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Clues but No Full Account of Order That Turned a N.J. Town Into a Parking Lot

Started by cpzilliacus, December 10, 2013, 09:25:02 AM

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NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".


corco


NE2

Quote from: corco on January 17, 2014, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 17, 2014, 03:01:37 PM
PS: NBC isn't MSNBC. Dumbfucks.

Yes it is. Dumbfuck.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/48180815/ns/business-us_business/t/msnbccom-becomes-nbcnewscom/

No it's not. Cockbag.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/business/media/07msnbc.html
QuoteBut according to internal memorandums obtained by The New York Times this week, the parents have concluded that the brand known as msnbc.com, a strictly objective news site, is widely confused with MSNBC, the cable television channel that has taken a strongly liberal bent in recent years.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

corco


vdeane

Quote from: Brandon on January 17, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 17, 2014, 01:15:04 AM
NBC isn't the liberal media. MSNBC is barely to left of center.

MSNBC is as far to the left as Fox is to the right.  Your view is distorted.
By not limiting the political spectrum to American politics?

Quote from: Sykotyk on January 17, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
I've been across the GWB many times, day and night. And can never remember seeing the cash lanes that bare. Was there a big accident up the road that the GSV car missed? Though I've always used the EZ Pass lanes to the far left, it still was always backed up enough to start slowing down traffic before the road widened for the toll booths.
Could have been a Sunday morning; that's when I clinched that part of I-95, at it was smooth sailing across NYC.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Mr. Matté

Quote from: vdeane on January 17, 2014, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: Sykotyk on January 17, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
I've been across the GWB many times, day and night. And can never remember seeing the cash lanes that bare. Was there a big accident up the road that the GSV car missed? Though I've always used the EZ Pass lanes to the far left, it still was always backed up enough to start slowing down traffic before the road widened for the toll booths.
Could have been a Sunday morning; that's when I clinched that part of I-95, at it was smooth sailing across NYC.

Based on the date of August 2011, it could have been right before or after Irene came through. I know around Plainsboro's GSVs, the imagery was taken in August 2011, roads are empty, and there's big puddles all around.

bing101


bing101

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-usa-politics-christie-idUSBREA0F16P20140117

Now the state senate and assembly  has served  Twenty New Jersey officials, including top aides to Governor Chris Christie, were served with subpoenas on Friday as the state assembly begins its investigation into a massive bridge traffic jam that was apparently politically motivated.

Reuters.


formulanone


Alps

Removed off-topic post that duplicates a repeat post in a separate thread, which was locked


hbelkins

Quote from: bugo on January 16, 2014, 11:29:19 PM
Nope.  The jury (the American public) has already found him guilty.  He might not have ordered it but he still is responsible for the actions of his administration.  Where there's smoke, there's fire, and Trenton is full of smoke these days.

By my "jury is still out" comment, I was referring to whether or not he was personally responsible for ordering it or had any prior knowledge of it happening. That's what's relevant, not what public opinion says.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

1995hoo

I don't watch Jimmy Fallon (we fall asleep before he comes on and I'm not inclined to record the show), so I'm glad Backstreets.com posted the link to this:

"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

roadman

Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2014, 09:42:25 PM


Not a bad job rendering the signs...
Given that the cartoonist apparently lives in California (see the Sacramento Bee notation), the depiction of so many MUTCD compliant signs is indeed remarkable.
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

formulanone

Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
Given that the cartoonist apparently lives in California (see the Sacramento Bee notation), the depiction of so many MUTCD compliant signs is indeed remarkable.

That's only his most recent gig:

Quote from: Wikipedia
At age 17, Ohman worked at the Minnesota Daily, the student newspaper of the University of Minnesota. At age 19, Ohman was the youngest cartoonist ever to be nationally syndicated. His first daily newspaper job was at The Columbus Dispatch, where he was hired in 1981. He then moved to the Detroit Free Press in 1982, and went to The Oregonian in 1983.

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bugo

Quote from: hbelkins on January 22, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: bugo on January 16, 2014, 11:29:19 PM
Nope.  The jury (the American public) has already found him guilty.  He might not have ordered it but he still is responsible for the actions of his administration.  Where there's smoke, there's fire, and Trenton is full of smoke these days.

By my "jury is still out" comment, I was referring to whether or not he was personally responsible for ordering it or had any prior knowledge of it happening. That's what's relevant, not what public opinion says.

Public opinion is the only thing that matters.  If the public deems him guilty, they will not vote for him or even demand his resignation or impeachment.  It's how it works in the real world.

cpzilliacus

Opinions expressed here on AAROADS are strictly personal and mine alone, and do not reflect policies or positions of MWCOG, NCRTPB or their member federal, state, county and municipal governments or any other agency.

jeffandnicole

The fact remains...even though thousands of emails, text messages, phone calls, helicopter rides, smoke signals, sand writings, etc were looked at, not a single one shows that the Governor was ever involved.  Not even a blind carpon copy has been found with his name attached to it.

Many of his detractors have said he was aware of it, and many have said it will come out shortly that he was aware of it, but so far, no one has ever been able to directly link him to the incident, much less any knowledge of the incident.

Sure, the report was probably a waste of money, and probably did nothing more than keep alive the incident in people's minds.

roadman65

It is back in the news I see after 2 months.    I see that it raised flames here with the usual liberal verses conservative propaganda, however as I see it both sides think that he is guilty.  Rush Limbaugh was happy to hear when evidence came up against him for the traffic nightmare.  When you have someone so far to the right as Mr. Limbaugh who wipes the butts of all Republicans (who Christie is the last time I checked) glad to see him caught at this, then it cannot really be a partisan thing like many here think.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Pete from Boston

There is also the fact that Christie made nice with the president when New Jersey was devastated by Sandy, and some on the right never forgave him for it, particularly since it came immediately before the presidential election. 

SidS1045

Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2014, 11:43:14 AMRush Limbaugh was happy to hear when evidence came up against him for the traffic nightmare.  When you have someone so far to the right as Mr. Limbaugh who wipes the butts of all Republicans (who Christie is the last time I checked) glad to see him caught at this, then it cannot really be a partisan thing like many here think.

It matters not to Rush Limbaugh that Chris Christie is a Republican.  It matters a great deal to him that Christie does not follow the extreme right-wing line that Limbaugh espouses.  Rush is happy this happened to Christie because (according to Rush) it diminishes his chances of being able to mount a credible campaigh for president in 2016.
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." - Edward R. Murrow

cpzilliacus

N.Y. Times: Port Authority Chairman Resigns, Christie Announces

QuoteGov. Chris Christie of New Jersey announced on Friday that the chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, David Samson, has resigned, the latest fallout from the scandal surrounding the closing of several traffic lanes at the George Washington Bridge.

QuoteMr. Christie said he had discussed the matter with Mr. Samson and they agreed that new leadership was an essential part of reforming the multi-billion dollar agency. Mr. Samson's resignation is effective immediately.

QuoteMr. Samson, a prominent lawyer and close ally of the Republican governor, was appointed by Mr. Christie to the authority's board in 2011.

QuoteThe authority, which operates the bridge and other vital transportation hubs in the region, is overseen jointly by Governor Christie and Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York. It has an annual budget of $8.2 billion, and there are plans to spend another $27.6 billion in capital improvements over the next decade, larger than many state budgets.
Opinions expressed here on AAROADS are strictly personal and mine alone, and do not reflect policies or positions of MWCOG, NCRTPB or their member federal, state, county and municipal governments or any other agency.

Alps

Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 28, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
N.Y. Times: Port Authority Chairman Resigns, Christie Announces

QuoteGov. Chris Christie of New Jersey announced on Friday that the chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, David Samson, has resigned, the latest fallout from the scandal surrounding the closing of several traffic lanes at the George Washington Bridge.

QuoteMr. Christie said he had discussed the matter with Mr. Samson and they agreed that new leadership was an essential part of reforming the multi-billion dollar agency. Mr. Samson's resignation is effective immediately.

QuoteMr. Samson, a prominent lawyer and close ally of the Republican governor, was appointed by Mr. Christie to the authority's board in 2011.

QuoteThe authority, which operates the bridge and other vital transportation hubs in the region, is overseen jointly by Governor Christie and Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York. It has an annual budget of $8.2 billion, and there are plans to spend another $27.6 billion in capital improvements over the next decade, larger than many state budgets.
You don't reform an agency by cutting off the tip. You have to hack away at the roots.

J N Winkler

Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2014, 06:30:57 AMThe fact remains...even though thousands of emails, text messages, phone calls, helicopter rides, smoke signals, sand writings, etc were looked at, not a single one shows that the Governor was ever involved.  Not even a blind carbon copy has been found with his name attached to it.

The problem is really one of reputation--even if this search for a latter-day equivalent of the partisan order has come up dry, it is difficult to believe that Christie wouldn't have approved of the bridge closure if he had been informed, at least until it led to genuine political blowback that continues to threaten his chances in the 2016 presidential election.
"It is necessary to spend a hundred lire now to save a thousand lire later."--Piero Puricelli, explaining the need for a first-class road system to Benito Mussolini

vdeane

And given that his cover story has more holes in it than swiss cheese (and his body language during those speeches is very peculiar), you can't really prove that he wasn't involved either, and it is very much something he'd do.  Personally, I suspect that he was involved, wisely keeping this fact off the record, perhaps even with the understanding that Bridgit would take all the blame if word got out.
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