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thspfc

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: thspfc on February 14, 2025, 11:16:54 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.
Is Philadelphia not just NYC's little brother in most ways?

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webny99

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Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.



Quote from: SEWIGuy on February 14, 2025, 11:25:32 AMI think because a higher number of Philadelphians are from there and have lived there most of their lives when compared to places like Washington, New York or Boston. At least that's what I have been told.

That would lead to more stereotypes, not less...

kernals12

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Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.


Not nearly as many as are applied to Boston for example.

1995hoo

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.


Not nearly as many as are applied to Boston.

That depends on where you live. I hear far more stereotypes (almost all of them very negative) about Philadelphia residents, no doubt because when you live in the DC area you encounter Philadelphia sports fans on a regular basis due to our respective cities' major pro teams* playing in the same division.

*Before someone squawks, I'm not counting DC's basketball team as "major." They've had two separate 16-game losing streaks this season alone.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kphoger

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PMWhat? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:02:44 PMNot nearly as many as are applied to Boston.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:07:17 PMThat depends on where you live. I hear far more stereotypes (almost all of them very negative) about Philadelphia residents, no doubt because when you live in the DC area you encounter Philadelphia sports fans on a regular basis due to our respective cities' major pro teams* playing in the same division.

Yeah, I've lived in the Midwest my whole life, and a Philadelphia stereotype is definitely more of a thing in my mind than a Boston stereotype.

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kernals12

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.


Not nearly as many as are applied to Boston.

That depends on where you live. I hear far more stereotypes (almost all of them very negative) about Philadelphia residents, no doubt because when you live in the DC area you encounter Philadelphia sports fans on a regular basis due to our respective cities' major pro teams* playing in the same division.

*Before someone squawks, I'm not counting DC's basketball team as "major." They've had two separate 16-game losing streaks this season alone.

I've had two comments now bringing up the reputation of Philadelphia's sports fans as a retort to my point. That actually proves my point. That hardly compares to the stigma attached to DC residents for living in the nation's capital or Boston for its Irish heritage, abundance of colleges, and its liberal politics.

1995hoo

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.


Not nearly as many as are applied to Boston.

That depends on where you live. I hear far more stereotypes (almost all of them very negative) about Philadelphia residents, no doubt because when you live in the DC area you encounter Philadelphia sports fans on a regular basis due to our respective cities' major pro teams* playing in the same division.

*Before someone squawks, I'm not counting DC's basketball team as "major." They've had two separate 16-game losing streaks this season alone.

I've had two comments now bringing up the reputation of Philadelphia's sports fans as a retort to my point. That actually proves my point. That hardly compares to the stigma attached to DC residents for living in the nation's capital or Boston for its Irish heritage, abundance of colleges, and its liberal politics.

That is your opinion, not a fact, and I said absolutely nothing to "prove" anything you said. I never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point, but when I hear that it's generally applied to Massachusetts as a whole, not just to the city.

Same shit, different day: People disagree with kernals12 and he's too thin-skinned to be able to deal with it.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kernals12

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:19:26 PMI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point

Really? You never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

webny99

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:22:02 PM
QuoteI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point

Really? You never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

I'd argue that this (and variants thereof) are usually a stereotype of the East Coast in general, not Boston specifically.

1995hoo

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:19:26 PMI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point

Really? You never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

Of course I've heard that. But you didn't mention the incorrect way of speaking. You mentioned Irish heritage (which to me would be a point of pride), an abundance of colleges, and liberal politics. I, in turn, referred to "the Boston stereotypes you reference."
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:19:26 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 11:15:38 AMHow, when you think of Philadelphia residents, few stereotypes pop up in one's mind, unlike for residents of the other major northeastern metros.

What? This is wild. There are TONS of Philly stereotypes, varying from sports and food to history and culture.


Not nearly as many as are applied to Boston.

That depends on where you live. I hear far more stereotypes (almost all of them very negative) about Philadelphia residents, no doubt because when you live in the DC area you encounter Philadelphia sports fans on a regular basis due to our respective cities' major pro teams* playing in the same division.

*Before someone squawks, I'm not counting DC's basketball team as "major." They've had two separate 16-game losing streaks this season alone.

I've had two comments now bringing up the reputation of Philadelphia's sports fans as a retort to my point. That actually proves my point. That hardly compares to the stigma attached to DC residents for living in the nation's capital or Boston for its Irish heritage, abundance of colleges, and its liberal politics.

That is your opinion, not a fact, and I said absolutely nothing to "prove" anything you said. I never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point, but when I hear that it's generally applied to Massachusetts as a whole, not just to the city.

Same shit, different day: People disagree with kernals12 and he's too thin-skinned to be able to deal with it.

Ha...yep.

kphoger

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 02:19:26 PMI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point, but when I hear that it's generally applied to Massachusetts as a whole, not just to the city.

Not even just Massachusetts, from my perspective, but pretty much the whole Northeast except maybe Maine.

Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:22:02 PMYou never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

I hear it all the time.  But that's not a stereotype, just an accent.  If you want to include accents, though, I'd say that a Philly accent is nearly as well known as a Boston accent.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

1995hoo

Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2025, 03:25:47 PM....

I hear it all the time.  But that's not a stereotype, just an accent.  If you want to include accents, though, I'd say that a Philly accent is nearly as well known as a Boston accent.

Funny, I would rank New York, especially Brooklyn, as better-known than either of those, but no doubt part of that may well be because my mother's two sisters have fairly strong stereotypical Brooklyn accents. I'd say it's odd that they do and my mother doesn't, but my mother moved to Virginia in the 1960s when she married my father and she seldom even adds the "r" to the end of words anymore (when I was a little kid, she would say "umbreller" or "soder"), so I guess living elsewhere for over 50 years caused her to lose that accent to the extent she may have had it before I was born.

I don't have a discerning enough ear to be able to tell where in New York City someone is from simply from the way he speaks (my father was able to do that), but I've certainly said to people, "Where in New York are you from?" based solely on their speech.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kphoger

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 03:32:14 PMFunny, I would rank New York, especially Brooklyn, as better-known than either of those

I would too, but the conversation was about Philadelphia and Boston.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

hbelkins

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Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2025, 03:53:29 PMLook at Princess Diana.  Their obsession led to her death. I'm sure the couple, too, wants their privacy.

I would disagree with that assertion. The reckless behavior of her driver caused the traffic collision that killed her.

As far as Taylor Swift goes, I wouldn't recognize one of her songs if I heard it. I wouldn't know Taylor Swift from Taylor Dayne.
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kphoger

Quote from: hbelkins on February 14, 2025, 03:39:30 PMI would disagree with that assertion. The reckless behavior of her driver caused the traffic collision that killed her.

Well, sure, but the driver might not have driven so recklessly if the paparazzi hadn't been hounding them.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

1995hoo

Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2025, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 03:32:14 PMFunny, I would rank New York, especially Brooklyn, as better-known than either of those

I would too, but the conversation was about Philadelphia and Boston.

Nicely done!  :-D  :-D  :-D
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kernals12

A few years after recording Total Eclipse of the Heart, which had the lyric "Turn around, bright eyes", Bonnie Tyler did a cover of Tina Turner's Don't Turn Around

kphoger

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 03:55:27 PMNicely done!  :-D  :-D  :-D

If I made a good joke, then I really wish someone would explain it to me.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

1995hoo

Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2025, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 14, 2025, 03:55:27 PMNicely done!  :-D  :-D  :-D

If I made a good joke, then I really wish someone would explain it to me.

I sent you a PM explaining. I was more making fun of myself with that comment.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:22:02 PM
QuoteI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point

Really? You never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

I'd argue that this (and variants thereof) are usually a stereotype of the East Coast in general, not Boston specifically.


You are quite wrong.  Read it again very slowly.
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That particular one is in Boston (well, Cambridge), but other regions have their own like "Lawn Guyland".
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thspfc

Quote from: hbelkins on February 14, 2025, 03:39:30 PMAs far as Taylor Swift goes, I wouldn't recognize one of her songs if I heard it. I wouldn't know Taylor Swift from Taylor Dayne.
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Most of my Bostonian experience comes from Twitch streamer Jerma985.

As for the thing about Philadelphia sports fans, I can't say shit, considering there were major riots in 1993 when the Habs last won the Stanley Cup, and I remember riots happening in the late 2000s whenever they got far enough in the playoffs.
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webny99

Quote from: Rothman on February 14, 2025, 06:50:51 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2025, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2025, 02:22:02 PM
QuoteI never hear any the Boston stereotypes you reference other than the left-wing point

Really? You never heard the "Pahk the Cah in Hahvahd Yahd" gag?

I'd argue that this (and variants thereof) are usually a stereotype of the East Coast in general, not Boston specifically.


You are quite wrong.  Read it again very slowly.

Yep...



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