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[vtk]

... The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include ... the installation of new ... pavement markings.
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Doing a full-depth reconstruction without new pavement markings would be an impressive feat (or a severe safety downgrade)

[wanderer2575]

... The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include ... the installation of new ... pavement markings.
...

Doing a full-depth reconstruction without new pavement markings would be an impressive feat (or a severe safety downgrade)

Also:  "Full-depth replacement and resurfacing."  Huh?

[Bitmapped]

U.S. Route 250 Pavement Improvement Project in Harrison County

The project will rehabilitate a nearly four-mile section of pavement along U.S. Route 250, extending from State Route 151 to the Tappan Lake Rest Area. The existing concrete base will be removed and replaced, and the pavement will undergo full-depth replacement and resurfacing. Additionally, the project will include drainage improvements, such as the installation of new culverts, along with new guardrails and pavement markings.

ODOT Districts 9, 10, and 11 have been doing a number of these reconstruction projects in recent years. US 250 west of SR 151 was similarly rebuilt circa 2023. I am not a fan of ODOT's plans to do a 5-month long shutdown of the highway for this project. Either widen the shoulders so two-way traffic can be maintained or work around the clock to get things reopened if you cannot, but closing a major regional corridor with no good detour for an entire construction season is ridiculous.

[seicer]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

[wriddle082]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

I should mention that somewhere east of Tappan Lake (I don't think it's immediately east of the Tappan Lake rest area, but east of the lake itself), US 250 is actually concrete most of the rest of the way to US 22.  Yes, a concrete two lane roadway.  I suppose this became a thing the last time they did a complete roadway closure for reconstruction in this area.

[Bitmapped]

It follows the pattern of what INDOT does—full roadway closures for roadway paving. This increases worker safety while expediting work. However, generally, alternate routes are available—SR 800 or SR 151 are suitable bypasses.

A several-months-long closure for replacing the existing surface with full-depth asphalt on the existing alignment doesn't seem all that expedited. This isn't Indiana or western Ohio where roads mostly follow a grid pattern and there is an easy detour around closed sections. The closure means ~4500 vehicles per day are going to be detoured 15+ minutes out of the way, including recreational traffic towing boats and campers going to Tappan Lake.

As a detour, SR 151 adds 15 minutes of travel time for traffic going to/from places along the US 250 corridor. SR 800 adds 20+ minutes, turning a 26-minute trip from Uhrichsville to Cadiz into 48 minutes.

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

SR 800 is decent (45-50mph average sustained travel) from Dennison to Freeport. Freeport to US 22, and then especially US 22 to I-70, are significantly worse with a number of 25mph curves.

Bowerston to Scio is definitely the weak part of the SR 151 corridor. I wouldn't want to be steering a bunch of trucks, boats, and RVs onto it or SR 646.

I should mention that somewhere east of Tappan Lake (I don't think it's immediately east of the Tappan Lake rest area, but east of the lake itself), US 250 is actually concrete most of the rest of the way to US 22.  Yes, a concrete two lane roadway.  I suppose this became a thing the last time they did a complete roadway closure for reconstruction in this area.

The part east of Tappan Lake was rebuilt in concrete circa 2010. ODOT District 11 was enamored with the concept for a while. Similar work was done in Belmont County on SR 149(?).

[seicer]

I would expect a group with people who work with various DOTs to know that construction takes more than several days to complete. This screams armchairing which is what I would expect from random people on Facebook. 😒 Several months to completely regrade the alignment, rebuild 50+ year old drainage structures, remove existing pavement, and replace it with new material is entirely feasible. I followed the other half of this project more closely, and the timeline was affected by that, as well as the coordination required to keep segments open for local travel to homes and businesses along the roadway.

[carbaugh2]

I'm not familiar with SR 800 south of Dennison, but SR 151 east of Bowerston to at least Scio (which I had been driving quite a bit pretty recently for work in the area) is a bit treacherous.  The speed limit is 50, but honestly it ought to be as low as 40.  Lots of crude oil trucks in this area as well (I believe this is fracking country).  Hopefully weather cooperates and this work gets finished up very quickly so this detour won't last long.

Yes, this area is in the heart of Ohio's oil exploration window. I'm sure that there are a lot of collection trucks along with semis hauling heavy machinery for drilling the new wells. Maybe they should rebuild this section with full concrete, too, with all of the weight that will be traveling on it.

[JREwing78]

There's enough traffic on US-250 that a one-lane closure would've been folly. OH-151 isn't exactly a great road to send 7500 vehicles per day down, but it'll handle the job for one season.

I wish ODOT had at least configured the rebuild to extend SE to the OH-646 intersection, if not down to the existing concrete section. If you're going to shut the whole road down, take advantage of it and get it done in one season.

[Great Lakes Roads]

Starting in late-2026/early-2027, a section of the Cleveland Memorial Shoreway (OH SR 2) between E 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue (the section that goes over the rail tracks) will be demolished and replaced with a surface street.

[vtk]

Why?

[bandit957]

Why?

Because it bips.

[thenetwork]

Starting in late-2026/early-2027, a section of the Cleveland Memorial Shoreway (OH SR 2) between E 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue (the section that goes over the rail tracks) will be demolished and replaced with a surface street.

Might as well start calling all of the WEST Shoreway a boulevard all the way to the Dead Man's Curve split with I-90.

I thought I read they want to put an at-grade intersection to connect with East 18th Street, which should alleviate some East 9th traffic.

And while we are on the subject of SR-2 and the West Shoreway, with the upcoming boulevard downgrades, I think this would be the right time for ODOT to soon consider rerouting the SR-2 alignment.

I propose keeping SR-2 routed along I-90 from it's current parting at Detroit Avenue in Rocky River all the way to Dead Man's Curve via the Innerbelt.

Up until the 1980's it made sense to route SR‐2 via surface streets on the west side as I-90 wasn't completed yet.  Currently, SR-2 is multiplexed with SR-254 and moreso US-6 from Rocky River all the way to the west end of the Main Avenue Bridge downtown.  Meanwhile, SR-2 is already multiplexed AND signed on I-90 on both sides of town.  Keeping SR-2 on I-90 through town keeps it more consistent.

ODOT could always move and extend SR-283 from the East 72nd exit of I-90 down to the Main Avenue Bridge/US-6 Junction and would replace SR-2 on whats left of the West Shoreway.  SR-2 would then be all-freeway from its eastern terminus near Painesville all the way to just west of Port Clinton.

[Bitmapped]

I thought I read they want to put an at-grade intersection to connect with East 18th Street, which should alleviate some East 9th traffic.

This seems unlikely considering a new overpass of the railroad tracks would be needed.

And while we are on the subject of SR-2 and the West Shoreway, with the upcoming boulevard downgrades, I think this would be the right time for ODOT to soon consider rerouting the SR-2 alignment.

I propose keeping SR-2 routed along I-90 from it's current parting at Detroit Avenue in Rocky River all the way to Dead Man's Curve via the Innerbelt.

Up until the 1980's it made sense to route SR‐2 via surface streets on the west side as I-90 wasn't completed yet.  Currently, SR-2 is multiplexed with SR-254 and moreso US-6 from Rocky River all the way to the west end of the Main Avenue Bridge downtown.  Meanwhile, SR-2 is already multiplexed AND signed on I-90 on both sides of town.  Keeping SR-2 on I-90 through town keeps it more consistent.

ODOT could always move and extend SR-283 from the East 72nd exit of I-90 down to the Main Avenue Bridge/US-6 Junction and would replace SR-2 on whats left of the West Shoreway.  SR-2 would then be all-freeway from its eastern terminus near Painesville all the way to just west of Port Clinton.

If you're going to take SR 2 off the West Shoreway, just truncate it back to the I-90 merge back by Elyria and give the eastern segment from Euclid to Painesville a new number. I don't see a compelling reason to sign a 40-mile multiplex just to keep another 20-mile independent segment.

[Sykotyk]

Starting in late-2026/early-2027, a section of the Cleveland Memorial Shoreway (OH SR 2) between E 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue (the section that goes over the rail tracks) will be demolished and replaced with a surface street.

So they're just using W 3rd to Summit to Lakeside/OH2?

Guess it won't matter except game days as long as the Browns still play at the stadium. Currently they close down the street south of the stadium during game days, and one-way W 3rd for limited traffic going around the stadium but the bridge from the stadium becomes pedestrian crossing only. Usually petering out somewhere around St. Clair when traffic is allowed back on it again.

Without a bridge over the tracks, any traffic during game day to OH2 west of town will have to go through town. And you can't use W 9th, either, due to pedestrian traffic and redirecting traffic.

[thenetwork]

Starting in late-2026/early-2027, a section of the Cleveland Memorial Shoreway (OH SR 2) between E 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue (the section that goes over the rail tracks) will be demolished and replaced with a surface street.

So they're just using W 3rd to Summit to Lakeside/OH2?

Guess it won't matter except game days as long as the Browns still play at the stadium. Currently they close down the street south of the stadium during game days, and one-way W 3rd for limited traffic going around the stadium but the bridge from the stadium becomes pedestrian crossing only. Usually petering out somewhere around St. Clair when traffic is allowed back on it again.

Without a bridge over the tracks, any traffic during game day to OH2 west of town will have to go through town. And you can't use W 9th, either, due to pedestrian traffic and redirecting traffic.

With the exception of event days at the current football stadium, getting from Dead Man's Curve to the end of the freew,...er Boulevard by Edgewater Park and the Lake/Clifton/West Blvd. feeder streets is/was a fairly easy trip of under 10 minutes, even during most rush hours. 

Now, with this plan to take out the easternmost section of the Main Avenue Bridge, getting from DMC to the neighborhoods closest to the lake will involve spending considerable time zig-zagging over downtown streets, with no viable alternatives.

Using the Innerbelt, all the downtown exits put you no closer than East 22nd.  The next exit you could take to get to closest to the lakeshore neighborhoods is Abbey Avenue, which takes you over to West 25th St and Lorain. 

In all scenarios with the new plan in place, taking out that short stretch of West Shoreway bridge will totally eliminate any non-stop connection between I-90/DMC and the near-west lakeshore neighborhoods and will likely double the commute time at the very least.

[SkyPesos]

Noticed that two new 3di signs in the Cincinnati area are using Series D font for the "275". Has this been occurring in other areas of the state too? ODOT has been pretty consistent with using Series C for 3dis without a digit of 1 for at least the past 10 or so years.

I-275 exit from OH 32: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3ZrL15DSRWbzucGt5
I-275 exit from I-71:

[TempoNick]

Noticed that two new 3di signs in the Cincinnati area are using Series D font for the "275". Has this been occurring in other areas of the state too? ODOT has been pretty consistent with using Series C for 3dis without a digit of 1 for at least the past 10 or so years.

I-275 exit from OH 32: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3ZrL15DSRWbzucGt5
I-275 exit from I-71:

For a while, there was a little bit of a mishmash of fonts when it comes to shields.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SnQqcb6AVxLJ5Jc26

On the US shields, they used to use a bolder version of the font. It looks like lately they've gone back to signs that look like earlier versions

[bandit957]

I like the skinny font for 3-digit Interstates. I think they had a bunch of those for I-275 on the east side of Cincinnati that were replaced just recently.

[carbaugh2]

Upcoming Public Open House for the State Route 37 Corridor Planning Study

JACKSONTOWN - The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) invites community members to participate in an upcoming public open house to learn about and share feedback on the State Route 37 Corridor Planning Study, currently underway in Delaware and Licking Counties.

Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2025
Morning Session: 9:00–11:00 a.m.
Evening Session: 6:00–8:00 p.m.
Location: Big Walnut High School
713 Miller Drive, Sunbury, OH 43074

ODOT is evaluating the SR 37 corridor to identify feasible solutions that improve existing roadway conditions and support future traffic demands driven by development and land use changes.
The study has examined 36 intersections with the following goals:
•    Address current safety concerns and congestion.
•    Project and plan for traffic growth related to development.
•    Identify solutions achievable within the next 10 years.

The public is asked to attend this open-house meeting, which will provide an opportunity to learn more about the project and potential improvements. The public is encouraged to provide feedback and ask questions before final recommendations are made.

Comments may be submitted at the meeting, on the project website provided below, or via the contact information provided. While feedback is welcome at any time, comments received by August 30, 2025, will be formally documented as part of the study process.

Questions or comments regarding the project may be directed to Erin Sheidlower, project manager, via the contact information below.
•    Email: Erin.Sheidlower@dot.ohio.gov
•    Phone: (614) 387-4002
•    Mail: Erin Sheidlower, ODOT Central Office, 1980 W Broad St., Columbus, Ohio 43223

Please see the project website below for additional information.
Project Website: https://publicinput.com/SR37Study

Based on the image that came with the email, this study is covering State Route 37 between US 23 in Delaware and State Route 161 just outside of Alexandria.

[vtk]

I'm considering leaving a comment about how I strongly disagree with the move to make this part of state route 37 almost a century ago. Of course I know they're not going to split the route apart again. I just disagree that much.

[TempoNick]

According to a recent Dispatch article, portions of I-270 are among the busiest sections of highway in Ohio. It seems to me that the "Outer-Outerbelt" is long overdue.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2025/06/28/what-are-the-busiest-highways-in-ohio-cleveland-columbus-cincinnati/84263609007/

Busiest Road segments in Ohio:

1. Interstate 271 from US 422 to Harvard Road, Cuyahoga County, 170,460 average vehicles per day
2. Interstate 270 from Morse Road to U.S. Route 62, Franklin County, 168,267 average vehicles per day
3. Interstate 270 from North High Street to Interstate 71, Franklin County, 164,752 average vehicles per day
4. Interstate 270 from SR-315 to North High Street, Franklin County, 163,101 average vehicles per day
5. Interstate 270 from East Dublin-Granville Road to Morse Road, Franklin County, 161,728 average vehicles per day
6. Interstate 480 from Broadway Avenue to Warrensville-Center Road, Cuyahoga County, 160,833 average vehicles per day
7. Interstate 271 from Miles Road to U.S. Route 422, Cuyahoga County, 160,517 average vehicles per day
8. Interstate 271 from Harvard Road to Chagrin Boulevard, Cuyahoga County, 156,632 average vehicles per day
9. Interstate 480 from Interstate 77 to Transportation Boulevard, Cuyahoga County, 155,703 average vehicles per day
10. Interstate 270 from Interstate 71 to Cleveland Avenue, Franklin County, 155,435 average vehicles per day

[PColumbus73]

I think I-270 could be better with an express/local system like I-271. The OH 161 - Easton Way segment has it started but would be better if ODOT extended it around the beltway.

[The Ghostbuster]

Would it be possible to add an express/local lanes system to Interstate 270 without extensive right-of-way acquisitions?

[GCrites]

I think it would between OH-3 and Sawmill Rd. but the usage rate would probably be low considering the existing left lane sees little use. Everyone wants on or off at one of the exits.