Ohio

[vtk]

... The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include ... the installation of new ... pavement markings.
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Doing a full-depth reconstruction without new pavement markings would be an impressive feat (or a severe safety downgrade)

[wanderer2575]

... The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include ... the installation of new ... pavement markings.
...

Doing a full-depth reconstruction without new pavement markings would be an impressive feat (or a severe safety downgrade)

Also:  "Full-depth replacement and resurfacing."  Huh?

[Bitmapped]

U.S. Route 250 Pavement Improvement Project in Harrison County

The project will rehabilitate a nearly four-mile section of pavement along U.S. Route 250, extending from State Route 151 to the Tappan Lake Rest Area. The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include drainage improvements, such as the installation of new culverts, along with new guardrails and pavement markings.

ODOT Districts 9, 10, and 11 have been doing a number of these reconstruction projects in recent years. US 250 west of SR 151 was similarly rebuilt circa 2023. I am not a fan of ODOT's plans to do a 5-month long shutdown of the highway for this project. Either widen the shoulders so two-way traffic can be maintained or work around the clock to get things reopened if you cannot, but closing a major regional corridor with no good detour for an entire construction season is ridiculous.

[seicer]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

[wriddle082]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

I should mention that somewhere east of Tappan Lake (I don't think it's immediately east of the Tappan Lake rest area, but east of the lake itself), US 250 is actually concrete most of the rest of the way to US 22.  Yes, a concrete two lane roadway.  I suppose this became a thing the last time they did a complete roadway closure for reconstruction in this area.

[Bitmapped]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

A several-months-long closure for replacing the existing surface with full-depth asphalt on the existing alignment doesn't seem all that expedited. This isn't Indiana or western Ohio where roads mostly follow a grid pattern and there is an easy detour around closed sections. The closure means ~4500 vehicles per day are going to be detoured 15+ minutes out of the way, including recreational traffic towing boats and campers going to Tappan Lake.

As a detour, SR 151 adds 15 minutes of travel time for traffic going to/from places along the US 250 corridor. SR 800 adds 20+ minutes, turning a 26-minute trip from Uhrichsville to Cadiz into 48 minutes.

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

SR 800 is decent (45-50mph average sustained travel) from Dennison to Freeport. Freeport to US 22, and then especially US 22 to I-70, are significantly worse with a number of 25mph curves.

Bowerston to Scio is definitely the weak part of the SR 151 corridor. I wouldn't want to be steering a bunch of trucks, boats, and RVs onto it or SR 646.

I should mention that somewhere east of Tappan Lake (I don't think it's immediately east of the Tappan Lake rest area, but east of the lake itself), US 250 is actually concrete most of the rest of the way to US 22.  Yes, a concrete two lane roadway.  I suppose this became a thing the last time they did a complete roadway closure for reconstruction in this area.

The part east of Tappan Lake was rebuilt in concrete circa 2010. ODOT District 11 was enamored with the concept for a while. Similar work was done in Belmont County on SR 149(?).

[seicer]

I would expect a group with people who work with various DOTs to know that construction takes more than several days to complete. This screams armchairing which is what I would expect from random people on Facebook. 😒 Several months to completely regrade the alignment, rebuild 50+ year old drainage structures, remove existing pavement, and replace it with new material is entirely feasible. I followed the other half of this project more closely, and the timeline was affected by that, as well as the coordination required to keep segments open for local travel to homes and businesses along the roadway.

[carbaugh2]

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

Yes, this area is in the heart of Ohio's oil exploration window. I'm sure that there are a lot of collection trucks along with semis hauling heavy machinery for drilling the new wells. Maybe they should rebuild this section with full concrete, too, with all of the weight that will be traveling on it.

[JREwing78]

There's enough traffic on US-250 that a one-lane closure would've been folly. OH-151 isn't exactly a great road to send 7500 vehicles per day down, but it'll handle the job for one season.

I wish ODOT had at least configured the rebuild to extend SE to the OH-646 intersection, if not down to the existing concrete section. If you're going to shut the whole road down, take advantage of it and get it done in one season.