Ohio Legislature Mandates Feasibility Study of Future I-73

Started by FutureInterstateCorridors, July 13, 2025, 01:48:48 AM

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vdeane

Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 12:19:02 AMUS 33 and US 35 as alternate potential Interstate routes to save time cutting over to I-77 (and cost) are realistic alternatives, not fictional, whether bureaucrats have stumbled onto this idea or not.
How realistic something is isn't the determinator of whether something belongs in Fictional.  Whether the idea exists outside of this hobby is.  Now, it's natural that in discussing real things (like the Ohio legislature ordering a study) that we would mention what we'd want, but at this point, it's dominating the thread.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.


TempoNick

Quote from: Rothman on July 20, 2025, 03:32:42 PMO.o

Traffic engineers?  They're working on their active projects.  What a silly question...

So traffic engineers don't spend a lot of their time and meetings discussing these things? If they don't, then maybe they should.

sprjus4

Quote from: vdeane on July 20, 2025, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 12:19:02 AMUS 33 and US 35 as alternate potential Interstate routes to save time cutting over to I-77 (and cost) are realistic alternatives, not fictional, whether bureaucrats have stumbled onto this idea or not.
How realistic something is isn't the determinator of whether something belongs in Fictional.  Whether the idea exists outside of this hobby is.  Now, it's natural that in discussing real things (like the Ohio legislature ordering a study) that we would mention what we'd want, but at this point, it's dominating the thread.
The general idea of the thread is not fictional, the legislature passed a bill requiring the study of constructing an interstate highway south to I-64.

The scope of this discussion has largely focused on constructing a controlled access highway south to I-64. We have suggested alternatives routes to the official proposed one, but the scope of the discussion has stayed within a real-life concept. I-73 is not a fictional proposal.

Now, ideas to extend I-26 via US-23 through VA and KY, are fully fictional and do not belong here.

sprjus4

Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 20, 2025, 03:32:42 PMO.o

Traffic engineers?  They're working on their active projects.  What a silly question...

So traffic engineers don't spend a lot of their time and meetings discussing these things? If they don't, then maybe they should.
Traffic engineers working on a specific project to upgrade US-23 to interstate standards, perhaps. Traffic engineers work on the projects they're given. It's not up to them to say hey let's work on this highway. That responsibility is for a transportation planner.

Rothman

Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 20, 2025, 03:32:42 PMO.o

Traffic engineers?  They're working on their active projects.  What a silly question...

So traffic engineers don't spend a lot of their time and meetings discussing these things? If they don't, then maybe they should.

Somebody doesn't understand what a traffic engineer acu
Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 20, 2025, 03:32:42 PMO.o

Traffic engineers?  They're working on their active projects.  What a silly question...

So traffic engineers don't spend a lot of their time and meetings discussing these things? If they don't, then maybe they should.

Glad someone else pointed out to you what an engineer actually does...dear heavens...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Beltway

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 20, 2025, 05:18:50 PMTraffic engineers working on a specific project to upgrade US-23 to interstate standards, perhaps. Traffic engineers work on the projects they're given. It's not up to them to say hey let's work on this highway. That responsibility is for a transportation planner.
Design engineers design highway construction projects. The state transportation board decides what will become a project in the first place.

Traffic engineers design traffic control features.
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vdeane

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 20, 2025, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 20, 2025, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 12:19:02 AMUS 33 and US 35 as alternate potential Interstate routes to save time cutting over to I-77 (and cost) are realistic alternatives, not fictional, whether bureaucrats have stumbled onto this idea or not.
How realistic something is isn't the determinator of whether something belongs in Fictional.  Whether the idea exists outside of this hobby is.  Now, it's natural that in discussing real things (like the Ohio legislature ordering a study) that we would mention what we'd want, but at this point, it's dominating the thread.
The general idea of the thread is not fictional, the legislature passed a bill requiring the study of constructing an interstate highway south to I-64.

The scope of this discussion has largely focused on constructing a controlled access highway south to I-64. We have suggested alternatives routes to the official proposed one, but the scope of the discussion has stayed within a real-life concept. I-73 is not a fictional proposal.

Now, ideas to extend I-26 via US-23 through VA and KY, are fully fictional and do not belong here.
OK, so I didn't notice that the study was actually south and not north with the long, rambley wall of text FIC posted, but still, it stays largely to the Congressionally-designated route, while we're veering into thinks like US 33, US 35, and extending I-26 up US 23.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

FutureInterstateCorridors

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 20, 2025, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 20, 2025, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 12:19:02 AMUS 33 and US 35 as alternate potential Interstate routes to save time cutting over to I-77 (and cost) are realistic alternatives, not fictional, whether bureaucrats have stumbled onto this idea or not.
How realistic something is isn't the determinator of whether something belongs in Fictional.  Whether the idea exists outside of this hobby is.  Now, it's natural that in discussing real things (like the Ohio legislature ordering a study) that we would mention what we'd want, but at this point, it's dominating the thread.
The general idea of the thread is not fictional, the legislature passed a bill requiring the study of constructing an interstate highway south to I-64.

The scope of this discussion has largely focused on constructing a controlled access highway south to I-64. We have suggested alternatives routes to the official proposed one, but the scope of the discussion has stayed within a real-life concept. I-73 is not a fictional proposal.

Now, ideas to extend I-26 via US-23 through VA and KY, are fully fictional and do not belong here.
Correct, this post was only to inform AAroads.com fans about the Future I-73 Feasibility study approved by the Ohio State Legislature.  All the discussion about U.S. 35, U.S 33, I-26 extension were never relevant.  None of the states bordering Ohio are going to plan, fund, or build Future I-73 and what is actually proposed will be a standalone highway disconnected from I-73 in North Carolina.

Scott5114

Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 02:56:41 PMAs they say in football, statistics are for losers.

Why are you on a forum full of people you think are losers, then?
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Rothman

Quote from: FutureInterstateCorridors on Today at 01:05:13 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 20, 2025, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 20, 2025, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: TempoNick on July 20, 2025, 12:19:02 AMUS 33 and US 35 as alternate potential Interstate routes to save time cutting over to I-77 (and cost) are realistic alternatives, not fictional, whether bureaucrats have stumbled onto this idea or not.
How realistic something is isn't the determinator of whether something belongs in Fictional.  Whether the idea exists outside of this hobby is.  Now, it's natural that in discussing real things (like the Ohio legislature ordering a study) that we would mention what we'd want, but at this point, it's dominating the thread.
The general idea of the thread is not fictional, the legislature passed a bill requiring the study of constructing an interstate highway south to I-64.

The scope of this discussion has largely focused on constructing a controlled access highway south to I-64. We have suggested alternatives routes to the official proposed one, but the scope of the discussion has stayed within a real-life concept. I-73 is not a fictional proposal.

Now, ideas to extend I-26 via US-23 through VA and KY, are fully fictional and do not belong here.
Correct, this post was only to inform AAroads.com fans about the Future I-73 Feasibility study approved by the Ohio State Legislature.  All the discussion about U.S. 35, U.S 33, I-26 extension were never relevant.  None of the states bordering Ohio are going to plan, fund, or build Future I-73 and what is actually proposed will be a standalone highway disconnected from I-73 in North Carolina.

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Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

sprjus4

Since the scope is strictly US-23 to Portsmouth, and any other discussion regarding other shorter and more improved routes is not permitted here, then I'll say one thing: the project is D.O.A. and not realistic.

The Ghostbuster

Upgrading US 23 to freeway standards south of Columbus would require building a few bypasses around towns US 23 still goes through. That being said, I think upgrades to US 23 north of Columbus should be the priority, since I think traffic counts are higher north of Interstate 270 than south of it.

sprjus4

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 10:47:12 AMUpgrading US 23 to freeway standards south of Columbus would require building a few bypasses around towns US 23 still goes through. That being said, I think upgrades to US 23 north of Columbus should be the priority, since I think traffic counts are higher north of Interstate 270 than south of it.
No major upgrades are needed directly to US-23, all it needs is a new bypass connecting Waldo with I-71.

TempoNick

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Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 10:47:12 AMUpgrading US 23 to freeway standards south of Columbus would require building a few bypasses around towns US 23 still goes through. That being said, I think upgrades to US 23 north of Columbus should be the priority, since I think traffic counts are higher north of Interstate 270 than south of it.

Circleville, South Bloomfield and Waverly come to mind, most of the rest of it to 823 should be okay. But this is going to have to be done sooner or later anyway and it will be much easier and cheaper to do it sooner than later.

Put it this way: Columbus has freeway or almost freeway access to each of the neighboring county seats (London, Marysville, Newark and Lancaster) except for Delaware and Circleville. The idea that those two should be excluded is not defensible.



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