Things you've always wanted to ask, but think it's not worth making a topic for

[roadman65]

Only under Eleventh Avenue where the center tube is aligned where the north tube was after it submerges on the NE corner of eleventh and thirty ninth does it really curve.  The center tube is straight otherwise east of the NJ turn and between eleventh and tenth avenues. Both center and south make than same curve on the Jersey side so it should be pretty equal.

[vdeane]

Note that it is impossible for the curve on the Jersey side to be the same length for both tubes as they are (roughly) parallel to each other (not on top of each other), and MC Escher did not design the tunnel.  This difference is, in fact, approximately 200 feet.

[ethanhopkin14]

What is the Mexico equivalent to the MUTCD and why is it almost the same as the MUTCD but just different enough to annoy you?

[J N Winkler]

What is the Mexico equivalent to the MUTCD and why is it almost the same as the MUTCD but just different enough to annoy you?

Manual de dispositivos para el control del tránsito.  And it is not really similar to the US MUTCD--no real freeway signing scheme, for example.  The latest edition dates from 1986 and the basic stylistic features, such as the Mexican alphabet series (similar in appearance but not identical to the FHWA series) and the Aztec arrow, date from the 1960's at least.

[ethanhopkin14]

What is the Mexico equivalent to the MUTCD and why is it almost the same as the MUTCD but just different enough to annoy you?

Manual de dispositivos para el control del tránsito.  And it is not really similar to the US MUTCD--no real freeway signing scheme, for example.  The latest edition dates from 1986 and the basic stylistic features, such as the Mexican alphabet series (similar in appearance but not identical to the FHWA series) and the Aztec arrow, date from the 1960's at least.

Yeah , I have never thought the BGSes look similar.  More like the stop signs and yellow diamond signs.

[webny99]

I think what I'm about to ask here is a good fit for this thread concept, however I acknowledge that it is a major bump, so please feel free to move to its own thread if warranted!

Anyway...

At a four-way intersection controlled by a two-way stop (where traffic on the major road is uncontrolled and traffic on the minor road has a stop sign), if one car in each direction on the minor road are stopped, waiting to turn in the same direction as each other, who has the right of way? Is it whoever stopped first, or is it always the person turning right? To add more complexity, what about cases where the person turning right can go but the person turning left can't? Should traffic turning right just keep turning even though they are technically going out of turn, or should they only go if the person turning left can't go, thereby paying attention to the traffic coming from their right when they wouldn't otherwise have to?

There's an intersection like this near my workplace so it's a situation I run into quite a bit and haven't been able to identify a foolproof solution. Sometimes the person turning left will just go right away if they stopped first, other times they'll see me waiting (turning right) and wave me on, other times they'll just sit there until I go. If I see that I have a gap and they don't, I'll always just go, but then I wonder how long they'll sit there if they don't eventually just start going in front of a right turner.

Any insight on the "correct" thing to do here is appreciated!

[Rothman]

Seems to me that if you're making a left turn that you have to yield to oncoming traffic to make it safely, unless you get to the intersection "long" before the other driver.

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This thread could be a good catch-all for the multiple silly question threads that have been popping up recently.

[mgk920]

I think what I'm about to ask here is a good fit for this thread concept, however I acknowledge that it is a major bump, so please feel free to move to its own thread if warranted!

Anyway...

At a four-way intersection controlled by a two-way stop (where traffic on the major road is uncontrolled and traffic on the minor road has a stop sign), if one car in each direction on the minor road are stopped, waiting to turn in the same direction as each other, who has the right of way? Is it whoever stopped first, or is it always the person turning right? To add more complexity, what about cases where the person turning right can go but the person turning left can't? Should traffic turning right just keep turning even though they are technically going out of turn, or should they only go if the person turning left can't go, thereby paying attention to the traffic coming from their right when they wouldn't otherwise have to?

There's an intersection like this near my workplace so it's a situation I run into quite a bit and haven't been able to identify a foolproof solution. Sometimes the person turning left will just go right away if they stopped first, other times they'll see me waiting (turning right) and wave me on, other times they'll just sit there until I go. If I see that I have a gap and they don't, I'll always just go, but then I wonder how long they'll sit there if they don't eventually just start going in front of a right turner.

Any insight on the "correct" thing to do here is appreciated!

Normally, the vehicle that is tuning right has the priority here.

Mike