Largest metropolitan area without an x0 or x5 Interstate

Started by thspfc, December 13, 2021, 08:18:59 PM

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thspfc

Orlando and Milwaukee were the ones that came to mind for me.


hotdogPi

Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

mukade

Metro areas with populations > 1M without I-x0 or I-x5s:

22   Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA   2,673,376
35   San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA   2,000,468
37   Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA   1,799,674
40   Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA   1,574,731
48   Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown, CT MSA   1,213,531 (the CSA has I-95)
52   Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA   1,087,592
54   Urban Honolulu, HI MSA   1,016,508
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331
56   Fresno, CA MSA   1,008,654

San Jose has three x0 3di highways
 

hotdogPi

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
56   Fresno, CA MSA   1,008,654

I-5

And the Hartford MSA has I-95 even before considering the CSA.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

Scott5114

Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

I don't give a damn what the Census Bureau says, I-40 in no way serves Tulsa.
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MikieTimT

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2021, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

I don't give a damn what the Census Bureau says, I-40 in no way serves Tulsa.

Tulsa itself, kind of a stretch.  Tulsa MSA, since they're including Okmulgee County in it, apparently so.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
56   Fresno, CA MSA   1,008,654

I-5

And the Hartford MSA has I-95 even before considering the CSA.

I-5 definitely does not directly serve the Fresno Area.  I would argue I-95 and I-75 more indirectly serve Orlando than I-5 does Fresno. 

thspfc

Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
56   Fresno, CA MSA   1,008,654

I-5

And the Hartford MSA has I-95 even before considering the CSA.
In what universe, now?

Scott5114

Quote from: MikieTimT on December 13, 2021, 09:45:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2021, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

I don't give a damn what the Census Bureau says, I-40 in no way serves Tulsa.

Tulsa itself, kind of a stretch.  Tulsa MSA, since they're including Okmulgee County in it, apparently so.

I'd say including that part of Okmulgee County is kind of a stretch. I think Henryetta's existence is tied more to I-40 than it is to Tulsa. Other places further north in Okmulgee County make more sense to be included as part of the Tulsa MSA.
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SkyPesos

Pittsburgh could have either 0, 1 or 2 x0s, depending on who you ask.

mukade

I had Pittsburgh in my original list, but when you look at a map, I-70 clearly goes through the metro area.

thspfc

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 10:33:53 PM
I had Pittsburgh in my original list, but when you look at a map, I-70 clearly goes through the metro area.
I-70 arguably does, I-80 obviously does not.

bing101

#12
Honolulu, Hi is one of them.


All of their interstates are H1, H2, H3 designation.


Boise, ID because its main interstate is I-84.


Montpelier, VT is another one where I-89 is the major route in the area.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_Charleston,_West_Virginia


Charleston, WV has I-64, I-77, and I-79








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SkyPesos

On a side note, what would be the smallest with both a x0 and x5?

Cove Fort, maybe?

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: SkyPesos on December 14, 2021, 01:48:25 AM
On a side note, what would be the smallest with both a x0 and x5?

Cove Fort, maybe?

The site has no permanent population, so that's arguably it.

Cities with under 20K:

Buffalo, WY (25/90; under 5K population)
Lake City (10/75)
Albert Lea (35/90)

Flint1979

Quote from: 1 on December 13, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
55   Tulsa, OK MSA   1,015,331

I-40

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
56   Fresno, CA MSA   1,008,654

I-5

And the Hartford MSA has I-95 even before considering the CSA.
Neither one serves Tulsa or Fresno.

GaryV

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM

52   Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA   1,087,592


Why is it called Grand Rapids-Kentwood when Wyoming has a population 50% greater than Kentwood?

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
Metro areas with populations > 1M without I-x0 or I-x5s:

40   Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA   1,574,731


I-94 is not technically an x0, but it functions like one.
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

bassoon1986

Quote from: cabiness42 on December 14, 2021, 07:42:31 AM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
Metro areas with populations > 1M without I-x0 or I-x5s:

40Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA1,574,731


I-94 is not technically an x0, but it functions like one.
It's like the actual I-90, since there is no interstate 50 or 60.


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Flint1979

Quote from: GaryV on December 14, 2021, 07:28:45 AM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM

52   Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA   1,087,592


Why is it called Grand Rapids-Kentwood when Wyoming has a population 50% greater than Kentwood?
Not sure but Wyoming is included as a principal city in the GR metro area.

CNGL-Leudimin

Tulsa and Fresno are good examples of how the definition of core-based statistical area (by using only county or county-equivalent lines) is flawed. But those are nowhere near those of Denver-Aurora-Lakewood (which extends all the way to just outside Limon) or Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario (which includes far flung communities like Needles or Blythe, which in no way can be considered part of the Inland Empire). The latter could be better defined by using the boundaries of NWS San Diego's county warning area, which includes the truly urban parts of San Bernardino and Riverside counties.
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achilles765

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 14, 2021, 01:53:05 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 14, 2021, 01:48:25 AM
On a side note, what would be the smallest with both a x0 and x5?

Cove Fort, maybe?

The site has no permanent population, so that's arguably it.

Cities with under 20K:

Buffalo, WY (25/90; under 5K population)
Lake City (10/75)
Albert Lea (35/90)

If we are talking populated places, how about LaPlace Louisiana for I 10 and I 55. Or Lake City Florida for I 10 and I 75.

Some other cities without an x5 or x0...
Wait. Question. Is it cities without either or without one of the two?
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on December 14, 2021, 08:56:51 AM
Tulsa and Fresno are good examples of how the definition of core-based statistical area (by using only county or county-equivalent lines) is flawed. But those are nowhere near those of Denver-Aurora-Lakewood (which extends all the way to just outside Limon) or Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario (which includes far flung communities like Needles or Blythe, which in no way can be considered part of the Inland Empire). The latter could be better defined by using the boundaries of NWS San Diego's county warning area, which includes the truly urban parts of San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

Exactly, I-5 hits Fresno County but doesn't touch any major communities much less has a sphere of influence on traffic to the City of Fresno. Most people who use I-5 out of Fresno aren't even going hit it until Wheeler Ridge or Sacramento.

roadman65

Quote from: cabiness42 on December 14, 2021, 07:42:31 AM
Quote from: mukade on December 13, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
Metro areas with populations > 1M without I-x0 or I-x5s:

40   Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA   1,574,731


I-94 is not technically an x0, but it functions like one.

Then you have I-45 that doesn't act like it should an is an intrastate serving two major Texas Metro Areas.
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