Supreme Court gives green light to law that could ban TikTok

[Scott5114]

Compared to Instagram/Reels or YouTube Shorts, I find the interface to be more intuitive, and their algorithm both more accurate and more flexible to what I'm interested in.

Yep, the algorithm being better is why my wife has said she prefers TikTok over competing apps.

Interestingly, said algorithm is under export control by China, so if ByteDance sold TikTok to some other company, the algorithm probably wouldn't go with it.

I don't quite understand why people are switching to Rednote, another Chinese company. Won't it get banned, too?

It's to poke Congress in the eye. "Don't want us to use our favorite app because it's Chinese? Screw you, we'll use one that's so Chinese we have to learn Mandarin to figure out what the buttons do!"

[Henry]

Big deal. I never got the hype about TikTok anyway.

[Max Rockatansky]

Was there any actual road stuff on it?  Now you guys have me wondering if there is a niche that hasn't been exploited on TikTok.

[LilianaUwU]

People switching from TikTok to Rednote makes me think that kids these days are as computer illiterate as my parents are.

[Max Rockatansky]

Do kids actually even widely use actual computers anymore?  Seems like most young people use tablets and phones.

[hotdogPi]

Do kids actually even widely use actual computers anymore?  Seems like most young people use tablets and phones.

Given that PC gaming is still a thing, I would imagine some do.

In addition, most of these people are young adults and not kids, but laptops at Starbucks are a very common sight.

[LilianaUwU]

Do kids actually even widely use actual computers anymore?

Anyone who plays Grand Theft Auto Online on PC will confirm that yes, kids use actual computers still.

[Rothman]

My daughter and I share videos that entertain us on TikTok.  The ban is stupid, especially when based upon some idiotic idea that it's resulting in mass indoctrination or something.

Love the fact that, on RedNote, we are teaching skeptical Chinese citizens that paying for ambulances is indeed something we do here and not just propaganda...

Haven't made the switch and probably won't, but this whole thing reeks of American apps not being as competitive and screwing everyone over very little concern.

I mean, FB Messenger scans your wifi network, too...

[Rothman]

Love the fact that, on RedNote, we are teaching skeptical Chinese citizens that paying for ambulances is indeed something we do here and not just propaganda...

Kind of is propaganda based on what I could find. Beside that, I pay zero out-of-pocket with my insurance, but their tax-funded government insurance apparently does not.

Trusting anything they say that makes them "better than us", when they put suicide nets so people jumping from factory roofs are a thing, is a little naïve.

<.<

You know how insurance works, right?

And, don't we have suicide catchers on the Golden Gate Bridge and other locations ourselves?

[Big John]

Trump "likely" to give a 90-day reprieve: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypng0rw0lo

[Rothman]

Trump "likely" to give a 90-day reprieve: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypng0rw0lo

A strange application of Andrew Jackson's assertion, but so be it.

[Road Hog]

Stinkypants can easily just browbeat Congress into rescinding the ban they voted for. Problem solved. Win for Stinkypants.

[Road Hog]

Trump "likely" to give a 90-day reprieve: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypng0rw0lo

A strange application of Andrew Jackson's assertion, but so be it.

Not a rejection of SCOTUS, just a rejection of a congressional statute that SCOTUS merely upheld. So that's different from Jackson.

[Rothman]

Trump "likely" to give a 90-day reprieve: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypng0rw0lo

A strange application of Andrew Jackson's assertion, but so be it.

Not a rejection of SCOTUS, just a rejection of a congressional statute that SCOTUS merely upheld. So that's different from Jackson.

I am impressed by how finely this hair is split.

[kalvado]

Trump "likely" to give a 90-day reprieve: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypng0rw0lo

A strange application of Andrew Jackson's assertion, but so be it.

Not a rejection of SCOTUS, just a rejection of a congressional statute that SCOTUS merely upheld. So that's different from Jackson.

I am impressed by how finely this hair is split.

Oh, it's very straightforward thing by recent standards. Talk about "deplatforming" if you really want to enjoy some doublespeak

[Big John]

It is currently dark in the US.

[Rothman]

Love the fact that, on RedNote, we are teaching skeptical Chinese citizens that paying for ambulances is indeed something we do here and not just propaganda...

Kind of is propaganda based on what I could find. Beside that, I pay zero out-of-pocket with my insurance, but their tax-funded government insurance apparently does not.

Trusting anything they say that makes them "better than us", when they put suicide nets so people jumping from factory roofs are a thing, is a little naïve.

<.<

You know how insurance works, right?

And, don't we have suicide catchers on the Golden Gate Bridge and other locations ourselves?

Why do anytime someone presents you with facts, you just cut them down by pretending they don't know how something works?

Yes, I know how insurance works, and unarguably given my work experience I know much more than you about it. Instead, you just choose to be a useful idiot for a totalitarian government. Congrats.

Because it's way too obvious that we pay insurance premiums for policies that pay for the ambulance costs.  And, if you don't have insurance, a bill does come your way for the service.

To say, "I don't have to pay for it since it's zero out-of-pocket through the insurance policy [THAT I PAY FOR]" is a bit much.

[SSOWorld]

It is currently dark in the US.

Sun's rising, how can it be dark?

[kalvado]

Love the fact that, on RedNote, we are teaching skeptical Chinese citizens that paying for ambulances is indeed something we do here and not just propaganda...

Kind of is propaganda based on what I could find. Beside that, I pay zero out-of-pocket with my insurance, but their tax-funded government insurance apparently does not.

Trusting anything they say that makes them "better than us", when they put suicide nets so people jumping from factory roofs are a thing, is a little naïve.

<.<

You know how insurance works, right?

And, don't we have suicide catchers on the Golden Gate Bridge and other locations ourselves?

Why do anytime someone presents you with facts, you just cut them down by pretending they don't know how something works?

Yes, I know how insurance works, and unarguably given my work experience I know much more than you about it. Instead, you just choose to be a useful idiot for a totalitarian government. Congrats.

Because it's way too obvious that we pay insurance premiums for policies that pay for the ambulance costs.  And, if you don't have insurance, a bill does come your way for the service.

To say, "I don't have to pay for it since it's zero out-of-pocket through the insurance policy [THAT I PAY FOR]" is a bit much.

I am pretty sure people in China and any other country with government-paid health care pay it in a ridiculous level of increased taxes. It's just shifted from who you're paying it to. You are aware their health insurance isn't "free" right?

And, I'll reiterate this AGAIN, people in China pay out of pocket costs for an ambulance ride. Instead, you be you and keep on whitesplaining to the Chinese on a Chinese app how their own country works.

There is a hard to quantity yet very useful parameter - government spending as a fraction of GDP. And it is more or less the same across the globe.
There is also healthcare spending as a fraction of GDP - which is sky high in US. There is also life expectancy, which is surprisingly low in US given medical spending.

Yes, ambulance may work differently depending on your insurance. But 4-digit bills for life saving emergency care is a real thing, we had to pay one for my wife. (Its a long story why she ended up with a cheap and shitty insurance - she didn't have to, but it was standard for her coworkers).
If you read Liu Cixin books, china used to have expensive healthcare as well.
Moral of the story? Different social priorities. Typical propaganda approach is "it is great here, it is bad there".
But people running away from ambulance to avoid treatment and payments are a medical fact. So is Biden and Putin being examples of leaders using "justice" on their opponents and censoring internet.

[SEWIGuy]

I think a lot of people who don't understand how poor, expensive and uneven health care is in the United States either

1. Have had good, comprehensive health insurance for a long time and don't understand how the marketplace IMO has significantly changed over the last decade, or...

2. Have bought into the notion that unless we put up with this, access and quality will suffer. Even though there are countries that have show this to absolutely not be the case.

It is obvious that something needs to be done. Our system is honestly unsustainable as our population continues to age. Latest projections show that we are going to need migration to even maintain our current population size and age over the next 30 years. Without the health and economic production that young people bring, things are going to get very stagnant around here.

[Rothman]

Love the fact that, on RedNote, we are teaching skeptical Chinese citizens that paying for ambulances is indeed something we do here and not just propaganda...

Kind of is propaganda based on what I could find. Beside that, I pay zero out-of-pocket with my insurance, but their tax-funded government insurance apparently does not.

Trusting anything they say that makes them "better than us", when they put suicide nets so people jumping from factory roofs are a thing, is a little naïve.

<.<

You know how insurance works, right?

And, don't we have suicide catchers on the Golden Gate Bridge and other locations ourselves?

Why do anytime someone presents you with facts, you just cut them down by pretending they don't know how something works?

Yes, I know how insurance works, and unarguably given my work experience I know much more than you about it. Instead, you just choose to be a useful idiot for a totalitarian government. Congrats.

Because it's way too obvious that we pay insurance premiums for policies that pay for the ambulance costs.  And, if you don't have insurance, a bill does come your way for the service.

To say, "I don't have to pay for it since it's zero out-of-pocket through the insurance policy [THAT I PAY FOR]" is a bit much.

I am pretty sure people in China and any other country with government-paid health care pay it in a ridiculous level of increased taxes. It's just shifted from who you're paying it to. You are aware their health insurance isn't "free" right?

And, I'll reiterate this AGAIN, people in China pay out of pocket costs for an ambulance ride. Instead, you be you and keep on whitesplaining to the Chinese on a Chinese app how their own country works.

Goalposts shifted...of course China pays for it one way or another.

The idea that because your out-of-pocket expenses were zero that the cost to you was zero for ambulances was equally silly to the assertion you're currently making.

Again, looking like Red China and us are closer together than you think.

[Rothman]

So...TikTok's back...and Facebook now has a verified account.

*facepalm*

[vdeane]

Because it's way too obvious that we pay insurance premiums for policies that pay for the ambulance costs.  And, if you don't have insurance, a bill does come your way for the service.

To say, "I don't have to pay for it since it's zero out-of-pocket through the insurance policy [THAT I PAY FOR]" is a bit much.

Heck, even with insurance, often it will just be a reimbursement, so you still need to pay for it, you just get money back afterwards.

I find it interesting that some people feel strongly about paying a private company something instead of taxes, especially since the company costs more (because they need to make a profit) and often has worse outcomes.

[Max Rockatansky]

One benefit to paying for an ambulance ride is that you can decline it in certain circumstances.  Last year someone accidentally gave me shrimp sauce which gave me a nasty allergic reaction.  I managed to down a Benadryl before the throat swelling got really bad.  My wife's family called 911 and the paramedics keep pushing for to take an ambulance ride.  Considering I threw up most of what was giving me problems I felt in position to decline a ride and having to pay the out of pocket fee later on.

[Rothman]

One benefit to paying for an ambulance ride is that you can decline it in certain circumstances.  Last year someone accidentally gave me shrimp sauce which gave me a nasty allergic reaction.  I managed to down a Benadryl before the throat swelling got really bad.  My wife's family called 911 and the paramedics keep pushing for to take an ambulance ride.  Considering I threw up most of what was giving me problems I felt in position to decline a ride and having to pay the out of pocket fee later on.

And yet, in a lot of countries fiscal considerations don't come into play when one is having various substances spewing forth from their orifices.

When I lived in Yeltsin's Russia, you just went to the doctor or hospital.  Sure, the overall economy sucked, but people didn't have to worry about whether they could afford healthcare.