Interstate 11 alignment, though Vegas and points north

Started by swbrotha100, October 16, 2012, 09:51:18 PM

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Apparently I’m a fan of I-69.  Who knew.


roadman65

It got the okay to continue north of Spaghetti Junction?

Nice.
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roadfro

MOD NOTE: All the discussion about Las Vegas Blvd and conversation stemming from that over the last few days was moved to its own thread, since it was over a page of replies and at least three layers of thread drift away from talking about I-11. —Roadfro.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=35203.0
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US 89


PColumbus73

Quote from: US 89 on September 13, 2024, 06:26:01 PMCalifornia spec would have the state name.

But the shape of the I-11 and the I-40 shields are identical, perhaps they came from the same manufacturer. The crowns aren't as rounded as standard interstate shields elsewhere.

Scott5114

That's a 3di shield squished to the dimensions of a 2di shield. No idea why someone would make such a thing.
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Bobby5280

We have at least a couple of those artificially squeezed Interstate shields here in Oklahoma. This one example has been around for a long time:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6011213,-97.416024,3a,75y,255.36h,99.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHi9KANdKoXuFpgu9U21cwQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DHi9KANdKoXuFpgu9U21cwQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D205.17972%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

It's an I-35 shield on an overhead sign. It's a 3-digit shield squeezed to 2-digit width.

I've seen the same weird treatment on some Interstate signs in California, even from a long time ago before they started using computer-based software to design and fabricate the signs.

Scott5114

Quote from: Bobby5280 on September 16, 2024, 11:40:16 PMWe have at least a couple of those artificially squeezed Interstate shields here in Oklahoma.

Where do you think I learned to recognize that particular design malfunction?  :D
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Bickendan

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 15, 2024, 09:28:10 PMThat's a 3di shield squished to the dimensions of a 2di shield. No idea why someone would make such a thing.
I'd rather see a bubble 3di shield over one of those.

Bobby5280

Bubble shields are pretty goofy looking too. I just have a strong dislike of artificially distorted Interstate shields. It goes along with the intense hatred I have of distorted type in commercial signs -very often the default Arial typeface squeezed or stretched to fit in a given space. It all comes down to a general level of incompetence in the "graphic designer" doing the work. Details are important, but the hacks couldn't give a tinker's damn about details.

US 89

I drove I-11 from the Arizona border to I-15 as well as on several other roads around the Vegas area a bit last week. Signage south of 215 is entirely I-11; north of it is a mix of 515 and 11. No white mileposts on the side that I saw.

Signs on I-15 have all been changed over to I-11. Surface streets, like reassurance shields on the mainline, were more of a mixed bag.

roadfro

Quote from: US 89 on October 03, 2024, 10:32:07 PMI drove I-11 from the Arizona border to I-15 as well as on several other roads around the Vegas area a bit last week. Signage south of 215 is entirely I-11; north of it is a mix of 515 and 11. No white mileposts on the side that I saw.

Signs on I-15 have all been changed over to I-11. Surface streets, like reassurance shields on the mainline, were more of a mixed bag.
The changeover of I-515 to I-11 south of I-215 happened a few years ago...that (along with the opening of the Boulder City Bypass) is what first established I-11 in the field.

Seems to be a mixed bag for the rest of it. Between I-215 and I-15, there have been some one-off replacements and replacements as part of other projects. But it sounds like the resigning project has not kicked into high gear yet.

The Las Vegas Valley is markedly has been void of mileposts on the freeways for as long as I can remember. NDOT hasn't seemed to care (although they did install some on Summerlin Pkwy with their recent project). At least for I-515/US 95, there seems to be a milepost discrepancy for years that they haven't been keen to fix. Since NDOT adopted enhanced mileposts/reference markers, they've been more apt to install mileposts in urban areas during enhancement projects. Perhaps with the changeover to I-11, they'll do a milepost/exit renumbering project to finally clean this up (that work is not part of the current resigning project, according to the plans I saw).
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splashflash

#1439
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/traffic/i-11-signage-install-along-us-95-to-begin-this-month-3193690/

"Crews will begin installing Interstate 11 signage along U.S. Highway 95 this month throughout the Las Vegas Valley.

"Over the next year, 1,075 I-11 sign panels will be added on U.S. 95 and approaching highways, between the Henderson Interchange and Kyle Canyon Road, to reflect the 2023 Federal Highway officially designating of the freeway as such, the Nevada Department of Transportation announced Monday.

The $3 million project is expected to be completed by the fall of 2025.

Although the freeway is now designated as I-11, it will still retain its U.S. 95 and U.S. 93 designation, with I-11 taking precedence.

The project includes installing the over 1,000 sign panels on existing overhead sign supports and foundations.

Work associated with the sign installation is not expected to heavily affect traffic impact, but brief, temporary overnight traffic stoppages may be needed on I-11, I-15, and the 215 beltway, as safety precautions.

"NDOT will provide advance notice of any closures or restrictions to help drivers plan their routes," NDOT spokeswoman Kelsey McFarland said in a statement.

The highway is already signed as I-11 between the Henderson Interchange and the Nevada-Arizona border.

Looking to further extend I-11 in Nevada, NDOT is conducting a feasibility study that will be used to highlight the needed upgrades along U.S. 95 between Kyle Canyon Road and Mercury Highway to bring that stretch to interstate code.

"This study builds on the 2018 I-11 Northern Nevada Alternatives Analysis, aiming to refine past recommendations and guide future development," McFarland said.

At full build out, I-11 is planned to stretch between Mexico and Canada, initially linking Las Vegas and Phoenix. There is no time frame to when either expansion will


The Ghostbuster

Will the new Interstate 11 signage being erected also include new exit numbers for the Interstate 215-to-NV 157 segment? The article didn't say, but I hope that is the case.

Great Lakes Roads

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 22, 2024, 10:39:22 PMWill the new Interstate 11 signage being erected also include new exit numbers for the Interstate 215-to-NV 157 segment? The article didn't say, but I hope that is the case.

No.
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kkt

Quote from: splashflash on October 22, 2024, 10:02:02 AMhttps://www.reviewjournal.com/local/traffic/i-11-signage-install-along-us-95-to-begin-this-month-3193690/

"Crews will begin installing Interstate 11 signage along U.S. Highway 95 this month throughout the Las Vegas Valley.

"Over the next year, 1,075 I-11 sign panels will be added on U.S. 95 and approaching highways, between the Henderson Interchange and Kyle Canyon Road, to reflect the 2023 Federal Highway officially designating of the freeway as such, the Nevada Department of Transportation announced Monday.

The $3 million project is expected to be completed by the fall of 2025.

Although the freeway is now designated as I-11, it will still retain its U.S. 95 and U.S. 93 designation, with I-11 taking precedence.

The project includes installing the over 1,000 sign panels on existing overhead sign supports and foundations.

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Work associated with the sign installation is not expected to heavily affect traffic impact, but brief, temporary overnight traffic stoppages may be needed on I-11, I-15, and the 215 beltway, as safety precautions.

"NDOT will provide advance notice of any closures or restrictions to help drivers plan their routes," NDOT spokeswoman Kelsey McFarland said in a statement.

The highway is already signed as I-11 between the Henderson Interchange and the Nevada-Arizona border.

Looking to further extend I-11 in Nevada, NDOT is conducting a feasibility study that will be used to highlight the needed upgrades along U.S. 95 between Kyle Canyon Road and Mercury Highway to bring that stretch to interstate code.

"This study builds on the 2018 I-11 Northern Nevada Alternatives Analysis, aiming to refine past recommendations and guide future development," McFarland said.

At full build out, I-11 is planned to stretch between Mexico and Canada, initially linking Las Vegas and Phoenix. There is no time frame to when either expansion will

I'd be amazed to see I-11 north of Nevada within my lifetime.

The Ghostbuster

Extending Interstate 11 to Canada was always a pipe dream, given the lack of need for such an extension. I'm still not convinced Interstate 11 will make it to Tucson, let alone the Mexican border.

hobsini2

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 24, 2024, 02:41:04 PMExtending Interstate 11 to Canada was always a pipe dream, given the lack of need for such an extension. I'm still not convinced Interstate 11 will make it to Tucson, let alone the Mexican border.
I could see it making it to I-8 as the ultimate bypass of Phoenix like how AZ 85 is.
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DenverBrian

I think Phoenix to Reno is the likely final extent of I-11. Just having Las Vegas connected to Phoenix by Interstate will be a major fill-in of the system.

Henry

Quote from: hobsini2 on October 24, 2024, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 24, 2024, 02:41:04 PMExtending Interstate 11 to Canada was always a pipe dream, given the lack of need for such an extension. I'm still not convinced Interstate 11 will make it to Tucson, let alone the Mexican border.
I could see it making it to I-8 as the ultimate bypass of Phoenix like how AZ 85 is.
Quote from: DenverBrian on October 24, 2024, 11:35:16 PMI think Phoenix to Reno is the likely final extent of I-11. Just having Las Vegas connected to Phoenix by Interstate will be a major fill-in of the system.
I believe you're right about those. I'd rather end it at I-8 than needlessly duplicating other nearby corridors further south, namely I-19.
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KeithE4Phx

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 24, 2024, 02:41:04 PMExtending Interstate 11 to Canada was always a pipe dream, given the lack of need for such an extension. I'm still not convinced Interstate 11 will make it to Tucson, let alone the Mexican border.

There's no need whatsoever for I-11 to exist south of I-8.  They need to concentrate on getting it built between Gila Bend and the AZ-NV state line.  And nowhere else.
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PColumbus73

The best we can hope for is the completion of the original Phoenix to Las Vegas route.

Assuming it was completed between Phoenix and Reno, would there be much of the time saving of using a theoretical I-11 from, say, Tuscan to Portland?

I can see long haul traffic using it to connect from Tuscan to connect to I-40, then to CA 58 and I-5, bypassing Los Angeles. If they were to take it up to Reno, they would have to stair-step through the Donner Pass.

kkt

Quote from: PColumbus73 on October 25, 2024, 08:38:29 AMThe best we can hope for is the completion of the original Phoenix to Las Vegas route.

Assuming it was completed between Phoenix and Reno, would there be much of the time saving of using a theoretical I-11 from, say, Tuscan to Portland?

I can see long haul traffic using it to connect from Tuscan to connect to I-40, then to CA 58 and I-5, bypassing Los Angeles. If they were to take it up to Reno, they would have to stair-step through the Donner Pass.
Yes, the Tucson to Kingman section will get some use for that long haul traffic.  Not sure extending it north of Las Vegas makes sense for anyone though.

To get from Reno to Portland, you have to cross the Sierra or the Cascades somewhere.  Donner is as good as anywhere.  If you really hate I-5, I understand that, and driving north on US 395 or US 97 to cross the Cascades at the Columbia Gorge on I-84 would also make sense.  395 and 97 are good 2-lane roads with passing lanes once in a while, and not all that much traffic.





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