Changing Control Cities

[kphoger]

Nobody should want to go to Pittsburgh. it will save peoples lives if they don't go to pittsburgh so Im helping people

Again its mainly because i lived there and a lot bad happened so thats why

Bad stuff happening to you that is presumably not the fault of the city is no reason why I shouldn't want to go there.

[Roadgeekteen]

From I-90, I-84 west is signed for New York City but NYC is not signed on I-84 in Conneticut.

[Scott5114]

Nobody should want to go to Pittsburgh. it will save peoples lives if they don't go to pittsburgh so Im helping people

Again its mainly because i lived there and a lot bad happened so thats why

Bad stuff happening to you that is presumably not the fault of the city is no reason why I shouldn't want to go there.

And, I mean, even if you have no desire to ever live in Pittsburgh, say you're a businessman who's developed a food product. Kraft-Heinz is interested in buying it. You have a meeting at their Pittsburgh headquarters, and stand to make millions if you can reach a deal. You decide to drive rather than fly because you're bringing a case of the food with you and it's perishable, so you don't want to risk it getting messed up by the airline. You can't find the way to Pittsburgh because it's not on the signs cause Angelo can't get over the fact that other people might have a reason to visit Pittsburgh.

[kphoger]

Right before the COVID hit the fan, a teacher friend of mine went to Pittsburgh for a work conference.  While he was there, the conference was canceled (due to the virus) and he spent his time visiting museums instead, then he flew back to Wichita.  He had a pretty enjoyable experience there.

[SkyPesos]

Isn't Pittsburgh gaining attention from a couple of tech companies too? Google has a large Pittsburgh office in Bakery Square, and I think Uber tests autonomous vehicles in the city too.

[HighwayStar]

Isn't Pittsburgh gaining attention from a couple of tech companies too? Google has a large Pittsburgh office in Bakery Square, and I think Uber tests autonomous vehicles in the city too.

None of that is going to fix the city, just short term band aid solutions.

[Scott5114]

Isn't Pittsburgh gaining attention from a couple of tech companies too? Google has a large Pittsburgh office in Bakery Square, and I think Uber tests autonomous vehicles in the city too.

None of that is going to fix the city, just short term band aid solutions.

It doesn't matter for the purposes of control city determination, though.

[empirestate]

I find Pittsburgh fascinating, it's actually very near the top of the list of cities I want to visit someday. I'm not even kidding.

It is fascinating, I lived there for a couple of years. Just getting around is great mental exercise, like a three-dimensional crossword puzzle. Definitely visit!

[Roadgeekteen]

Pittsburgh is a cool city road geek wise. My dad also grew up nearby.

[jmacswimmer]

From I-90, I-84 west is signed for New York City but NYC is not signed on I-84 in Conneticut.

It is signed for CT 15/TO I-91 south once you reach exit 57, and thru traffic leaving the Pike for I-84 will simply be continuing straight between those 2 points, so this seems fine to me. I think a similar discussion happened recently in another thread regarding Tulsa being used for I-44 in the STL area, but then disappearing for a while while heading west.

Pittsburgh is a cool city road geek wise. My dad also grew up nearby.

Agreed, all those bridges & tunnels...what more could a roadgeek want?

[SkyPesos]

Pittsburgh has my favorite urban interstate view; I-376 EB coming out of the tunnel and the CBD skyline is in front of you.

[Angelo71]

I find Pittsburgh fascinating, it's actually very near the top of the list of cities I want to visit someday. I'm not even kidding.

It is fascinating, I lived there for a couple of years. Just getting around is great mental exercise, like a three-dimensional crossword puzzle. Definitely visit!

Sickening. Pittsburgh is disgusting and this entire page is just about making me mad. I get it I'm evil, now everyone laugh and say how bad of a person I am

[Scott5114]

I find Pittsburgh fascinating, it's actually very near the top of the list of cities I want to visit someday. I'm not even kidding.

It is fascinating, I lived there for a couple of years. Just getting around is great mental exercise, like a three-dimensional crossword puzzle. Definitely visit!

Sickening. Pittsburgh is disgusting and this entire page is just about making me mad. I get it I'm evil, now everyone laugh and say how bad of a person I am

Maybe you should sit down and have a talk with someone about why the opinions of people you've never met about a city in a state you don't live in matters to you so much.

[Roadgeekteen]

I find Pittsburgh fascinating, it's actually very near the top of the list of cities I want to visit someday. I'm not even kidding.

It is fascinating, I lived there for a couple of years. Just getting around is great mental exercise, like a three-dimensional crossword puzzle. Definitely visit!

Sickening. Pittsburgh is disgusting and this entire page is just about making me mad. I get it I'm evil, now everyone laugh and say how bad of a person I am

I'm not trying to make you mad you are inciting this.

[Flint1979]

From I-90, I-84 west is signed for New York City but NYC is not signed on I-84 in Conneticut.

It also has Hartford on that sign. DOT's choose the control cities so Massachusetts probably chose to mention NYC and Connecticut didn't.

[Flint1979]

Who cares?

apparently these people since they are trying to make pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread

Talking about control cities is trying to make Pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread, wtf?

[Flint1979]

they are evil. i hope they can give me a personal reason on why virginia is bad.

Nobody seriously thinks Virginia is bad.

i don't understand why you are in love with pittsburgh

Who's in love with Pittsburgh? You're the one talking about it. If you think Pittsburgh is so bad I'd hate to see what you'd think of Detroit and Flint lmao. Pittsburgh is fine I've been there plenty of times and never had a problem there. Just because you had a bad experience there doesn't mean everyone else does too.

[Roadgeekteen]

Who cares?

apparently these people since they are trying to make pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread

Talking about control cities is trying to make Pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread, wtf?

Every control city is the best thing since sliced bread.

[Scott5114]

Who cares?

apparently these people since they are trying to make pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread

Talking about control cities is trying to make Pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread, wtf?

Every control city is the best thing since sliced bread.

Even Bloomsburg?

[Roadgeekteen]

Who cares?

apparently these people since they are trying to make pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread

Talking about control cities is trying to make Pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread, wtf?

Every control city is the best thing since sliced bread.

Even Bloomsburg?

Yes.

[Max Rockatansky]

Who cares?

apparently these people since they are trying to make pittsburgh seem like the best thing since sliced bread

No, we don't care that you personally hate Pittsburgh.  We're just pointing out that it isn't the worst place.

Hate Pittsburgh?  Great, take it to another forum.

oo what forum can i express my hatred for the city

Why is this a right now with new forum members?  Caught onto this bit of shenanigans after I saw the "sorry"  thread on the Fictional Board. 

I mean hell, I'm from Detroit and objectively speaking that is a way worse off place than Pittsburgh.  I don't hate the place though, I made and choice and moved away when I was an adult.  It might be in your interest to do the same, but it also sounds like you got some anger issues you are going to need to confront.  You're just in line to get steamrolled on this forum if you're here to tell people you "hate this and that." . 

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Am I the only one who remembers what the hell the purpose of road signs even is??

(city) shouldn't be a control city because it sucks and I want to pretend it isn't a real place.

[StogieGuy7]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

[Roadgeekteen]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

I think that he had a bad personal experience in Pittsburgh.

[StogieGuy7]

I think that he had a bad personal experience in Pittsburgh.

That would seem to be an understatement.