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Started by hotdogPi, October 19, 2024, 08:24:32 AM

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hotdogPi

Right now, the western half of Middle St. in Lowell MA is an inbound one-way dead end. It's always one way, but right now, the street it normally ends at is under construction, so you can't exit there. Cars have had to turn around and go against the one-way rule.

Does anyone know of any other one-way dead ends?
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: hotdogPi on October 19, 2024, 08:24:32 AMRight now, the western half of Middle St. in Lowell MA is an inbound one-way dead end. It's always one way, but right now, the street it normally ends at is under construction, so you can't exit there. Cars have had to turn around and go against the one-way rule.

Does anyone know of any other one-way dead ends?

Only temporary ones kind of like you described.

Growing up, one of the streets by my elementary school was a one way going in, with a stop sign going out. Locals simply treated it as a one way during the school day and 2 way at other times. They've since revamped the signage to be more proper there.

ilpt4u

A few years ago during some heavy rains with some local flooding, Walnut St/IL 13 EB/One Way in Carbondale on the east side of town was flooded out and closed for a section

We handled it locally pretty well, using Main St/IL 13 WB/One Way as the typical WB Left Lane became a de facto EB lane to get around the flooded out few blocks. Didn't even need police or an arrow board. Normal WB traffic used the middle and right lanes and EB used the normal left lane

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pderocco

Gee, the Google driver risked his freedom, fortune, and reputation by driving in there anyway.

Or maybe the Do Not Enter just means Get Off My Lawn for the house it's in front of.

Rothman

I don't think the Google driver risked anything by driving down that cul-de-sac and the Do Not Enter sign is just to keep thru traffic from mistaking it as a through road.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

wanderer2575

Quote from: Rothman on February 01, 2025, 08:26:16 AMI don't think the Google driver risked anything by driving down that cul-de-sac and the Do Not Enter sign is just to keep thru traffic from mistaking it as a through road.

Because the "Dead End" and "No Outlet" signs don't make that clear.

Rothman

Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 01, 2025, 08:34:33 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 01, 2025, 08:26:16 AMI don't think the Google driver risked anything by driving down that cul-de-sac and the Do Not Enter sign is just to keep thru traffic from mistaking it as a through road.

Because the "Dead End" and "No Outlet" signs don't make that clear.

Ah, if only everyone read signs like roadgeeks...
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GaryV

Quote from: Rothman on February 01, 2025, 08:26:16 AMI don't think the Google driver risked anything by driving down that cul-de-sac and the Do Not Enter sign is just to keep thru traffic from mistaking it as a through road.

I'm guessing the Do Not Enter sign is a leftover. It appears that the cul-de-sac might once have gone through from River Rd. If you go all the way to the end, you can see the sidewalk still curving around off River. In which case it was essentially a slip lane from River Rd. to North St. And I betcha the adjacent property owners petitioned to close it.

Flint1979

Quote from: GaryV on February 01, 2025, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 01, 2025, 08:26:16 AMI don't think the Google driver risked anything by driving down that cul-de-sac and the Do Not Enter sign is just to keep thru traffic from mistaking it as a through road.

I'm guessing the Do Not Enter sign is a leftover. It appears that the cul-de-sac might once have gone through from River Rd. If you go all the way to the end, you can see the sidewalk still curving around off River. In which case it was essentially a slip lane from River Rd. to North St. And I betcha the adjacent property owners petitioned to close it.
If ya go back in GSV the Do not enter sign isn't there in 2012.

Henry

This is beyond stupid, because then how would you get out? By backing up?
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Flint1979

I think that the Do Not Enter sign is there to discourage people from driving down that street not that it's a one way street.

Rothman

Quote from: Flint1979 on February 07, 2025, 07:47:53 AMI think that the Do Not Enter sign is there to discourage people from driving down that street not that it's a one way street.

Thread's going in circles now...or is stuck in a cul-de-sac. :D
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vdeane

Quote from: Henry on February 06, 2025, 10:21:19 PMThis is beyond stupid, because then how would you get out? By backing up?
I think how you get in is the bigger question given the direction the "do not enter" sign is pointed.
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pderocco

Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 07, 2025, 11:04:33 PM
That's stretching the definition of No Outlet. There's an outlet one block away, which is two-way. It correctly has a No Outlet sign. (Monmouth Junction NJ).

GaryV

Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 07, 2025, 11:04:33 PM

I guess you'd better like that house that's for sale, because you're going to end up staying there.   :-D

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ErmineNotyours

Somewhat related.  It would be compliant if the private road sign further back replaced the Do Not Enter sign.


Tendies

This one appears to be a true one way dead end. I-10E frontage road at Wayside Dr (West of I-610) in Houston, Tx. The frontage road just dead ends at the railroad crossing, and there appear to be a few businesses there. There used to be a dirt alley that led out of there, but it has since been closed. From the middle of the dead end stretch, it's signed "DO NOT ENTER" in both directions.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7775107,-95.2900988,3a,27.6y,78.44h,88.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.919146712159062%26panoid%3DPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ%26yaw%3D78.44407467528264!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

mrsman

Quote from: Tendies on June 01, 2025, 05:26:20 AMThis one appears to be a true one way dead end. I-10E frontage road at Wayside Dr (West of I-610) in Houston, Tx. The frontage road just dead ends at the railroad crossing, and there appear to be a few businesses there. There used to be a dirt alley that led out of there, but it has since been closed. From the middle of the dead end stretch, it's signed "DO NOT ENTER" in both directions.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7775107,-95.2900988,3a,27.6y,78.44h,88.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.919146712159062%26panoid%3DPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ%26yaw%3D78.44407467528264!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
ust

This is crazy.  A freeway frontage road leading to an onramp is quite busy, so we certainly don't want the cars going in the opposite direction.  So for all those cars to park there, there must be a way for those cars to drive through on the dirt road or private property to get out

Terminal Drive seems to be it/

Tendies

Quote from: mrsman on June 01, 2025, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: Tendies on June 01, 2025, 05:26:20 AMThis one appears to be a true one way dead end. I-10E frontage road at Wayside Dr (West of I-610) in Houston, Tx. The frontage road just dead ends at the railroad crossing, and there appear to be a few businesses there. There used to be a dirt alley that led out of there, but it has since been closed. From the middle of the dead end stretch, it's signed "DO NOT ENTER" in both directions.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7775107,-95.2900988,3a,27.6y,78.44h,88.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.919146712159062%26panoid%3DPRJLSkjY2ypcw00tDE_SJQ%26yaw%3D78.44407467528264!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
ust

This is crazy. A freeway frontage road leading to an onramp is quite busy, so we certainly don't want the cars going in the opposite direction. So for all those cars to park there, there must be a way for those cars to drive through on the dirt road or private property to get out

Terminal Drive seems to be it/
I've never been there so I have no idea how it actually works. I suppose you could attempt to hook a hard right onto the freeway, traffic permitting.

There appears to be sufficient space on the private property to allow vehicles to pass through to Lyons Ave, however the presence of a farmers market, and cordoning off of the driveways on Lyons makes this practically impossible.

The only other way out would be to enter the driveway directly across from the freeway ramp, and exit via Exchange St, however a permanently parked food truck blocks this exit.

Terminal St appears to have been permanently closed since 2022. It was a two way street when it was open, although heading northbound would be completely pointless, except to access the pumping station. Otherwise, the only legal move would have been to make a U turn. Here's a shot from Lyons Ave showing "ROAD WORK AHEAD", and a stop sign at the frontage road's terminus: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7767796,-95.2888127,3a,37.5y,5.94h,85.36t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sG-Evrmjq9OAmplWg_h4cWQ!2e0!5s20110501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.637756160824026%26panoid%3DG-Evrmjq9OAmplWg_h4cWQ%26yaw%3D5.93511896787107!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

In 2015, the road had been barricaded on both ends, and the street name blades removed: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7767714,-95.2888501,3a,75y,5.94h,85.36t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1szASTKe2CKJq2YZwp7uvWiw!2e0!5s20150701T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.637756160824026%26panoid%3DzASTKe2CKJq2YZwp7uvWiw%26yaw%3D5.93511896787107!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

By 2017, the southern barricade (at Lyons Ave) had fallen, and nature started reclaming the road. Sometime between 2019 and 2022, the stop sign was removed, and a gate put up, although there appear to be vehicle tracks along the former road, indicating that some traffic may occasionally pass through:https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7767963,-95.2888483,3a,75y,5.94h,85.36t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sjYok5anfiwfM4qv8nC5q1A!2e0!5s20220501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.637756160824026%26panoid%3DjYok5anfiwfM4qv8nC5q1A%26yaw%3D5.93511896787107!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

The north side was also barricaded in 2015, but the name blades remained up. Here's a google shot showing the direction arrows into a closed street: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7775414,-95.2889414,3a,75y,120.04h,69.16t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1shmsGSfTPYqGCxx61_Ogg7g!2e0!5s20151201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D20.84144105748352%26panoid%3DhmsGSfTPYqGCxx61_Ogg7g%26yaw%3D120.03996565195779!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Between 2019 and 2022, the direction arrows and street name blades were removed, and the northern entrance to Terminal St was replaced with a gate.: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7775584,-95.2889166,3a,75y,120.04h,69.16t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1smr1msWGz4rrewl1EuRn9iA!2e0!5s20221201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D20.840000000000003%26panoid%3Dmr1msWGz4rrewl1EuRn9iA%26yaw%3D120.04!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Dead end signs were erected between march 2020 and 2021, replacing the old "Lane ends merge right" and curve warning signs, according to street view from the freeway itself.

There is a similar situation just across the freeway, but the road is barricaded off at the last driveway, which lies maybe 50 feet after the last road.

kphoger

Quote from: mrsman on June 01, 2025, 09:00:04 AMA freeway frontage road leading to an onramp is quite busy, so we certainly don't want the cars going in the opposite direction.

Don't tell us.  Tell them.

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