New Jersey

[bzakharin]

There's a simple reason that there weren't interstate to toll road interchanges in many of these places.

From our friends at the FHWA talking about Breezewood:

> This peculiar arrangement occurred because of Section 113 of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. Under Section 113(b), Federal-aid funds could be used for approaches to any toll road, bridge, or tunnel "to a point where such project will have some use irrespective of its use for such toll road, bridge, or tunnel." In other words, a motorist could use the toll facility or not. Under Section 113 (c), the State highway agency and toll authority could use Federal-aid highway funds to build an interchange between a toll-free Interstate and an Interstate turnpike (i.e., the motorist would have no choice but to use the toll road). However, the State highway agency, the toll authority, and the BPR would have to enter into an agreement to stop collecting tolls when the bonds were retired.

> The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission (PTC), which had no desire to stop collecting tolls, decided not to use the State's Federal-aid funds for the I-70 connection. The PTC also decided against using its own revenue for the interchanges.

It's why the interchange between 80 and the NE Extension technically goes thru an intermediary road. That was also evident in the interchange between 84 and the NY Thruway for so many years. That law has since been modified to allow this, obviously, but these are vestiges of it.

So wait, according to the above, the interchange between I-70 and US 30 was federally funded, but the interchange between US 30 and the PA turnpike still had to be paid for by the PTC, right? So what's the difference whether the PTC built an interchange with US 30 or with I-70 if they had to fund it themselves either way (and the same question would apply for I-95 via US 13, I-78 via US 22, and I-80 via PA 940)?

[roadman65]

I see the 1-9 thing is being used now for the US 40/322 overlap in Egg Harbor.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aY72Wh6Y7wj5PMnN7
40-322 inside a single shield just like 1-9 in North Jersey.

[odditude]

I see the 1-9 thing is being used now for the US 40/322 overlap in Egg Harbor.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aY72Wh6Y7wj5PMnN7
40-322 inside a single shield just like 1-9 in North Jersey.

that one belongs in Design Errors for other reasons, too - no border around the sign, unnecessary horizontal dividers, the directional being a colored placard instead of just text, insufficient spacing...

[SignBridge]

Although I too dislike the "1-9" shield, that's not as bad as the ones that display "1&9" which as you approach it looks like "189" creating more confusion. Separate shields should be used.

[storm2k]

I see the 1-9 thing is being used now for the US 40/322 overlap in Egg Harbor.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aY72Wh6Y7wj5PMnN7
40-322 inside a single shield just like 1-9 in North Jersey.

That is almost certainly a SJTA install, since it's at the entrance to ACY and that's their territory. SJTA is not exactly known for high quality signage that remotely approaches MUTCD compliance. If you poke around at other sign installs along that stretch of roadway, you'll see that NJDOT uses two shields for everything.

[Dough4872]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/free-tolls-jersey-shore-memorial-day-atlantic-city-expressway/ Once again there will be free tolls for an hour on the Atlantic City Expresway the Friday before Memorial Day weekend.

[bzakharin]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/free-tolls-jersey-shore-memorial-day-atlantic-city-expressway/ Once again there will be free tolls for an hour on the Atlantic City Expresway the Friday before Memorial Day weekend.

I assume the sign in the article (and all the others that are covering this) is from the Farley Service Plaza. If so, it's been replaced at least two years ago (and judging by signage on the other side probably more like 6 years ago) with a more standard white on green sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5499751,-74.7364988,3a,39.4y,226.76h,92.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0lbAo34RhefEfheFJI_YVw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu

[Alps]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/free-tolls-jersey-shore-memorial-day-atlantic-city-expressway/ Once again there will be free tolls for an hour on the Atlantic City Expresway the Friday before Memorial Day weekend.

The free food is more attractive than the free toll in my book. (:

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dxj69Vnf6vShwL9p6
Signage reflects how us New Jersians always been calling the Garden State Parkway as simply " The Parkway."

[chrisg69911]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dxj69Vnf6vShwL9p6
Signage reflects how us New Jersians always been calling the Garden State Parkway as simply " The Parkway."

Another example, this time by the actual NJTA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gkcZ2nEo55R1EWiFA

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dxj69Vnf6vShwL9p6
Signage reflects how us New Jersians always been calling the Garden State Parkway as simply " The Parkway."

Another example, this time by the actual NJTA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gkcZ2nEo55R1EWiFA

Good find. That was actually copied over from an older assembly, but yes it's got the lingo down right.

[SignBridge]

Surprised they spelled out Parkway instead of using just the Parkway logo.

[NJRoadfan]

That sign on the NJ-17 South ramp predates the NJTA merger. It was there back in 2002, likely much longer.

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vY3j3jsYKibR7iZB6
This sign on the ACE looks relatively new.  I'm doubting the the SJTA is finally replacing the outdated old signs. I'm guessing this assembly was replaced, although had to be before GSV as all dates show it's been standing up for a while.

Is the SJTA ever going to do a total sign replacement ever?

Still using caps in many places like here at the GSP.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TV2FJxa9SwDguxFy5

BTW another Parkway signed moment.^^^

[ixnay]

Still using caps in many places like here at the GSP.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TV2FJxa9SwDguxFy5

BTW another Parkway signed moment.^^^

One whose first line reminds one of I-279 in Pittsburgh's North Hills.

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZGWhi7HLgSCyfKZp8
At least the ACE recycles exit tabs. Or in this one case anyway.

Interesting to see an old tab used over again.

[roadman65]

Was NJ 55 ever originally to bypass Glassboro to end at Route 42 in Bellmawr?

Some old Travelvision Maps from back in the seventies show the proposed freeway north of US 40 ( it ended there for quite a few years) to end at Route 47 north of Malaga.

[jeffandnicole]

Was NJ 55 ever originally to bypass Glassboro to end at Route 42 in Bellmawr?

Some old Travelvision Maps from back in the seventies show the proposed freeway north of US 40 ( it ended there for quite a few years) to end at Route 47 north of Malaga.

I've seen evidence on New Jersey's website that it was originally supposed to end at US 130 in Westville.  Never seen anything where it would've ended in no-man's lane near Malaga.

[ixnay]

Also regarding NJ 42 and 55... why is the ramp from SB 42 to SB 55 (per https://tinyurl.com/wdh8cry7 ) on a tangent rather than being a more sweeping, less sharp curve?  I don't see any evidence of wetlands that could have prevented that, although I guess Almonesson Creek must somehow be a factor.

[jeffandnicole]

Also regarding NJ 42 and 55... why is the ramp from SB 42 to SB 55 (per https://tinyurl.com/wdh8cry7 ) on a tangent rather than being a more sweeping, less sharp curve?  I don't see any evidence of wetlands that could have prevented that, although I guess Almonesson Creek must somehow be a factor.

Never sure why that median was built a little wide (maybe consideration in what would be needed for a train line to curve from down the median of 55 into the 42 area, which at the time also had a wider median), but it's not a sharp curve.  NJDOT never signed an advisory speed for the ramp which means that it can be taken at 55 mph from NJ 42 (which is also 55 mph), and in practice 65 - 70 mph is no issue there.

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/V3KLw6jaRGfmEUZH6
What's up with 6 followed by an empty space inside the CR shield?

[bzakharin]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/V3KLw6jaRGfmEUZH6
What's up with 6 followed by an empty space inside the CR shield?

Apparently it's been "future CR 643" for at least 20 years