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Started by Alex, March 07, 2009, 07:01:05 PM

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Sonic99

On the "random stubs" note, there's also one on I-78 around MP 21.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/b59KZeD8jDPKdG4bA
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Crown Victoria

Quote from: Sonic99 on December 30, 2024, 12:45:42 AMOn the "random stubs" note, there's also one on I-78 around MP 21.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/b59KZeD8jDPKdG4bA

I asked about this one myself a few years back... they're for a rest area that was never built. There also was a rest area planned eastbound between PA 419 and PA 183.

If I recall correctly, there is a new weigh station planned for the stubs westbound within the next few years.

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74/171FAN

Photo album of my visit to Brodheadville, PA, on December 14, 2024, to see the new US 209/PA 115 roundabout:

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBWQ7j
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roadman65

Pennsylvania, I saw yesterday, doesn't use an exit number on the state line exit on I-95 for I-495.

Don't know if that's to eliminate to Exit Zero or because I-495 is a Delaware route?
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Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2025, 05:48:12 AMPennsylvania, I saw yesterday, doesn't use an exit number on the state line exit on I-95 for I-495.

Don't know if that's to eliminate to Exit Zero or because I-495 is a Delaware route?

Thought they signed it as Delaware Exit 11?

Alex

Quote from: MASTERNC on January 04, 2025, 08:05:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2025, 05:48:12 AMPennsylvania, I saw yesterday, doesn't use an exit number on the state line exit on I-95 for I-495.

Don't know if that's to eliminate to Exit Zero or because I-495 is a Delaware route?

Thought they signed it as Delaware Exit 11?

It is Exit 11, though the overhead at the separation omits and exit tab:


roadman65

I was taking photos of it and only then when I was looking at the advanced guides from the files, I saw the tabs for them.
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74/171FAN

#3014
The CE Expert System is showing plans to add the missing movements at the US 30/Airport Road interchange along the Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass.

(For I-76)  PennDOT - District 6 News: PennDOT to Host Virtual and In-Person Public Meetings for Interstate 76 (Schuylkill Expressway) Flex Lane Projects in Montgomery, Philadelphia Counties

(For US 22, PA 230, and US 11) PennDOT - Statewide News: PennDOT Receives $1.3 Million USDOT Grant to Keep Goods Moving, Ease Traffic Congestion, and Reduce Pollution from Trucks

QuoteFSP technology will be installed on Cameron Street in the City of Harrisburg and along the Harrisburg Pike in Middlesex Township, Cumberland County, also known as the "Miracle Mile." The pilot locations were chosen based on the traffic signals' efficiency along the corridors, the percentage of each location's total traffic coming from trucks, the air quality reports from USDOT's Equitable Transportation Community Data, and the hardware in place at the traffic signals.
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sbeaver44

I thought I remembered somewhere that PennDOT was going to make a slight adjustment to the northern end of PA 441, but I can't find it now.

Basically, instead of coming up to 28th Street and turning left onto Sycamore St, then ending at Paxton at the Harrisburg line, it was just going to continue on 28th to the light at Paxton.  The primary movement at the northern end is most likely continuing on Paxton WB, which can be difficult in traffic, and Sycamore feels more like a city street than a state highway IMO.  Ending it at a light makes sense.  (Of course, my fictional extension would give it a proper ending by following Front/2nd to US 22/322/PA 443)

This would be the third re-routing of PA 441 in 15 or so years, as the Columbia "bypass" and the Middletown reroute to absorb PA 441 Truck are the others.  I will note that former 441T-now regular 441 is not nearly as bumpy nowadays.

If this is still happening, what is the timeframe?  I was on PA 441 here recently, and note no changes.

74/171FAN

Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 28, 2023, 07:44:56 AMCE Expert System: 

District 8:  Sycamore/Paxton Intersection Imp

Will result in a realignment of PA 441:

QuoteThe existing SR 441 section of Sycamore St. between the current Paxton/Sycamore intersection east to 28th Street will be turned over to the township. SR 441 will begin at the 28th/Paxton Street intersection and travel east. It was determined that the pavement on existing SR 441 between the Paxton/Sycamore and 28th Street did not require milling and overlay. PennDOT will update signs and pavement markings.

The section of 28th Street located between the Sycamore Street/28th Street intersection and 28th Street/Paxton Street intersection will be acquired by PennDOT. No improvements are proposed for this section of roadway. It will become part of SR 441.

The current TIP states that this will be a 2026 project.
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wildcat7176

Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 21, 2025, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 16, 2025, 08:06:52 AMThe CE Expert System is showing plans to add the missing movements at the US 30/Airport Road interchange along the Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass.

The US 30 project website is showing this as a Diverging Diamond Interchange, and shows the US 30 BUS interchange area at the west end as a dumbbell interchange. 
I have been closely monitoring the US 30 bypass reconstruction for a while now, and it looks like just about all of the interchanges in the project area will have some sort of "newer" interchange design like roundabouts, SPUI, diverging diamond, etc. (maybe those aren't "new", but they haven't really been seen before in the Greater Philadelphia Area).

Otherwise, this project seems to be a massive undertaking (although desperately needed both in terms of congestion and safety), especially since they are also widening 30 to six lanes, something that it seems may be difficult to do especially in the Downingtown area in terms of the number of homes and properties right along the highway as of now.

Gnutella

Quote from: wildcat7176 on January 25, 2025, 06:41:02 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 21, 2025, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 16, 2025, 08:06:52 AMThe CE Expert System is showing plans to add the missing movements at the US 30/Airport Road interchange along the Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass.

The US 30 project website is showing this as a Diverging Diamond Interchange, and shows the US 30 BUS interchange area at the west end as a dumbbell interchange. 
I have been closely monitoring the US 30 bypass reconstruction for a while now, and it looks like just about all of the interchanges in the project area will have some sort of "newer" interchange design like roundabouts, SPUI, diverging diamond, etc. (maybe those aren't "new", but they haven't really been seen before in the Greater Philadelphia Area).

Otherwise, this project seems to be a massive undertaking (although desperately needed both in terms of congestion and safety), especially since they are also widening 30 to six lanes, something that it seems may be difficult to do especially in the Downingtown area in terms of the number of homes and properties right along the highway as of now.

Of course, if PennDOT succeeds in widening U.S. 30 to six lanes in the richy-rich suburbs, then that gives me a tiny glimmer of hope that the Schuylkill Expressway can be widened to six lanes too, even if little by little.

wildcat7176

Quote from: Gnutella on January 27, 2025, 03:04:55 AM
Quote from: wildcat7176 on January 25, 2025, 06:41:02 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 21, 2025, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 16, 2025, 08:06:52 AMThe CE Expert System is showing plans to add the missing movements at the US 30/Airport Road interchange along the Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass.

The US 30 project website is showing this as a Diverging Diamond Interchange, and shows the US 30 BUS interchange area at the west end as a dumbbell interchange. 
I have been closely monitoring the US 30 bypass reconstruction for a while now, and it looks like just about all of the interchanges in the project area will have some sort of "newer" interchange design like roundabouts, SPUI, diverging diamond, etc. (maybe those aren't "new", but they haven't really been seen before in the Greater Philadelphia Area).

Otherwise, this project seems to be a massive undertaking (although desperately needed both in terms of congestion and safety), especially since they are also widening 30 to six lanes, something that it seems may be difficult to do especially in the Downingtown area in terms of the number of homes and properties right along the highway as of now.

Of course, if PennDOT succeeds in widening U.S. 30 to six lanes in the richy-rich suburbs, then that gives me a tiny glimmer of hope that the Schuylkill Expressway can be widened to six lanes too, even if little by little.
I know the topic of widening the Schuylkill has been discussed many times throughout this forum, but I think it certainly is possible with today's modern technology that could drill into the rock, but I figure the cost would be too much. In the meantime, we will have to see how these proposed "shoulder flex lanes" play out; I believe the shoulder lanes are actually proposed for the US 30 project as an alternative if they are not able to truly widen to 6 lanes.

What I don't understand is that these shoulder flex lanes have been talked about for some time on the Blue Route for the bottleneck 4-lane portion south of PA 3, but I am pretty sure they built that part of the highway with infrastructure ready for future widening to 6 lanes. Why not just get it done? I can't imagine there are still the NIMBYs from Swarthmore and Wallingford who would oppose it.

roadman65

Was Phoenixville Pike between West Chester and Frazer ever a state route designation?

Also when PA 100 used to terminate at the Delaware State Line did the current PA 100 freeway between Exton and US 202 ever have a signed route number or was that a PA reference route like PA 12 was between Reading and Pricetown and signed with nothing?

My old map shows the latter as TO PA 100 and no number for the former.
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Roadgeek2500

Quote from: roadman65 on January 29, 2025, 05:36:46 PMWas Phoenixville Pike between West Chester and Frazer ever a state route designation?

Good Question, Before US 202 broke the continuity of Phoenixville pike from West Chester to Charlestown Rd, PA 29 was signed on that corridor. 29 was realigned to Morehall Rd in 1970 according to pahighways
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74/171FAN

For PA 29:  https://www.pahighways.com/state/PA1-50.html#PA29south  https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Pennsylvania_Route_29#History

QuotePrior to construction of the US 202 expressway in 1970, PA 29 travelled entirely on Phoenixville Pike between Phoenixville and West Chester. PA 29 entered West Chester on Goshen Road and Marshall Street, ending at PA 100 (High Street) in town. When the US 202 expressway was built, PA 29 was rerouted onto Morehall Road at Devault and ran south to junction US 202 and then end at US 30.

Apparently the PA 100 freeway before the relocation onto it was SR 2023. (https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Pennsylvania_Route_100)

QuoteThe freeway connecting US 202 and PA 100 became known as SR 2023 when the Location Referencing System was established in 1987.
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wildcat7176

Looking back, I think it would have been better to simply create a "PA 100 Alternate Truck" route, as preventing trucks from coming through the borough of West Chester was the main reason they truncated 100. I know when they did the redesignation it caused a lot of confusion for people near the Delaware border who lived near "Old Route 100". A truck route could have followed the freeway spur and then ran on 202/322 to the south end of town. I believe Bing Maps actually still erroneously has the old 100 designation through town, and calls the spur route to 202 "PA 100 Spur".

As for 29, it makes sense for it to have been changed looking back now with the 202 freeway and how crowded and developed Morehall Road is today from Charlestown Road to its southern terminus at US 30. However, I just wish there was a better direct route from West Chester to Phoenixville, as the part of 29 from Devault to Phoenixville is only 2 lanes and has some sharp curves in the woods along Pickering Creek. I believe I read somewhere that there were plans in the 1980s to widen that section, but I always wondered if they considered re-routing 29 onto Charlestown Road or White Horse Road and widening one of those roads, instead of the aforementioned State Road (I have also seen it called West Chester State Road somewhere?).