Target no longer accepting checks as of July 15th, 2024

Started by ZLoth, July 07, 2024, 02:41:06 PM

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Max Rockatansky

I always wonder why those are necessary in modern times?  The line employees don't care about the daily sales forecast and the policy awareness stuff generally gets disseminated through alternate means like email or online training.


mgk920

IMHO, we can safely close this thread now.

Mike

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Rothman

Quote from: mgk920 on July 14, 2024, 11:48:22 AMIMHO, we can safely close this thread now.

Mike

Your opinion is noted and deemed incorrect.
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GaryV

Quote from: hotdogPi on July 13, 2024, 09:07:57 AMtheir own employees are called team members but the doors say employees only, not team members only

But if they don't mean only their employees, how far does that concept stretch? Many people are employees somewhere.

It's like I commented to someone at work once. There are "Visitors Only" parking spaces. I thought we should be able to park there. We're only visiting; we don't live at work.   :poke:


Max Rockatansky

Heh, I used to make jokes about living in my office.  I would occasionally be asked by an employee how many hours I was working because they saw me all the time in the Admin area.  I said the above instead of the actual 40-42 hours I usually work in the average week.

JayhawkCO

I don't miss my days as a restaurant GM working 60 hour weeks on the regular. When I owned the last hotel I worked at, there was one week where I worked 112. Never again.

Max Rockatansky

The most I was averaging was probably 55-60 hours a week my first year at Sears.  The reason for that was due to my store having super high inventory shrink, lots of internal theft and over twenty Workman's Comp claims.  The volume was around $60,000,000 circa 2005 which meant every problem was probably two or three times worse than the average store.  Once the weeds were cleared I was probably working 45-48 hours a week until I left in 2010.

vdeane

Quote from: hotdogPi on July 14, 2024, 09:13:20 AMAt Stop & Shop, we were called associates.

A specific term for "employee of the company, excluding vendors" is useful. I prefer "associate" over "team member".
Wouldn't it generally be understood that when referring to "employees" in a company context, it would be employees of that company, not employees of any company?  I guess I'm not sure why the term "employees" would be seen as including vendors.  Do the people who work for the vendor get directly paid their wages by the company they deliver to?  No, they get paid by the company whose products are being bought and delivered.  Therefore, they aren't employees of the company they're delivering to.

Quote from: mgk920 on July 14, 2024, 11:48:22 AMIMHO, we can safely close this thread now.

Mike
Why?
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: vdeane on July 14, 2024, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: hotdogPi on July 14, 2024, 09:13:20 AMAt Stop & Shop, we were called associates.

A specific term for "employee of the company, excluding vendors" is useful. I prefer "associate" over "team member".
Wouldn't it generally be understood that when referring to "employees" in a company context, it would be employees of that company, not employees of any company?  I guess I'm not sure why the term "employees" would be seen as including vendors.  Do the people who work for the vendor get directly paid their wages by the company they deliver to?  No, they get paid by the company whose products are being bought and delivered.  Therefore, they aren't employees of the company they're delivering to.

Quote from: mgk920 on July 14, 2024, 11:48:22 AMIMHO, we can safely close this thread now.

Mike
Why?
Quote from: mgk920 on July 14, 2024, 11:48:22 AMIMHO, we can safely close this thread now.

Mike

Sounds like you're not a team member.

Max Rockatansky

I wasn't advised of a thread closure at the morning huddle, nor did I sign a department training sheet. 

SectorZ

Like every Walmart has (maybe had - did 25 years ago), we need a store-specific cheer to end the AARoads  Forum Team Member morning/evening huddle. I worked in store 2222, and it ended with "Twenty-two, twenty-two, second best will never do". Someone here is smart enough to come up with something that could work. That way the thread doesn't need to be locked, it can be safely adjourned.

Max Rockatansky

Why would anything said in the last handful of pages lead to a lock?  There isn't anything risqué that has been said in all this talk about retail employment culture.

seicer

Someone mentioned earlier that you could write down cardholder information - and while that may be true, it should never be done. It was one of the biggest red flags that was thrown at us in two weeks of training (for a system we implemented). PCI DSS requirements specifically state that anyone writing down any cardholder information must secure the document, secure access, and destroy it afterward. Unfortunately, most of the time, when there is a breach of any paper information with cardholder information, it's stuff that's written down insecurely and left in someone's desk drawer or notecard.

And while there are PCI DSS requirements, any business or institution may have its own policies that fall on top of that. Ours specifically forbids anyone from writing down any cardholder information on paper, period. No exceptions.

Someone also mentioned the term point-of-sale versus register. The latter is an antiquated term that refers to a physical cash register; the former is generally a term for a system that can accept a form of payment.

Max Rockatansky

And yet, everyone who isn't a software or person deeply engrained into retail operations still calls them registers.

seicer

That's deeply subjective - "everyone" is not qualitative.

But let's actually use definable terms. A point-of-sale is a device used to process transactions by retail customers. A cash register is a type of point-of-sale device. The cash register has largely been replaced by electronic point-of-sale systems that handle multiple transaction types, such as cards and cash. In a more generic sense, a register is where customers pay, but these are connected to a point-of-sale system.

https://www.shopify.com/retail/cash-register-pos

I've only managed millions of dollars and dozens of point-of-sale components and have been ingrained in retail operations for seven years.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: SectorZ on July 14, 2024, 05:26:03 PMLike every Walmart has (maybe had - did 25 years ago), we need a store-specific cheer to end the AARoads  Forum Team Member morning/evening huddle...

Someone here is smart enough to come up with something that could work.

Yawn.

Rothman

Quote from: seicer on July 14, 2024, 09:41:43 PMThat's deeply subjective - "everyone" is not qualitative.

Not so deeply, albeit subjective.  A lot of people definitely refer to the machines as cash registers still.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: seicer on July 14, 2024, 09:41:43 PMThat's deeply subjective - "everyone" is not qualitative.

But let's actually use definable terms. A point-of-sale is a device used to process transactions by retail customers. A cash register is a type of point-of-sale device. The cash register has largely been replaced by electronic point-of-sale systems that handle multiple transaction types, such as cards and cash. In a more generic sense, a register is where customers pay, but these are connected to a point-of-sale system.

https://www.shopify.com/retail/cash-register-pos

I've only managed millions of dollars and dozens of point-of-sale components and have been ingrained in retail operations for seven years.

And how are you not an example of an operations person to which I was referring?  Come get me when entry level cashiers and customers start using "POS" as part of their day to day vernacular.

Big John


Max Rockatansky

Front lines is the one I hear most frequently for a bank of registers.  I always thought that term started to sound like a B level war movie if you listen to the store radio traffic too much.

1995hoo

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 14, 2024, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: seicer on July 14, 2024, 09:41:43 PMThat's deeply subjective - "everyone" is not qualitative.

But let's actually use definable terms. A point-of-sale is a device used to process transactions by retail customers. A cash register is a type of point-of-sale device. The cash register has largely been replaced by electronic point-of-sale systems that handle multiple transaction types, such as cards and cash. In a more generic sense, a register is where customers pay, but these are connected to a point-of-sale system.

https://www.shopify.com/retail/cash-register-pos

I've only managed millions of dollars and dozens of point-of-sale components and have been ingrained in retail operations for seven years.

And how are you not an example of an operations person to which I was referring?  Come get me when entry level cashiers and customers start using "POS" as part of their day to day vernacular.

I think a different way to view it is that it's similar to situations in which people routinely use a trademarked term as a generic term for a type of item. The one that most readily comes to mind for me (because my wife does it) is the use of "Kleenex" (a trademark owned by Kimberly-Clark) to refer to generic "tissues" regardless of what brand they actually are (we usually buy Puffs, which are a Procter & Gamble product). I suppose a similar example might be the Seinfeld episode when Jerry says George has a girlfriend, George disagrees, and Jerry asks, "Are there any Tampax in your apartment?" The use of the trademarked name to refer to the generic is not really right, but it's generally a waste of time to try to "correct" someone (though, with that said, Xerox waged a relatively successful campaign against the genericization of their name as referring to photocopiers). I can think of other instances of that sort of thing that don't involve trademarks. For example, to me (and to most people I know) the USPS employee who delivers the mail is the "mailman," regardless of whether said person is male or female.

The other thing this makes me remember is a scene in a book I read in which some characters are sailing somewhere on a ship and one of them says something to the captain about the "right" and the captain says it's "starboard." He replies, "To most of them, it's the right." Then he speaks to them and forgets and says "starboard" and one of them asks what that is; he says "right" and she asks, "Why didn't you just say that in the first place?"

In other words, saying "POS" to a customer is often likely to be a waste of breath because it's highly likely you'll wind up just clarifying that you mean the checkout or the register, regardless of which term is "right."
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hotdogPi

Quote from: 1995hoo on July 15, 2024, 08:13:44 AMIn other words, saying "POS" to a customer is often likely to be a waste of breath because it's highly likely you'll wind up just clarifying that you mean the checkout or the register, regardless of which term is "right."

"POS" has negative connotations that "register" doesn't.
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1995hoo

Quote from: hotdogPi on July 15, 2024, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 15, 2024, 08:13:44 AMIn other words, saying "POS" to a customer is often likely to be a waste of breath because it's highly likely you'll wind up just clarifying that you mean the checkout or the register, regardless of which term is "right."

"POS" has negative connotations that "register" doesn't.

To some people, anyway. As I noted up the thread, I told vdeane's "Car was POS" story to three work colleagues and one of them didn't get it because he didn't know of the scatalogical meaning often ascribed to "POS." (For what it's worth, he's in his early 60s; one of the other two guys is in his early 30s and the other is in his mid-20s.)
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
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