The Futility of Twin Cities’ Sports

[SEWIGuy]

Of the 22 metropolitan areas with teams in at least three of the four major professional sports leagues, the Twin Cities is not only the only one not to win at least one championship in the last 30 years, but they haven't advanced a team to the championship game or series during that timeframe either.

The 22 include: Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, Atlanta, South Florida, Tampa, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee (including Packers), Toronto, Twin Cities, St. Louis*, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Phoenix, LA, Bay Area, Seattle.

St. Louis had three teams during that timeframe but are now down to two with the loss of the Rams.

[hotdogPi]

They won the PWHL last year and are likely to do it again (currently 2-1 in a best of 5).


Edit: They won. Two in a row.

[thspfc]

Could've waited a few more days until we know the no-championship-appearence streak will last another several months at least.

[webny99]

Could've waited a few more days until we know the no-championship-appearence streak will last another several months at least.

Yeah, I was wondering if this was some sort of reverse-jinx. At the very least strange timing with the T-wolves actively playing in the NBA conference finals.

[mgk920]

Could've waited a few more days until we know the no-championship-appearence streak will last another several months at least.

Yeah, I was wondering if this was some sort of reverse-jinx. At the very least strange timing with the T-wolves actively playing in the NBA conference finals.

If the Lakers were still in Minneapolis . . .

Mike

[Mapmikey]

Could've waited a few more days until we know the no-championship-appearence streak will last another several months at least.

Yeah, I was wondering if this was some sort of reverse-jinx. At the very least strange timing with the T-wolves actively playing in the NBA conference finals.

If the Lakers were still in Minneapolis . . .

Mike

You could've had Magic Johnson running Snowtime...

[SEWIGuy]

Could've waited a few more days until we know the no-championship-appearence streak will last another several months at least.

Yeah, I was wondering if this was some sort of reverse-jinx. At the very least strange timing with the T-wolves actively playing in the NBA conference finals.

No I am not a fan of any of the teams - just thought it was interesting.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Despite the failures of the men's sports, it's one of the strongest markets for women's sports right now. The Lynx have made 6 title appearances in the last 15 years, going 4-2. and the new PWHL Frost have won both of that league's championships that have been held so far.

Does anyone care? I don't expect them to. But there is another side to the coin at least.

[Henry]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

[SEWIGuy]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

[JayhawkCO]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

[mgk920]

Milwaukeeans are even more rabid Packer fans that are those of northeast Wisconsin.

Yea 'Wisconsin' Packers. Just like with the Minneapolis Twins, Minneapolis Wild, Minneapolis Vikings and Minneapolis Timberwolves.

Mike

[jgb191]

In addition to the Twin Cities, I don't ever remember seeing any San Diego team anywhere near winning a World Championship in any sport in this century.  I also don't remember ever seeing a Cincinnati team hoist a World Championship trophy in any sport.  And the following states have never had a championship parade:  North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah.

[Max Rockatansky]

In addition to the Twin Cities, I don't ever remember seeing any San Diego team anywhere near winning a World Championship in any sport in this century.  I also don't remember ever seeing a Cincinnati team hoist a World Championship trophy in any sport.  And the following states have never had a championship parade:  North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah.

Some of my first memories are of watching the Tigers play the Padres in the 1984 World Series.  I guess it doesn't hurt that growing up in Detroit highlights from that series were on TV regularly until the 1990s.

[JayhawkCO]

Milwaukeeans are even more rabid Packer fans that are those of northeast Wisconsin.

Yea 'Wisconsin' Packers. Just like with the Minneapolis Twins, Minneapolis Wild, Minneapolis Vikings and Minneapolis Timberwolves.

Mike

I'm confused. Are you disagreeing with me?

[SEWIGuy]

In addition to the Twin Cities, I don't ever remember seeing any San Diego team anywhere near winning a World Championship in any sport in this century.  I also don't remember ever seeing a Cincinnati team hoist a World Championship trophy in any sport.  And the following states have never had a championship parade:  North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah.

San Diego yes. Right now they only have one of the four major sports though. I remember the Reds winning a World Series in the early 90s.

[SEWIGuy]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

[kphoger]

I remember the Reds winning a World Series in the early 90s.

October 1990, against the Oakland As

[JayhawkCO]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

[SEWIGuy]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

My reason for assigning the Packers to Milwaukee has nothing to do with the entire state cheering for them. The relationship between the team and Milwaukee is way different than with other Wisconsin cities like Madison and Wausau.

[JayhawkCO]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

My reason for assigning the Packers to Milwaukee has nothing to do with the entire state cheering for them. The relationship between the team and Milwaukee is way different than with other Wisconsin cities like Madison and Wausau.

Not since when though? 1994?

[SEWIGuy]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

My reason for assigning the Packers to Milwaukee has nothing to do with the entire state cheering for them. The relationship between the team and Milwaukee is way different than with other Wisconsin cities like Madison and Wausau.

Not since when though? 1994?

Until now. People who had season tickets to the Milwaukee games still have two dedicated games a season now.

[Big John]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

My reason for assigning the Packers to Milwaukee has nothing to do with the entire state cheering for them. The relationship between the team and Milwaukee is way different than with other Wisconsin cities like Madison and Wausau.

Not since when though? 1994?

Until now. People who had season tickets to the Milwaukee games still have two dedicated games a season now.

Now 2 or 3. When the Packers have 9 home games, like last year, the 9th home game will be assigned to the Gold (Milwaukee) package holders.

[SEWIGuy]

I wouldn't count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. That would be like Charlotte claiming the Hurricanes (a Raleigh team) as their own.

Not even close. The Packers used to play in Milwaukee and those who had season tickets to those games still have access to season tickets now. They even hosted NFL championship games in Milwaukee. It's been Milwaukee's spiritual NFL team from the start.

I'll somehow disagree with both of you. It is close, because the Packers are essentially the "Wisconsin Packers" just like Carolina is named after the state too. If you support a football team in Wisconsin, you likely support the Packers. If you support a hockey team in North Carolina, you likely support the 'Canes.

The Hurricanes never regularly played home games in Charlotte.

I'm aware, but it doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't cheer for them. It's not like living in New York for football where you have three teams that at least claim to be in New York. Or Rangers vs. Astros. Or Penguins vs. Flyers.

No one in Charlotte is "claiming" the 'Canes. No one in Milwaukee is "claiming" the Packers. That said, probably north of 90% of that sport's fans in those cities are still cheering for the "home team".

My reason for assigning the Packers to Milwaukee has nothing to do with the entire state cheering for them. The relationship between the team and Milwaukee is way different than with other Wisconsin cities like Madison and Wausau.

Not since when though? 1994?

Until now. People who had season tickets to the Milwaukee games still have two dedicated games a season now.

Now 2 or 3. When the Packers have 9 home games, like last year, the 9th home game will be assigned to the Gold (Milwaukee) package holders.

Ah. Good point.

[JayhawkCO]

Fair enough. I was unaware of that fact.