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Started by Interstate Trav, April 28, 2011, 12:58:30 AM

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The Ghostbuster

Construction of the US 93/future Interstate 11-to-Interstate 40 connector has finally appeared on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2000925,-114.0744966,1860m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D.


Bobby5280

It's also visible in Google Earth. Pretty recent imagery too (5/2/2025).

dbz77

So it will be the first piece of the 11 to be constructed in Arizona.

Sonic99

Quote from: dbz77 on July 06, 2025, 12:15:55 PMSo it will be the first piece of the 11 to be constructed in Arizona.

Arizona has shown zero interest in officially signing anything as I-11. They've also seemingly gone quiet in referring to I-11 at all, only referring to US 93 for this project.
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stevashe

Quote from: Sonic99 on July 07, 2025, 07:53:17 AM
Quote from: dbz77 on July 06, 2025, 12:15:55 PMSo it will be the first piece of the 11 to be constructed in Arizona.

Arizona has shown zero interest in officially signing anything as I-11. They've also seemingly gone quiet in referring to I-11 at all, only referring to US 93 for this project.

For this project, it wouldn't really make sense to refer to I-11 anyway since there isn't a significant portion of US 93 being upgraded to interstate standards (there are at grade crossings beginning shortly north of the AZ 68 interchange).

I don't think there would be much point in signing such a short segment as I-11, especially since it is disconnected from the Nevada segment.

sprjus4

Agreed. The designation of an interstate highway should be in logical portions.

The first segment was the Nevada segment between north of Las Vegas and the Arizona state line.

The second logical segment would be once US-93 is upgraded between I-40 and the Nevada state line.

The Ghostbuster

I agree. We won't see any Interstate 11 signs posted until parts of US 93 between Exits 2 and 67 are upgraded to Freeway and Interstate Standards. Heck, it may take all of US 93 between the Arizona/Nevada State Line and Interstate 40 being upgraded before 11 is signposted.

DenverBrian

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 07, 2025, 11:50:05 AMAgreed. The designation of an interstate highway should be in logical portions.

The first segment was the Nevada segment between north of Las Vegas and the Arizona state line.

The second logical segment would be once US-93 is upgraded between I-40 and the Nevada state line.
The entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget. :D :D :D 

kkt

And most of the time "Temp I-whatever" signs were put up before construction was done.

kphoger

Quote from: DenverBrian on July 09, 2025, 12:40:48 PMThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

But how glad I am to not have been alive and roadgeeking back then because of it.

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Bobby5280

Quote from: DenverBrianThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

I can remember 40+ years ago when the government was able to get a lot more new Interstate highway mileage built per year compared to the far slower pace common now.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 10, 2025, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: DenverBrianThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

I can remember 40+ years ago when the government was able to get a lot more new Interstate highway mileage built per year compared to the far slower pace common now.

Everyone who had chargeable Interstate mileage was eager to get that 90% Federal funding contribution. 

Bobby5280

If the federal gub'ment has any desire to get projects like I-69, I-49, I-14, etc. completed any time soon at all (if ever) they might need to bring back that old chargeable mileage system. Otherwise we're all going to be long dead before any of this shit gets finished.

Max Rockatansky

I don't foresee either of the big parties becoming interested in something like 90% fund contributions again in my lifetime.   

Scott5114

Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 10, 2025, 10:14:56 PMIf the federal gub'ment has any desire to get projects like I-69, I-49, I-14, etc. completed any time soon at all (if ever) they might need to bring back that old chargeable mileage system. Otherwise we're all going to be long dead before any of this shit gets finished.

I don't think the feds had any interest in any of those beyond whichever random senator's vote was needed to pass whatever bill created those.

We might actually see I-11 in Arizona finished at some point, because it fills a legitimate need that existed before someone had the idea of slapping a blue shield on it. (The same might be true of I-49, at least.)
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kkt

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 10, 2025, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 10, 2025, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: DenverBrianThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

I can remember 40+ years ago when the government was able to get a lot more new Interstate highway mileage built per year compared to the far slower pace common now.

Everyone who had chargeable Interstate mileage was eager to get that 90% Federal funding contribution. 

Yep.  Also there was the tendency to build the easier, less controversial parts first.

Sub-Urbanite

Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 10, 2025, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: DenverBrianThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

I can remember 40+ years ago when the government was able to get a lot more new Interstate highway mileage built per year compared to the far slower pace common now.

I can remember when the federal gas tax was twice what it is now (adjusted for inflation) and the highway trust fund had money to build stuff.

sprjus4

Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on July 11, 2025, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 10, 2025, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: DenverBrianThe entire initial construction of the Interstate highway system was done in segments - sometimes with scores or hundreds of miles between segments. How soon we forget.

I can remember 40+ years ago when the government was able to get a lot more new Interstate highway mileage built per year compared to the far slower pace common now.

I can remember when the federal gas tax was twice what it is now (adjusted for inflation) and the highway trust fund had money to build stuff.
With recent inflation, it's probably closer to triple or quadruple what it is now. A basic overpass here in Virginia that may have cost $10-15 million 5 years ago now costs north of $50 million in some cases.



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