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I just got fired

Started by kernals12, April 17, 2025, 05:27:17 PM

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kernals12

Quote from: Molandfreak on June 16, 2025, 03:37:51 PMAnd here I am a month after graduating with my masters still trying to get hired.  :-(

It took me 6 months to get my first job after I graduated college.


Max Rockatansky

Applicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

Rothman

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2025, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.

One where I found the solution to be to work and go to school full time.  The sacrifice was pretty much having no personal life for several years.  I don't foresee my approach being for everyone, especially those who are young.

Molandfreak

Thankfully I had a 6-month paid internship which got my foot in the door.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

kernals12

Sit rep: my Dad had the brilliant idea of having me work for his family's business. Before you ask, I am doing real work, albeit for only 15 hours a week. It fills a gap on my resume and is a far more dignified way to pay for rent and electricity than begging my parents for money.

Rothman

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2025, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.

One where I found the solution to be to work and go to school full time.  The sacrifice was pretty much having no personal life for several years.  I don't foresee my approach being for everyone, especially those who are young.

Yeah, I didn't find it necessary to go to such lengths.  Got a job as a paralegal right out of college.  Internships aligned with my career search after grad school got me to where I am today.

As I've hired and interviewed a whole lot of people, experience and skills developed does matter much, much more than the degree.  A degree is just a check box.  Experience tells me what you can do.

Recently interviewed a woman that simply has no direction or passion for whatever it is she wants to do.  Came to us "by default."  Her lack of enthusiasm or interest was evident in the interview.  Sure, she met the minimum qualifications, but the job market is too competitive for me to settle for someone who most likely would be deadwood in the office after about six months.
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Rothman

Quote from: kernals12 on June 18, 2025, 01:32:19 PMSit rep: my Dad had the brilliant idea of having me work for his family's business. Before you ask, I am doing real work, albeit for only 15 hours a week. It fills a gap on my resume and is a far more dignified way to pay for rent and electricity than begging my parents for money.

Privilege was a glaring omission in our discussion heretofore...
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Big John

Quote from: Molandfreak on June 18, 2025, 01:01:59 PMThankfully I had a 6-month paid internship which got my foot in the door.
I did that too, but it didn't help. Worked odd jobs after college until I was finally hired for my major 18 months after graduation.

Scott5114

Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2025, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.

Pay $100 to file an LLC. Put that you're company president at that LLC on your resume. Say you spent your time doing what you're good at. They can look up  the LLC on the state website and see that the company exists, so you aren't lying to them. If they actually call the LLC, they get you. You're a very approachable company president, it turns out.
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edwaleni

Reddit is currently getting slammed with either "I got fired, what do I do?" posts or "I can't find a job, what do I do?" posts.

So when I saw it here, I was like doing a double take.

edwaleni

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 18, 2025, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2025, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.

Pay $100 to file an LLC. Put that you're company president at that LLC on your resume. Say you spent your time doing what you're good at. They can look up  the LLC on the state website and see that the company exists, so you aren't lying to them. If they actually call the LLC, they get you. You're a very approachable company president, it turns out.

I did this many years ago. Filed for an EIN, opened a bank account in the company name, even got credit. But you do need "some" revenue. Many states require you file a general revenue statement with them and that gets included in their records. Depending on their sunshine laws they will post your revenue filing online.

It's not illegal to file zero revenue, but if the state posts it online then you might asked why during a background check.

Scott5114

Quote from: edwaleni on June 19, 2025, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 18, 2025, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 18, 2025, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2025, 12:36:39 PMApplicable work experience is probably more valuable early on in career development than college. 

A fine catch-22.

Pay $100 to file an LLC. Put that you're company president at that LLC on your resume. Say you spent your time doing what you're good at. They can look up  the LLC on the state website and see that the company exists, so you aren't lying to them. If they actually call the LLC, they get you. You're a very approachable company president, it turns out.

I did this many years ago. Filed for an EIN, opened a bank account in the company name, even got credit. But you do need "some" revenue. Many states require you file a general revenue statement with them and that gets included in their records. Depending on their sunshine laws they will post your revenue filing online.

It's not illegal to file zero revenue, but if the state posts it online then you might asked why during a background check.

Revenue is irrelevant to LLCs in Oklahoma, so you could just open one there, or some other state that doesn't require that. The main purpose of an LLC is to shift the liability in the case of lawsuits to a company rather than a natural person, so revenue is not really relevant to that—after all there are plenty of holding-company LLCs that don't actually make or lose any money.

Realistically, though, I don't think an HR person or hiring manager has the time to dig into the financials of a company a candidate says they worked at.
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kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 20, 2025, 01:41:33 AMThe main purpose of an LLC is to shift the ... register your RV in a state whose tax structure is more advantageous than your own.

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TheCatalyst31

Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2025, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 20, 2025, 01:41:33 AMThe main purpose of an LLC is to shift the ... register your RV in a state whose tax structure is more advantageous than your own.

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And that state is probably Montana, based on all the "register your car in Montana for $49" ads I've seen.

Scott5114

There are some states, notably Texas, that will allow you to register a car without an address in that state. I found out this was possible when I was a kid from one of my Boy Scout leaders, who registered his car in Texas simply because he liked the space-shuttle plate, which was current at the time.

This is actually a problem in Nevada, because people will register their cars in Texas because it's cheaper than Nevada, and thus use NDOT's services without funding it. You can be subject to a hefty fine if it is discovered that you are keeping a car in Nevada without registering it here, but the only way that would happen would be having the bad luck of running afoul of NHP, having the really bad luck of a DMV uniformed officer finding you, or Metro actually conducting a traffic stop.
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Rothman

Yeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.
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kernals12

Quote from: Rothman on June 21, 2025, 02:30:26 AMYeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.
But presumably very large fines for those who are.

Scott5114

Quote from: kernals12 on June 21, 2025, 02:34:37 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 21, 2025, 02:30:26 AMYeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.
But presumably very large fines for those who are.

In Nevada, you have to pay the registration for the entire time between when you should have registered the car and the present day, plus $6 per month.
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Molandfreak

#144
Until very recently, you still had to report for annual inspections for every vehicle registered in Texas, which made me wonder what all the fuss was about in the first place since that is a huge inconvenience unless you're living in a neighboring jurisdiction.

Also in Montana and South Dakota, you can register most ATVs as motorcycles. This is a common thing to do in some of Minnesota's counties, but most rural counties will issue a road permit that is good for all city steeets, county, and township roads for a small fee. Cook County doesn't even require a permit, and any off-highway vehicle is free to use the county's highways.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

1995hoo

Quote from: Rothman on June 21, 2025, 02:30:26 AMYeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.

I know in Virginia unless you have an exemption (e.g., active-duty Armed Forces; student at a university), you're supposed to register both with the Commonwealth and with the local jurisdiction within 30 days of arrival. The latter is for car tax purposes. Some years back, there was a guy across the street from us who had a car parked in his driveway with expired New Jersey plates. One day he didn't like the way my wife was parked on the street and left a nasty note on her windshield. So to get back at him, I reported his car to Fairfax County. They added it to the tax rolls and also charged him a $100 "no plate fee" because he had failed to obtain Virginia license plates as required. (I know this from the county, not from him, of course. When you've reported a car as a possible tax evader, you can search by plate number for the status of that investigation.)

It's not at all unusual to see Maryland-plated cars regularly parked in Virginia. Most of us assume they're owned by Virginia residents who are trying to evade personal property tax (aka car tax).
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formulanone

#146
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2025, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 20, 2025, 01:41:33 AMThe main purpose of an LLC is to shift the ... register your RV in a state whose tax structure is more advantageous than your own.

edited for accuracy

Montana seems to be a haven for that practice; many expensive non-commercial vehicles have Montana plates.

But hey, Alabama once issued a plate for a race car so it could be road-legal in Europe...


kphoger

This is actually a legitimate concern of expats living in Mexico, who have no actual residence in the USA anymore, but who haven't worked their way up through the visa system to the point of registering their vehicle in Mexico.  South Dakota is, I believe, a popular option for registering.

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Takumi

#148
Quote from: formulanone on June 21, 2025, 09:03:46 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2025, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 20, 2025, 01:41:33 AMThe main purpose of an LLC is to shift the ... register your RV in a state whose tax structure is more advantageous than your own.

edited for accuracy

Montana seems to be a haven for that practice; many expensive non-commercial vehicles have Montana plates.

But hey, Alabama once issued a plate for a race car so it could be road-legal in Europe...



A similar thing happened with a Nissan R390. This means that there are now more road-legal R390s than there were built (granted, Nissan only built one road car). I wonder how many other cars can say that (excluding kit car replicas).
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