Best resturants to have in service plazas?

[kphoger]

As to that second one... 

If you tell me you did some testing yourself with a homemade rig...  then I'm going to be rather skeptical.

Its not that hard make a crude Geiger counter that will pick up on radon allowing for relative comparisons. Now making one that can produce accurate readings in Curie Per Liter is another matter entirely.

Yeah, but how did you get it close enough to the First Lady?

[jeffandnicole]

They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

Please at least offer us a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

The only source I have on this is private conversations with people that were around at the time. Take it or leave it.

I thought Ken Jennings was our most notable member.  HighwayStar having classified discussions regarding pay phone removals with people that are no longer around may eclipse that.

[Rothman]

They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

Please at least offer us a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

The only source I have on this is private conversations with people that were around at the time. Take it or leave it.

I was around at the time.  I'll leave it.

Barbed Wire Guy is now Barbed Wire Conspiracy Guy.

[Scott5114]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

[jeffandnicole]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell. 

[Scott5114]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell. 

Right, but Kyle was specifically saying "you should know that breakfast places may not be open for dinner". The problem is you may not necessarily know if something is a breakfast place or not. This isn't as much of a problem for other restaurants. If you don't have a clue what a Quizno's or Bojangles is, you can at least go there during normal business hours and it will be open so you can find out.

(Arby's is a respelling of "RBs" for "roast beef", not that one can glean that from the name "Arby's" alone unless they have heard that factoid before.)

[CtrlAltDel]

(Arby's is a respelling of "RBs" for "roast beef", not that one can glean that from the name "Arby's" alone unless they have heard that factoid before.)

Apparently RB refers to the founders of the restaurant, the Raffel Brothers, at least according to this introduction to an interview with one of those founders. Perhaps it's a happy coincidence, though.

[GCrites]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell. 

Right, but Kyle was specifically saying "you should know that breakfast places may not be open for dinner". The problem is you may not necessarily know if something is a breakfast place or not. This isn't as much of a problem for other restaurants. If you don't have a clue what a Quizno's or Bojangles is, you can at least go there during normal business hours and it will be open so you can find out.

(Arby's is a respelling of "RBs" for "roast beef", not that one can glean that from the name "Arby's" alone unless they have heard that factoid before.)

Back in my day all you got was a sign with a fork, plate and spoon -- if you were lucky.

[SectorZ]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell.

You mean to tell me a spread-eagle two-legged mermaid doesn't specify it's a coffee shop?

[HighwayStar]

They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

Please at least offer us a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

The only source I have on this is private conversations with people that were around at the time. Take it or leave it.

I was around at the time.  I'll leave it.

Barbed Wire Guy is now Barbed Wire Conspiracy Guy.

By around" I obviously don't mean people that were merely extant, but those who were working in the industry and would know.

[HighwayStar]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell.

You mean to tell me a spread-eagle two-legged mermaid doesn't specify it's a coffee shop?

If you smoke the requisite amount of dope it might, keep in mind that chain came out of Seattle.

[vdeane]

I think it's pretty reasonable for people to expect the following:
1.  Burger joints might not be open for breakfast.
2.  Donut shops might not be open for dinner.
3.  Some places might be closed on Sundays.

With that in mind, a sub sandwich shop like Jimmy John's should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve breakfast:  why should people expect them to?  Similarly, breakfast chains (like Jiimmy's Egg or First Watch) that close in the early afternoon should still have a place on the sign, even if they don't serve supper:  why should people expect them to?

This presupposes that a driver will be familiar with what sort of restaurant each logo on the sign corresponds to, and can accurately guess as to what impact that might have on the business's hours of operation. Jimmy's Egg has a clue in the name that it might be a breakfast place, but First Watch is an oblique enough name that I might not think it was if I hadn't heard of it from my grandma going there. And then the name "International House of Pancakes" screams "we are only open during breakfast hours", but they're a famously 24-hour establishment. Meanwhile "Jimmy John's" could well be a hardware store or transmission shop from how well the name conveys what kind of business it is.

Being the logo will be placed on a blue highway sign that says "FOOD", that should help narrow down the products sold at the business.

Finding a generic sign on the web, https://images.app.goo.gl/X5xAEYr67XYxDXeW8 , notice that at least 3 logos hope you are familiar enough with the logo to know the food it represents.  And expand beyond that...Arby's, Bojangles, Quiznos, etc... all are names with logos that don't tell you what they sell. 

Right, but Kyle was specifically saying "you should know that breakfast places may not be open for dinner". The problem is you may not necessarily know if something is a breakfast place or not. This isn't as much of a problem for other restaurants. If you don't have a clue what a Quizno's or Bojangles is, you can at least go there during normal business hours and it will be open so you can find out.

(Arby's is a respelling of "RBs" for "roast beef", not that one can glean that from the name "Arby's" alone unless they have heard that factoid before.)

Not only that, knowledge of what type of restaurant isn't enough.  Subway, for example, is a sub place, but it also has a breakfast menu, or at least they used to pre-COVID; they've cut their hours too.  So not only does one need to know on a per-restaurant basis, that per-restaurant basis isn't even constant.

[Rothman]

They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

Please at least offer us a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

The only source I have on this is private conversations with people that were around at the time. Take it or leave it.

I was around at the time.  I'll leave it.

Barbed Wire Guy is now Barbed Wire Conspiracy Guy.

By around" I obviously don't mean people that were merely extant, but those who were working in the industry and would know.

Ah yes, the Wichita Lineman...

[HighwayStar]

Not only that, knowledge of what type of restaurant isn't enough.  Subway, for example, is a sub place, but it also has a breakfast menu, or at least they used to pre-COVID; they've cut their hours too.  So not only does one need to know on a per-restaurant basis, that per-restaurant basis isn't even constant.

In the case of Subway no special knowledge is needed, you just need to know that you should not eat there.

[oscar]

Subway, for example, is a sub place, but it also has a breakfast menu, or at least they used to pre-COVID; they've cut their hours too.  So not only does one need to know on a per-restaurant basis, that per-restaurant basis isn't even constant.

Subway stores still have breakfast offerings, though I rarely get breakfast from Subway (I think that happened only once, when my hotel/motel had lousy breakfast options, and the usual fast-food suspects like McDs didn't exist in that town). Their hours are not real reliable, and usually I'm asking for trouble if don't have a Subway sandwich in my cooler by 7-8pm. But other chains' stores, even in turnpike service plazas, lately have also had short hours, and sometimes they further shorten the hours depending on staffing availability. With widespread staff shortages and supply chain issues, travelers just have to lower their expectations, until we return to something resembling pre-Covid normalcy.

[GCrites]

Area Man Holding Out Until Next Exit For Better Fast Food Options

ERIE, PA–Local fast food consumer and occasional motorist Don Turnbee announced his decision Wednesday to bypass I-79's Greenville exit in hopes that the following turnoff would lead to more appealing fast food options...

...While holding out for a superior option, Turnbee has passed on multiple eating opportunities, including a Long John Silver's at the Conneaut Lake exit, a Roy Rogers in Saegertown, and an entire fast food plaza off exit 147A containing an Arby's, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Quiznos, Burger King, and Starbucks.

"I'm not turning off for a Starbucks," Turnbee said of the coffeehouse chain. "Starbucks isn't food."

https://www.theonion.com/area-man-holding-out-until-next-exit-for-better-fast-fo-1819570400

[Ted$8roadFan]

Area Man Holding Out Until Next Exit For Better Fast Food Options

ERIE, PA–Local fast food consumer and occasional motorist Don Turnbee announced his decision Wednesday to bypass I-79's Greenville exit in hopes that the following turnoff would lead to more appealing fast food options...

...While holding out for a superior option, Turnbee has passed on multiple eating opportunities, including a Long John Silver's at the Conneaut Lake exit, a Roy Rogers in Saegertown, and an entire fast food plaza off exit 147A containing an Arby's, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Quiznos, Burger King, and Starbucks.

"I'm not turning off for a Starbucks," Turnbee said of the coffeehouse chain. "Starbucks isn't food."

https://www.theonion.com/area-man-holding-out-until-next-exit-for-better-fast-fo-1819570400

He'll be holding out for a long time 

[CtrlAltDel]

While holding out for a superior option, Turnbee has passed on multiple eating opportunities, including a Long John Silver's at the Conneaut Lake exit, a Roy Rogers in Saegertown, and an entire fast food plaza off exit 147A containing an Arby's, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Quiznos, Burger King, and Starbucks.

This hits a little too close to home. 

[skluth]

Its been several years since I found a working payphone. They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

This may be the most bullsh*t statement I've ever read on this board. Please provide evidence or I'll just attribute this to more Highway Star internet-induced paranoia statement. That statement is an insult to me and every other person who works or has worked national security. Considering some two million Americans hold a security clearance, that's one big lie in which you're implicating on a lot of loyal Americans.

[SectorZ]

Its been several years since I found a working payphone. They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

This may be the most bullsh*t statement I've ever read on this board. Please provide evidence or I'll just attribute this to more Highway Star internet-induced paranoia statement. That statement is an insult to me and every other person who works or has worked national security. Considering some two million Americans hold a security clearance, that's one big lie in which you're implicating on a lot of loyal Americans.

What does the payphone thing have to do with security clearances? Most payphones have been killed off because they were being used in drug dealing. I don't think 9/11 has to do with it, the proliferation of cell phones (which somewhat coincides by coincidence with 9/11 era-wise) does, because thru the 2000's very few people were using them to begin with.

[vdeane]

Subway, for example, is a sub place, but it also has a breakfast menu, or at least they used to pre-COVID; they've cut their hours too.  So not only does one need to know on a per-restaurant basis, that per-restaurant basis isn't even constant.

Subway stores still have breakfast offerings, though I rarely get breakfast from Subway (I think that happened only once, when my hotel/motel had lousy breakfast options, and the usual fast-food suspects like McDs didn't exist in that town). Their hours are not real reliable, and usually I'm asking for trouble if don't have a Subway sandwich in my cooler by 7-8pm. But other chains' stores, even in turnpike service plazas, lately have also had short hours, and sometimes they further shorten the hours depending on staffing availability. With widespread staff shortages and supply chain issues, travelers just have to lower their expectations, until we return to something resembling pre-Covid normalcy.

Around here, the cut hours are in the morning.  The local Subway near me used to be open for breakfast, but now they're not open until 9.  And when I was clinching roads on Long Island last October, I tried to get a breakfast sub and was told that they're no longer on the menu.

[skluth]

Its been several years since I found a working payphone. They have been trying to get rid of them ever since 9/11 because too much funny business goes on when you can't monitor who is calling who.

This may be the most bullsh*t statement I've ever read on this board. Please provide evidence or I'll just attribute this to more Highway Star internet-induced paranoia statement. That statement is an insult to me and every other person who works or has worked national security. Considering some two million Americans hold a security clearance, that's one big lie in which you're implicating on a lot of loyal Americans.

What does the payphone thing have to do with security clearances? Most payphones have been killed off because they were being used in drug dealing. I don't think 9/11 has to do with it, the proliferation of cell phones (which somewhat coincides by coincidence with 9/11 era-wise) does, because thru the 2000's very few people were using them to begin with.

He also posted this in a separate post (highlight mine)

They likely would have declined either way, but various sticks and carrots were applied to ensure that they went away as quickly as possible after 9/11, anyone who worked in the national security space in that time would be familiar with that.

[HighwayStar]

Subway, for example, is a sub place, but it also has a breakfast menu, or at least they used to pre-COVID; they've cut their hours too.  So not only does one need to know on a per-restaurant basis, that per-restaurant basis isn't even constant.

Subway stores still have breakfast offerings, though I rarely get breakfast from Subway (I think that happened only once, when my hotel/motel had lousy breakfast options, and the usual fast-food suspects like McDs didn't exist in that town). Their hours are not real reliable, and usually I'm asking for trouble if don't have a Subway sandwich in my cooler by 7-8pm. But other chains' stores, even in turnpike service plazas, lately have also had short hours, and sometimes they further shorten the hours depending on staffing availability. With widespread staff shortages and supply chain issues, travelers just have to lower their expectations, until we return to something resembling pre-Covid normalcy.

Around here, the cut hours are in the morning.  The local Subway near me used to be open for breakfast, but now they're not open until 9.  And when I was clinching roads on Long Island last October, I tried to get a breakfast sub and was told that they're no longer on the menu.

Well no loss there, Subway is hardly a breakfast destination.

[Scott5114]

Hearing how much HighwayStar hates Subway kind of makes me want to eat there more.

[NWI_Irish96]

Hearing how much HighwayStar hates Subway kind of makes me want to eat there more.

They should build one on I-70 in Baltimore.