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NY 17/"I-86"

Started by newyorker478, October 27, 2011, 07:54:53 PM

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seicer

Have there been any news about interchange consolidation in that area?


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Two decades ago there was thoughts of shutting 108 and 111 period for the 86 upgrades.

The only talk of consolidation recently I've seen is 114. There's a lot of debate on what to do with 114 because of the wb ramp. 122 is getting a C-D road.

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Henry

I looked at both alternatives, and my biggest concern is, why must the WB offramp be further up the road than the onramp? That is an awkward-looking interchange, but a roundabout on the north side will make it even worse. On the south side, I like the folded-diamond setup, but again, can do without the roundabout.
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dzheng35

I think we can say that we may not see I-86 completed in our lifetimes, but which segments do you think we'll be able to see upgraded and signed in our lifetimes? I personally think between Monticello and the Thruway, given that that section is the Route 17 enhancements corridor and maybe the remainder of the Southern Tier Expressway between Endicott/Vestal and I-81. I'm still very young, so I don't want to rule anything out entirely at the moment.

The Ghostbuster

They should upgrade and sign what they can along the corridor. I am sure the "gap" at Hale Eddy will be filled eventually, but it may be decades before that happens (I hope not).

dzheng35

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 30, 2025, 03:36:08 PMThey should upgrade and sign what they can along the corridor. I am sure the "gap" at Hale Eddy will be filled eventually, but it may be decades before that happens (I hope not).

I don't see why it should be so hard to get the section between exits 79 and 84 upgraded. I've driven the entire quickway a handful of times and looked at it from a map, and I believe the only issues that exist on that segment are mainline issues and some of the acceleration/deceleration lanes. It's not like any of the interchanges between Windsor and Deposit are substandard and need reconfiguration like the interchanges through the Catskills and the Hudson Valley.

Strider

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 30, 2025, 03:36:08 PMThey should upgrade and sign what they can along the corridor. I am sure the "gap" at Hale Eddy will be filled eventually, but it may be decades before that happens (I hope not).

I don't understand why NYSDOT have not gotten around to upgrading the "gap" at Hale Eddy, but they focus on other parts of NY-17/Future I-86... shouldn't they finish upgrading the gap first before dealing with other projects?

The Ghostbuster

I don't think the Hale Eddy gap is the most pressing issue at New York's DOT. I would have liked more of the NY 17 corridor to have been upgraded by now; I believe the original conversion completion date was 2009 when the Interstate 86 designation debuted in 1999. Here it is 2025, and while progress has been made in converting NY 17 to Interstate 86, it will be quite some time before the full conversion is completed.

Strider

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 30, 2025, 04:15:13 PMI don't think the Hale Eddy gap is the most pressing issue at New York's DOT. I would have liked more of the NY 17 corridor to have been upgraded by now; I believe the original conversion completion date was 2009 when the Interstate 86 designation debuted in 1999. Here it is 2025, and while progress has been made in converting NY 17 to Interstate 86, it will be quite some time before the full conversion is completed.

Alright, but what is causing the delay? That is what I am curious about.

seicer

Well, just that. It's not a pressing issue. There is no funding for that outside of what has already been completed: a selected alignment and some preliminary engineering. It has very low traffic counts and isn't a high accident corridor. There are pressing safety-related issues and higher traffic counts further east.



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