Breezewood

[Tom958]

I wish that someone more energetic than me would collect all the schemes for a Breezewood fix that've been posted here over the years.

[Bobby5280]

Do they have any preliminary schematics for a no-stops system interchange between I-70 and I-76?

I imagine they'll widen I-76 to 3 lanes in both directions along the existing alignment. EB I-76 is already 3 lanes wide crossing over I-70 and the WB I-76 bridge is wide enough to be striped for 3 lanes.

The tricky thing is building new connecting ramps between I-70 and I-76 without bulldozing a bunch of properties built near I-70. They could use the mostly vacant hillside to the right of I-70 just after it passes under I-76. Make I-70 curve to the right and around into a new "Y" interchange with I-76.

[vdeane]

I'm probably in the majority when I say "I'll believe it when I see it"....


...IF I'm still around by that time.

Knowing the PTC, even "full speed ahead" will take at least 30 years.

[Max Rockatansky]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about? 

[LilianaUwU]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about? 

I-180 WY? I-99? I-78 in Jersey City? I could go on. We're roadgeeks, we'll find something to complain about.

[Max Rockatansky]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about? 

I-180 WY? I-99? I-78 in Jersey City? I could go on. We're roadgeeks, we'll find something to complain about.

Out of all those I-99 probably gets the most negative attention.  Even still, it is a considerable drop from what Breezewood gets. 

In our communal haste to vanquish our numbered highway foes we are failing to consider what we would do without them.

[Gnutella]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about?

The control cities on I-80, I suppose.

[Gnutella]

I'm probably in the majority when I say "I'll believe it when I see it"....


...IF I'm still around by that time.

Based on the aging infrastructure, the Breezewood Interchange was scheduled for renovations as part of the PA Turnpike's Total Reconstruction Initiative, which expands the roadway to six lanes. Rather than replace the existing infrastructure, the Commission is taking the opportunity to connect to I-70, a connection that will keep long distance travelers and commercial traffic on the interstate, while supporting safe, less congested access to local communities for visitors.

[Max Rockatansky]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about?

The control cities on I-80, I suppose.

Control city debate died with "other Desert Cities."

[vtk]

It's probably a coincidence but it kinda looks like that WSJ video got someone at the Pa Tpk to get the ball rolling on a Breezewood fix

[Ted$8roadFan]

First, a completely new license plate design and now (potentially) an actual proposal for big changes to one of the most notorious interchanges on the Turnpike. By Pennsylvania standards, these are metaphysical changes.

[74/171FAN]

If the surface jog in Breezewood disappears what will everyone complain about? 

I-180 WY? I-99? I-78 in Jersey City? I could go on. We're roadgeeks, we'll find something to complain about.

Out of all those I-99 probably gets the most negative attention.  Even still, it is a considerable drop from what Breezewood gets. 

In our communal haste to vanquish our numbered highway foes we are failing to consider what we would do without them.

My soon to be profile pic on Facebook from my Nashville trip will annoy some people for sure.

[bmitchelf]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

Holland Tunnel is not the only other interstate traffic light. Unless they mean two-digit interstates. And I consider the interstate ending before the lights anyway.

[Rothman]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

Holland Tunnel is not the only other interstate traffic light. Unless they mean two-digit interstates. And I consider the interstate ending before the lights anyway.

I don't think you are the authority on what segments of road are designated as Interstate.

[bmitchelf]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

Holland Tunnel is not the only other interstate traffic light. Unless they mean two-digit interstates. And I consider the interstate ending before the lights anyway.

I don't think you are the authority on what segments of road are designated as Interstate.

  point still stands that the press release is wrong unless they want to specify one- or two-digit interstates

[roadman65]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

Holland Tunnel is not the only other interstate traffic light. Unless they mean two-digit interstates. And I consider the interstate ending before the lights anyway.

I don't think you are the authority on what segments of road are designated as Interstate.

So what if he wants to believe that, he's not the authority. Heck many non road geeks think I-78 ends at the Turnpike 14 toll plaza with former traffic reporters thinking that Route 139 is one and nine or Route 495 being Route 3.

Heck my uncle once lived in Linden. Worked in Secaucus.  When he told me how he commuted using Route 1 & 9 to Tonnelle Avenue to County Road not realizing that Tonnelle is part of 1 and 9.  If I argued with him I'm sure he would say " So what?" 

If non road geeks think that a number verses a name don't matter, then why should you? Oh wait. Talking to a man who don't know what click bait is. I forgot.

You either have an overinflated ego, or you have an inferiority complex, or both.  It's only a discussion board, not a political debate.  Calm down man. Really.

Does his opinion really matter of where I-78 really ends?

[WillWeaverRVA]

I don't think you are the authority on what segments of road are designated as Interstate.

Nah, that's FritzOwl.

[Rothman]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

Holland Tunnel is not the only other interstate traffic light. Unless they mean two-digit interstates. And I consider the interstate ending before the lights anyway.

I don't think you are the authority on what segments of road are designated as Interstate.

So what if he wants to believe that, he's not the authority. Heck many non road geeks think I-78 ends at the Turnpike 14 toll plaza with former traffic reporters thinking that Route 139 is one and nine or Route 495 being Route 3.

Heck my uncle once lived in Linden. Worked in Secaucus.  When he told me how he commuted using Route 1 & 9 to Tonnelle Avenue to County Road not realizing that Tonnelle is part of 1 and 9.  If I argued with him I'm sure he would say " So what?" 

If non road geeks think that a number verses a name don't matter, then why should you? Oh wait. Talking to a man who don't know what click bait is. I forgot.

You either have an overinflated ego, or you have an inferiority complex, or both.  It's only a discussion board, not a political debate.  Calm down man. Really.

Does his opinion really matter of where I-78 really ends?

Um...I don't think I'm the one that needs to calm down...?  I liked the guy's response to mine.

Just sayin', Interstates are defined by AASHTO/FHWA.  It's not a matter of personal opinion.

[1995hoo]

Surely roadman65 should be able to appreciate by now that pedanticism and excessive precision are trademarks of this forum.

[bluecountry]

There actually may be light at the end of the tunnel - a direct I-70 interchange.  The PTC is looking for a design firm to reconstruct the interchange and the Turnpike in that section.  Think this is the biggest step we've seen towards an interchange yet?  Still a long way to go but it's positive news.

https://www.paturnpike.com/news/details/2024/09/24/pa-turnpike-to-redesign-breezewood-interchange-with-a-connection-to-interstate-70

How did this just sneak into the news?  Up until now it seemed this would never be fixed?

[vdeane]

Surely roadman65 should be able to appreciate by now that pedanticism and excessive precision are trademarks of this forum.

Especially since he so often engages in it himself with all the street view links he posts.  He's basically an adult version of tolbs17.

Honestly, at this point he just has a chip on his shoulder over @Rothman and I pushing back on him for not even bothering to read recent posts in threads he asks questions in.  Seems odd to me to be interested enough in something to ask questions about it, but not enough to read even the most recent page of posts.

[74/171FAN]

Surely roadman65 should be able to appreciate by now that pedanticism and excessive precision are trademarks of this forum.

Especially since he so often engages in it himself with all the street view links he posts.  He's basically an adult version of tolbs17.

Honestly, at this point he just has a chip on his shoulder over @Rothman and I pushing back on him for not even bothering to read recent posts in threads he asks questions in.  Seems odd to me to be interested enough in something to ask questions about it, but not enough to read even the most recent page of posts.

We have all forgotten to use the Search feature at some point or another, but using that as much as possible would help immensely with this stuff.

[hotdogPi]

Searching a thread is broken and has been since the update.

[Rothman]

Searching has never been good on this forum, pre- or post update (e.g., finding your own most recent post in a thread).  But, just perusing a thread to see what's in there before posting is helpful.

[vdeane]

Surely roadman65 should be able to appreciate by now that pedanticism and excessive precision are trademarks of this forum.

Especially since he so often engages in it himself with all the street view links he posts.  He's basically an adult version of tolbs17.

Honestly, at this point he just has a chip on his shoulder over @Rothman and I pushing back on him for not even bothering to read recent posts in threads he asks questions in.  Seems odd to me to be interested enough in something to ask questions about it, but not enough to read even the most recent page of posts.

We have all forgotten to use the Search feature at some point or another, but using that as much as possible would help immensely with this stuff.

I wasn't talking about search.  I was talking about scrolling up.  For a while he seemed to be digging up random threads from the depths, scrolling all the way down to the reply screen, and then posting a question without bothering to read even a single post in the thread he was replying to before doing so.