Wilshire Boulevard in MacArthur Park

[Plutonic Panda]

The way you're acting does serve as a motivator to be more in favor of closure projects like the one on Wilshire.  I'm sure it isn't helping your credibility with others when they keep seeing you top post rants on this board.

And I'm just OK with that. If the community at large really wants this section of the road closed then I support with the community wants at the end of the day. I don't wish to be a dictator. But it is my opinion this road shouldn't be closed. I don't know how to say it where it doesn't sound like a rant, I guess

[Plutonic Panda]

It's also funny like one of the first comments on this thread was "utterly stupid and pointless" And you conveniently skip that comment and the fact that I virtually gave no opinion at all in my original comment other than just ask what people thought, Only to turn around and then shit on me when I do give my comments and explain that I am somewhat passionate about this particular issue and this stretch of road. I know we've kind of butted heads in the past, same with CAHWYGUY, But I'm genuinely baffled at just how adamant you are about carrying on with me on this issue.

Again, again, if you don't agree with me, that's fine. I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me. I'm just really curious what your angle is here. At least when I argue with people like Rothman About getting my tunnel built under Syracuse, I can see where they're coming from and why they are taking the position they are.

But man, I really feel like if we were back in the days where we could have a street dual, You would've challenged me to one by now. lol

[Max Rockatansky]

And yet you somehow missed that I've said numerous times that I didn't think the closure here is necessary.  It would also be true to say that I don't think this closure is worth the battle fighting against.

I also said what my angle was yesterday.  You obviously missed all that when you were busy putting words in my mouth.  Maybe actually read what I actually wrote next time?

So yes, I don't understand the angst at hand.  This is such a small closure in the grand scheme of things and not the portend of an onslaught of forcible urbanism.  You clearly disagree but I can't help but feel it is largely because you stand to be nominally inconvenienced. 

[pderocco]

This closure proposal is so minor in the grand scheme of things. If traffic ends up being that bad, they can change 7th Street and 6th Street into one-way couplets around the park.

Should close those too to reconnect the neighborhoods.

Can't have them pushing buttons and waiting for Walk signals. Pretty soon they'll be speaking different languages on the two sides of Wilshire.

[mrsman]

Similar closures have occurred in other cities.  They all have survived.  It is easier in a city since the detouring is a very short distance.  And it is easier if they make certain improvements to make the turning along Park View easier.

Some examples:  6th Ave, 7th Ave, Lenox, St Nicholas, AC Powell are north south streets that are blocked by Central Park in NYC.  Now the park has been there for a long time, but you used to be able to drive on the park roads and it provided a mini-expressway (limited traffic signals) to connect Midtwon to Harlem.  About 15 years ago, the roads were closed to cars forcing detours onto other avenues.  Traffic yes, but no catastrophe.

5th Ave is blocked on its south by Washington Square park.  While this is an old arrangement, it is illustrative to see how a busy street can have traffic redirected onto other streets (like Broadway) to continue south.  Heck, Broadway's transformation and pedestrianization further uptown is also illustrative.

Public Square in Cleveland has gone through many iterations.  Roads through the park open, all roads closed, and then the current setup that allows only buses to go through E-W, and N-S traffic has to go around.

Security concerns in Washington DC has closed E Street and Pennsylvania Ave around the White House.  These are major streets with a lot of traffic and the diversions to Constitution or H and I streets are extremely busy.  But it is still manageable as people are aware of the closure.  For all intents and purpose, the White House grounds acts like a very large park.  Again it is manageable.

[SeriesE]

and a bit south, Mile Square Park in Fountain Valley cut off through access for Heil Avenue and Ward Street. Traffic just detoured around the park.

[Plutonic Panda]

And yet you somehow missed that I've said numerous times that I didn't think the closure here is necessary.  It would also be true to say that I don't think this closure is worth the battle fighting against.

I also said what my angle was yesterday.  You obviously missed all that when you were busy putting words in my mouth.  Maybe actually read what I actually wrote next time?

So yes, I don't understand the angst at hand.  This is such a small closure in the grand scheme of things and not the portend of an onslaught of forcible urbanism.  You clearly disagree but I can't help but feel it is largely because you stand to be nominally inconvenienced. 

Alright fair enough.

[mrsman]

and a bit south, Mile Square Park in Fountain Valley cut off through access for Heil Avenue and Ward Street. Traffic just detoured around the park.

True.  It seems that every E-W arterial in LA/OC south of Rosecrans and north of 22 freeway (other than Katella/Willow/Sepulveda) is blocked at some point along its journey and traffic just manages to go around.

Wilshire is very busy.  But we are not talking about the closure of a freeway here and the traffic maladies that will come.  Traffic will eventually adjust and fortunately there are a lot of parallel options.