northeast: Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Washington DC

Southeast: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee

Mid-South: Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma

Midwest: Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri

High Plains: North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Nevada

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Konza

Quote from: CoreySamson on December 29, 2020, 04:07:49 PM

I'll give this a shot:

QuoteNortheast: Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Washington DC

Southeast: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, Louisiana

Mid-SouthSouthwest: Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona.

Midwest: Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas

High PlainsWest: North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Alaska

WestPacific Coast: Arizona, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, Hawaii
Main Line Interstates clinched:  2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 37, 39, 43, 44, 45, 55, 57, 59, 65, 68, 71, 72, 74 (IA-IL-IN-OH), 76 (CO-NE), 76 (OH-PA-NJ), 78, 80, 82, 86 (ID), 88 (IL), 94, 96

frankenroad

And here's another take:

New England: ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, RI
Mid-Atlantic:  NY, NJ, PA, MD, DE, DC, VA, WV
South:  KY, TN, NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, LA
Midwest: OH, IN, MI, IL, WI, MN, ND, SD, NE, IA,  KS, MO
Mid-South:  TX, OK, AR
Mountain States: AZ, NM, UT, CO, WY, MT, ID, NV
Pacific States: CA, OR, WA, AK, HI
2di's clinched: 44, 66, 68, 71, 72, 74, 78, 83, 84(east), 86(east), 88(east), 96

Highways I've lived on M-43, M-185, US-127

Flint1979

I remember getting into an argument one time with someone that tried telling me that Michigan is in the Northeast, I told him he's wrong it's in the Midwest. That's just how you'd divide them I guess.

Rothman

Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: Rothman on December 29, 2020, 08:16:00 PM
We've so done this before.

Yeah, it always devolves into Midwesterners being ignored trying to set east coasters straight who insist ND/SD/NE/KS aren't part of the Midwest.

Rothman

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 29, 2020, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on December 29, 2020, 08:16:00 PM
We've so done this before.

Yeah, it devolves into Midwesterners being ignored by east coasters insisting ND/SD/NE/KS aren't Midwest.
...and no one agrees on MO.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

NWI_Irish96

Traitors: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas

Non-traitors: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota, California, Oregon

New: Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Washington, Alaska, Hawaii
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

cjk374

Quote from: cabiness42 on December 29, 2020, 08:52:26 PM
Traitors: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas

Non-traitors: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota, California, Oregon

New: Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Washington, Alaska, Hawaii

I bet this is the beginning of the end of this thread.  X-(  :no:  :angry:
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webny99

The proper way to do this is to start with the Big Four™: the Northeast, the Midwest, the South, and the West. And then, if you so desire, break it down into sub-regions from there.

Northeast

New England: Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont
Mid Atlantic: New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania


Midwest

Great Plains: North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas
Upper Midwest: Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
Rust Belt: Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio


South

South Atlantic: Virginia, West Virginia*, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida
Deep South: Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi
Mid-South: Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas


West

Mountain West: Montana, Wyoming, Colorado
Pacific Northwest: Washington, Oregon, Idaho**
Southwest: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah***


Other

Alaska, Hawaii




*I don't like West Virginia being included here, but don't know of a good alternative. An option might be to include both West Virginia and Kentucky under "Rust Belt".
**I stand to be corrected here, but I believe Idaho is considered PNW in most cases. It could also be considered part of the Mountain West.
***Utah is surprisingly hard to classify. Mountain West? Southwest? It doesn't fit neatly anywhere, but makes the most sense as part of the Southwest IMO.

corco

Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM

**I stand to be corrected here, but I believe Idaho is considered PNW in most cases. It could also be considered part of the Mountain West.


Generally people in Idaho and neutral third party observers consider Idaho to be part of the "Northwest" - the added modifier "Pacific" is sometimes used but that typically pisses people off that live west of the Cascades in Washington/Oregon and do not want to be associated with us rednecks east of the mountains, and certainly not those as far east as Idaho.

US 89

#11
Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
**I stand to be corrected here, but I believe Idaho is considered PNW in most cases. It could also be considered part of the Mountain West.
***Utah is surprisingly hard to classify. Mountain West? Southwest? It doesn't fit neatly anywhere, but makes the most sense as part of the Southwest IMO.

Utah and Idaho both should be Mountain West as far as I'm concerned. At least in Salt Lake, we identify way more with places like Denver or Boise than Las Vegas or anything in AZ, CA, or NM. Things may be different down in St George but that's true of the vast majority of the rest of the state.

Ben114

Northeast:
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, MD, DC, DE, VA, WV

Midwest:
OH, IN, IL, MI, WI, MN, IA, MO, KY

Great Plains:
ND, SD, NE, KS, OK

South:
NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, LA, AR, TN, TX

Southwest:
NM, AZ, NV

Rockies:
CO, UT, MT, WY

Pacific:
HI, CA, OR, WA, AK

GaryV


hotdogPi

Quote from: GaryV on January 08, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
Rust Belt
MN and WI are just as rusty as MI and OH.  Also PA.

The Twin Cities metro, which is over half of MN's population, is not rusty.
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US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

TheHighwayMan3561

#15
Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2021, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: GaryV on January 08, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
Rust Belt
MN and WI are just as rusty as MI and OH.  Also PA.

The Twin Cities metro, which is over half of MN's population, is not rusty.

On the flip side, the definition for some reason usually stops at Milwaukee when it should continue along the Lake Michigan shore up through Green Bay into the western UP, then west from Marquette along Lake Superior to Duluth and St. Louis County, and then northeast past the Lake/Cook County border in Minnesota to the ghost town of Taconite Harbor.

Scott5114

Northeast
Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont

Mid-Atlantic
Washington D.C., Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, and eastern West Virginia

Southeast
Alabama, Florida, Georgia, southern Mississippi, southeast Louisiana, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Tennessee
Moderator: florida

Midwest - Great Lakes
Michigan, northern Illinois, northern Indiana, northern Ohio, Wisconsin, eastern Minnesota, northwestern Pennsylvania, and western New York

Ohio Valley
Kentucky, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, southern Illinois, southwestern Pennsylvania, and central West Virginia

Mid-South
Texas, Arkansas, northern Mississippi, western Louisiana, and western Tennessee

Central States
Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Missouri, and western Minnesota

Mountain West
Arizona, Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming

Pacific Southwest
California, Nevada, and Hawaii

Northwest
Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska
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hbelkins

Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
The proper way to do this is to start with the Big Four™: the Northeast, the Midwest, the South, and the West. And then, if you so desire, break it down into sub-regions from there.

Northeast

New England: Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont
Mid Atlantic: New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania


Midwest

Great Plains: North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas
Upper Midwest: Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
Rust Belt: Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio


South

South Atlantic: Virginia, West Virginia*, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida
Deep South: Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi
Mid-South: Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas


West

Mountain West: Montana, Wyoming, Colorado
Pacific Northwest: Washington, Oregon, Idaho**
Southwest: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah***


Other

Alaska, Hawaii




*I don't like West Virginia being included here, but don't know of a good alternative. An option might be to include both West Virginia and Kentucky under "Rust Belt".
**I stand to be corrected here, but I believe Idaho is considered PNW in most cases. It could also be considered part of the Mountain West.
***Utah is surprisingly hard to classify. Mountain West? Southwest? It doesn't fit neatly anywhere, but makes the most sense as part of the Southwest IMO.

Kentucky is definitely not "Deep South." And no part of Kentucky, except possibly portions of Boyd and Greenup counties, give off any "Rust Belt" vibes. Neither does West Virginia, save the northern panhandle generally and Weirton specifically.

Also, I reject any assertion that Kentucky is part of the Midwest. Even the more midwestern-like parts of the state, the Purchase area and other portions of the western part of the state, have more in common with the South or Southeast than the midwest.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2021, 03:03:00 PM
Northeast
Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont

Thank you.  Anyone saying NY, NJ and PA is Mid-Atlantic is just looking at Wikipedia...or updating Wikipedia themselves.

hotdogPi

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 08, 2021, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2021, 03:03:00 PM
Northeast
Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont

Thank you.  Anyone saying NY, NJ and PA is Mid-Atlantic is just looking at Wikipedia...or updating Wikipedia themselves.

Scott5114 wasn't replying seriously. (Look carefully; something slipped by in the copy and paste.)
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

hbelkins

Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 08, 2021, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2021, 03:03:00 PM
Northeast
Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont

Thank you.  Anyone saying NY, NJ and PA is Mid-Atlantic is just looking at Wikipedia...or updating Wikipedia themselves.

Scott5114 wasn't replying seriously. (Look carefully; something slipped by in the copy and paste.)

That looks suspiciously like how the states are split up in the AA Roads Forum regional boards.  :bigass:
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Rothman

Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2021, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: GaryV on January 08, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
Rust Belt
MN and WI are just as rusty as MI and OH.  Also PA.

The Twin Cities metro, which is over half of MN's population, is not rusty.
The Iron Range is.  Literally.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
Scott5114 wasn't replying seriously. (Look carefully; something slipped by in the copy and paste.)

Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2021, 03:03:00 PM
...
Moderator: florida
...

Hmm... I've never heard of that region before  :bigass:

hotdogPi

Quote from: webny99 on January 08, 2021, 08:44:07 PM
Hmm... I've never heard of that region before  :bigass:

It might corresponded to a historical region (even though the region itself wasn't called Moderator), but I can't tell if this conflict was one land vs. another land or not. Even if it is, it's not in Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulator—Moderator_War
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

jeffandnicole

Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 08, 2021, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2021, 03:03:00 PM
Northeast
Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont

Thank you.  Anyone saying NY, NJ and PA is Mid-Atlantic is just looking at Wikipedia...or updating Wikipedia themselves.

Scott5114 wasn't replying seriously. (Look carefully; something slipped by in the copy and paste.)

Yeah, but no one in NJ considers NJ a Mid-Atlantic state.



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