I Thought No Politics

[SectorZ]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

I thought it's forbidden to post anything anti whomever in politics?

I'm assuming this was my post.

I don't regret it. I'm not the one who made my very mundane Federal job political. That was one political party that chose to do so. If you don't like political rants, then perhaps blame the party that is making anything and everything political.

I was trying to shed light on how this election has had severe consequences on regular, ordinary people. If that made you uncomfortable, then I achieved my goal. My situation is serious enough that the opportunity to educate a couple hundred people about what's really going on outweighed forum rules and decorum.

Don't you work for the IRS now? That's kind of concerning for someone with an axe to grind like yourself threatening people who disagree with you. I don't trust you in that capacity, even if you don't have access directly to things with which you can do harm, and I am not a fan of many things going on right now.

IIRC, he works for the Census Bureau.

Check again...

[NWI_Irish96]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

I thought it's forbidden to post anything anti whomever in politics?

I'm assuming this was my post.

I don't regret it. I'm not the one who made my very mundane Federal job political. That was one political party that chose to do so. If you don't like political rants, then perhaps blame the party that is making anything and everything political.

I was trying to shed light on how this election has had severe consequences on regular, ordinary people. If that made you uncomfortable, then I achieved my goal. My situation is serious enough that the opportunity to educate a couple hundred people about what's really going on outweighed forum rules and decorum.

Don't you work for the IRS now? That's kind of concerning for someone with an axe to grind like yourself threatening people who disagree with you. I don't trust you in that capacity, even if you don't have access directly to things with which you can do harm, and I am not a fan of many things going on right now.

IIRC, he works for the Census Bureau.

Check again...

I switched from Census to IRS a few months ago. My job is administrative, I have nothing to do with anybody's taxes or finances, nor do I have access to any of that.

Also, as upset as I am, I never "threatened" anybody, but someone conflating being made uncomfortable by the truth with being threatened says a lot.

[SectorZ]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

I thought it's forbidden to post anything anti whomever in politics?

I'm assuming this was my post.

I don't regret it. I'm not the one who made my very mundane Federal job political. That was one political party that chose to do so. If you don't like political rants, then perhaps blame the party that is making anything and everything political.

I was trying to shed light on how this election has had severe consequences on regular, ordinary people. If that made you uncomfortable, then I achieved my goal. My situation is serious enough that the opportunity to educate a couple hundred people about what's really going on outweighed forum rules and decorum.

Don't you work for the IRS now? That's kind of concerning for someone with an axe to grind like yourself threatening people who disagree with you. I don't trust you in that capacity, even if you don't have access directly to things with which you can do harm, and I am not a fan of many things going on right now.

IIRC, he works for the Census Bureau.

Check again...

I switched from Census to IRS a few months ago. My job is administrative, I have nothing to do with anybody's taxes or finances, nor do I have access to any of that.

Also, as upset as I am, I never "threatened" anybody, but someone conflating being made uncomfortable by the truth with being threatened says a lot.

I'm sorry, a threat would actually be less obnoxious than, "If you voted for Donald Trump, I just want to say fuck you and I hate you."

You sir, are filled with a massive amount of hate on your own. Reflect.

Also, since I was curious, why are there two different news stories from 2013 and 2019 with you whining about government shutdowns and you losing your income. You literally seek out attention for yourself over this. It's INCREDIBLY narcissistic.

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

[kalvado]

While federal workers are feeling it... Those who are under "employment at will" conditions please raise your hand.

Every state except Montana is an "at will" state.

"at will" is presumed as "I can just stop showing up at work as I will" - but in reality means "HR can hand you a pink slip at any time as they will. Friendly security will escort you out, you have 15 min to collect personal items".  I saw people in big companies to be literally told that everyone must show up to a meeting - and then certain names are called to HR desk and processed out immediately.
It's not uncommon for restaurant workers to show up in the morning to an "out of business" sign placed by owners overnight.
So while that all suck... It's the way things are often done in US.

[JayhawkCO]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

[SectorZ]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

[kalvado]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Using f-word for a majority of US voters probably would fall under protected speech under the First Amendment (on a government level), but certainly may end up with returned favors which would be equally protected. 

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that we are talking about the results of an election based on the Electoral College.  A lot probably could be said about how much power individual voters actually have. 

[Molandfreak]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Using f-word for a plurality of US voters probably would fall under protected speech under the First Amendment (on a government level), but certainly may end up with returned favors which would be equally protected.

FTFY

[Max Rockatansky]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

I mean hell, my job could in theory be in jeopardy also.  While I don't think it actually is I see the same emails about buyout offers everyone else at my office gets.

This is even worse now that it has been clearly established Irish hasn't actually lost his job.  That makes this about being more a being dick for the sake of being a dick.

[JayhawkCO]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

[SectorZ]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

[JayhawkCO]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

And I don't disagree with this either. That said, no one has to look at these threads nor post in them.

[SectorZ]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

And I don't disagree with this either. That said, no one has to look at these threads nor post in them.

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

And I don't disagree with this either. That said, no one has to look at these threads nor post in them.

Sorry I wasn't blessed with your x-ray vision that allows for seeing a thread's content before opening it.

[LilianaUwU]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

And I don't disagree with this either. That said, no one has to look at these threads nor post in them.

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

And I don't disagree with this either. That said, no one has to look at these threads nor post in them.

Sorry I wasn't blessed with your x-ray vision that allows for seeing a thread's content before opening it.

You want to avoid seeing politics, yet open a thread called "I Thought No Politics".

I don't think that requires x-ray vision.

Those are some huge quotes. Is this where I derail the thread with Alanland quotes like "the longer the quote, the happier the goat"?

[JayhawkCO]

Sorry I wasn't blessed with your x-ray vision that allows for seeing a thread's content before opening it.

You want to avoid seeing politics, yet open a thread called "I Thought No Politics".

I don't think that requires x-ray vision.

[JayhawkCO]

Those are some huge quotes. Is this where I derail the thread with Alanland quotes like "the longer the quote, the happier the goat"?

I tried to fix it in my previous post, but it got screwed up, so I just posted a separate, much more concise quoting.

[SectorZ]

Those are some huge quotes. Is this where I derail the thread with Alanland quotes like "the longer the quote, the happier the goat"?

I tried to fix it in my previous post, but it got screwed up, so I just posted a separate, much more concise quoting.

Talking about the post that gave birth to this one.

[NWI_Irish96]

Do I wish I'd found a better way to express my frustrations? Yes, and I'm sorry I was so blunt.

Do I regret expressing them? No.

If even a couple people have a better understanding of what's going on, and the tradeoff is that others think less of me, I can live with that.

[Molandfreak]

You make me loathe political extremists like you. If you had the power, you'd just be a leftist version of Donald Trump (or, what he was pre-2000).

You can feel how you want politically, but I don't see how anything posted remotely could be called "extremism". If you lose your job because of a single person, and you then don't like that person, that's extremism?

Dude still has a job. He stated it was in "jeopardy". Probably not even losing his job. It's partisan weirdness that is extreme. That's my opinion.

I wish I could go back and vote for Trump to spite him now.

Sure. Well let me give you my personal example. My wife is a teacher. She teaches in Aurora which is now well known nationally as a city with a lot of immigrants. So, not only is she worried about funding for her school due to the Dept of Education getting axed, which might make her lose her job, she's also concerned about ICE raids at her school where kids would be snatched out of a place that's designed for learning. They had a lockdown the other day due to a miscommunication, and a lot of kids were scared when they saw the police that had to clear the school. She's already asked me if I'd be mad if she got arrested protecting her kids, and I told her absolutely not.

So... am I mad about the current situation? Hell yes. Am I going to drop targeted profanities at those who seemingly support such things? No I'm not. Do I understand the sentiment of someone who does? I sure do.

It's like the United Healthcare thing. Do I endorse violence? Of course not. Do I understand WHY someone might feel compelled to do something like that? I unfortunately do.

Yes, but supposedly this is not the place for it. Letting it go is an extended middle finger to many here. I've had to see two decades of whining every time the pendulum swings. I come here to escape it and yet some people can't help themselves.

So why is this energy never directed towards Terry or SP, who constantly inject their politics into their posts, calling others tyrants?

[webny99]

Also, as upset as I am, I never "threatened" anybody

This is a tricky needle to thread because it is understandable why someone would take offense and/or feel threatened, regardless if that's how it was meant. I know users can't edit posts in locked threads (probably including this one soon) but I feel strongly that if the first sentence of the post in question was removed and everything else played out the same, your supposed objective would have still been achieved with a whole lot less drama.

[vdeane]

I think it's important to realize that, for many people, these things have gone beyond simple "disagreements".  From the entire federal workforce that is facing unprecedented political interference in formerly non-political jobs to marginalized groups (especially immigrants and the transgender community) who have had their entire existence politicized with a federal government that seeks to wipe them out of public life, a lot of people are being directly hurt by this administration.  And this wasn't some unknown thing.  Any reasonable person who was paying attention to the 2024 campaign would have known this was going to happen.  Thus, anyone who voted for You Know Who can be reasonably considered to have done so knowing this was, at a minimum, a strong possibility, and was OK with that, so the sentiment is very understandable.

Other members actively jump on rulebreakers, too, partly because the political subforum is called "The Soapbox" and we quickly realized that we could use an acronym to tell people to post there: "Take It to The Soapbox" quickly became "TITS."

While I will remain neutral on the suggestion of the politics forum, if we did get one, I wanted to note an opportunity for our own acronym - Post that Opinion Out in Politics (POOP).

[JayhawkCO]

Those are some huge quotes. Is this where I derail the thread with Alanland quotes like "the longer the quote, the happier the goat"?

I tried to fix it in my previous post, but it got screwed up, so I just posted a separate, much more concise quoting.

Talking about the post that gave birth to this one.

I guess I read things all the time that go contrary to things I "like". I consume them, and then immediately move on with my day. Sometimes those things are met with a shake of my head or mild muttered profanities, but I move on nonetheless.

[hbelkins]

Dang. I'm gone for four days and I miss something. What happened?

[LilianaUwU]

Dang. I'm gone for four days and I miss something. What happened?

TL;DR, someone bluntly told Trump voters to go fuck themselves, and it's the only damn thing we've been talking about on this roads forum.