Longest crosswalk in America?

Started by tradephoric, January 15, 2012, 03:21:31 PM

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tradephoric

A new leader... a 220 foot crossing in Marietta Georgia.

South Marietta Pkwy SE & Powers Ferry Rd:


txstateends

Quote from: tradephoric on July 13, 2012, 09:33:24 PM
A new leader... a 220 foot crossing in Marietta Georgia.

South Marietta Pkwy SE & Powers Ferry Rd:


I can't tell how far that is all the way across with the corner island and right-turn curve, but that sure looks like a helluva long way to walk just to get across a street!!
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blawp

Vegas has some massive crosswalks across Las Vegas Blvd.

tradephoric

Crossing Las Vegas Blvd at Mandalay Bay (Diablo Ave.) is 155 feet long which is the longest crossing i've seen on the strip.  I was surprised to see only a 4 second walk time crossing Las Vegas Blvd at Bellagio Drive (a 145 ft crossing) and wonder why such a short walk time was selected especially when you have a mass of humanity crossing it each cycle. 

Here's a 200+ ft crosswalk at State Hwy. 78 & Brown St. in Wylie, Texas:


If this crossing adheres to all the guidance found in the 2009 MUTCD, it would require Brown St. to run 72 seconds when a pedestrian is actuated.  It's inefficient when the time required to safely fit the pedestrian intervals greatly exceeds the time required to clear out the vehicular traffic.  A 72 second wait for drivers along State Hwy. 78 seems quite long when only a few cars are trickling out of the side-street.   Looking at it another way, assume the volumes require a 75% (main) - 25% (side-street) split.  If the minor side-street requires 72 seconds, to achieve a 75% split for the State Hwy. the signal would need to run nearly a 300 second cycle length. 



tradephoric

In 2008, there was a 370 ft continuous pedestrian crossing at the intersection of Queens Blvd & 51st Ave in NYC.  The pedestrian crossing has since been re-striped farther back (and at slightly less of an angle, leading to a shorter 333 ft crossing) with "safety islands" now splitting the crossing into sections.

Queens Blvd. & 51st Ave (2008 aerial)


Queens Blvd. & 51st Ave (2010 aerial)


Examples of signage being used along Queens Blvd - which has been referred to as "Boulevard of Death" due to the high number of pedestrian fatalities that have occurred (88 pedestrian fatalities between 1993-2006). 


Anyone familiar with this intersection?  Would be interested to see if countdown pedestrians are being used and how much time the pedestrians are given to cross (walk interval, flashing don't walk interval, etc.). 



MASTERNC

Surprised nobody has mentioned the infamous Roosevelt Blvd in Philadelphia.  I know for sure there have been pedestrian fatalities.

tradephoric


jeffandnicole

Quote from: MASTERNC on February 08, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned the infamous Roosevelt Blvd in Philadelphia.  I know for sure there have been pedestrian fatalities.
In most cases, there's 4 channels of traffic (3 lanes each), but in between those channels are the medians.  Thus, the crosswalk is only about 50' or so. 

In many cases, the ped accidents occurred when they were jaywalking, mostly as a result of not wanting to wait another entire light cycle.

tradephoric

Here's a lengthy crosswalk near downtown St. John's, Newfoundland. 




JMoses24

Here's one, that will probably be bypassed after upcoming construction to create a SPUI...Kentucky 18 (or Burlington Pike) at Kentucky 237 (aka North Bend Road/Camp Ernst Road). 183 feet, weirdly configured. The kicker? There is NO sidewalk here, at all.


tradephoric

I always assume that there are plans to add sidewalk when you see an intersection like that with a painted crosswalk and no sidewalk, but then 5-10 years later nothing has changed.  There are a few examples i know of where the intersection has working push buttons but no sidewalks or painted crosswalks to speak of. 

Here's another example from Kentucky.  It's a 175 ft crossing but it seems like the crossing length could be reduced substantially if it was set back just a little bit farther (Richmond Rd & N Mt. Tabor Rd. in Lexington, Kentucky).

tradephoric

200 ft crossing (El Camino Road & Mission Ave near Oceanside, California):
https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.22584,-117.330979&spn=0.000895,0.000862&t=h&z=20

200 ft crossing (Appleton Ave & Menomonee Ave near Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin):
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.170235,-88.105045&spn=0.00078,0.000862&t=h&z=20

tradephoric

Another new leader!

A 230 ft crossing at Northlake Blvd. & Beeline Hwy. near Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.

tradephoric

Bruce B. Downs Blvd. & FL 56 near Pasco, FL

https://maps.google.com/?ll=28.185856,-82.353504&spn=0.000957,0.001206&t=h&z=20

Another long crosswalk from the great state of Florida!  This 225 ft crossing is long, especially considering the roads are perpendicular.


Brandon

^^ How many intersections have triple left turn lanes for each street!?!  Just wow.
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jakeroot

Quote from: tradephoric on January 24, 2014, 11:03:16 AM
Bruce B. Downs Blvd. & FL 56 near Pasco, FL
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Another long crosswalk from the great state of Florida!  This 225 ft crossing is long, especially considering the roads are perpendicular.

I glazed over the bit where you mentioned Florida, but I knew it was Florida instantly when I saw that there was 11 LANES on a non-freeway road, not to mention the all-way triple left turn lanes as Sir Brandon mentioned. I just don't see that very often (I want to distinguish myself from other road geeks because I'm sure there are wider, like that photo from Queens (but then again, I don't usually count the NE with its 400 year old roads and hamburger roundabouts)).

empirestate

Quote from: jake on January 24, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
...I don't usually count the NE with its 400 year old roads and hamburger roundabouts.

That's OK; we don't count Florida and the Southwest for essentially the same reason. :-D

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M3019C LPS20

Quote from: tradephoric on February 08, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
Anyone familiar with this intersection?  Would be interested to see if countdown pedestrians are being used and how much time the pedestrians are given to cross (walk interval, flashing don't walk interval, etc.).

Like most signalized intersections throughout New York City, this one in particular uses countdown inserts. The cross street clearance (flashing hand) is probably a little over 30 seconds.

tradephoric

Quote from: NE2 on January 26, 2014, 08:11:50 PM
I know this doesn't fit the purpose of this thread, but: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=26.961973,-82.063794&spn=0.031174,0.056691&gl=us&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=26.962067,-82.07139&panoid=ud-wGho0FcKQuBFw3HdiBg&cbp=12,280.83,,0,7.83

We have a winner!  By the way, i think i stumbled on some OSM edits you made  I just started playing around with the site and starting to see how powerful it can be.

Quote from: M3019C LPS20 on January 26, 2014, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: tradephoric on February 08, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
Anyone familiar with this intersection?  Would be interested to see if countdown pedestrians are being used and how much time the pedestrians are given to cross (walk interval, flashing don't walk interval, etc.).

Like most signalized intersections throughout New York City, this one in particular uses countdown inserts. The cross street clearance (flashing hand) is probably a little over 30 seconds.

On StreetView i didn't see any pushbuttons at the intersection of Queens Blvd. and 51st Ave..  I'm assuming the side-street would cycle 24/7/365 to service any potential pedestrian traffic.  A FDW of 30 seconds seems more than adequate for a pedestrian to get to the next closest refuge island.  However, if the walk is short (say 7 seconds) it could potentially take 4 cycles for a slow moving pedestrians to finish the crossing.  Would the walk time ever get that short at this intersection (say 3AM in the morning) or does the side-street always run long to prevent pedestrians from getting "stuck" in the medians? 




M3019C LPS20

Quote from: tradephoric on January 27, 2014, 04:12:02 PM
On StreetView i didn't see any pushbuttons at the intersection of Queens Blvd. and 51st Ave..  I'm assuming the side-street would cycle 24/7/365 to service any potential pedestrian traffic.  A FDW of 30 seconds seems more than adequate for a pedestrian to get to the next closest refuge island.  However, if the walk is short (say 7 seconds) it could potentially take 4 cycles for a slow moving pedestrians to finish the crossing.  Would the walk time ever get that short at this intersection (say 3AM in the morning) or does the side-street always run long to prevent pedestrians from getting "stuck" in the medians?

Pedestrian push buttons are seldom installed by N.Y.C.D.O.T. The only time they are in useful service is if vehicle detection is also in use at an intersection.

99% of New York City's signal controllers (both electro-mechanical and solid state) are pre-timed, so signal timings are rarely ever changed (a change would be considered upon a request sent to the offices of N.Y.C.D.O.T). With this in mind, everything operates the way it is 24/7/365.

jeffandnicole




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