New York

[roadman65]

Is it common in Westchester County to refer to the Bronx River Parkway as the Bronx Parkway and the Sprain Brook Parkway as the Sprain Parkway?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6iK6iH5eKczCnnnQ9?g_st=ac

The guide on the EB Cross County refers to both roads without the waterways in their names.

[SignBridge]

DOT's too cheap to pay for the larger signs that would be needed to include the words River and Brook ?

Next year's budget maybe they'll just eliminate the signs altogether to save money.......

[cockroachking]

It is an old practice that has persisted for 2 main reasons AIUI:
1. An unwillingness to have inconsistent messaging for the same parkway (since it would be impossible/costly to replace every guide sign mentioning a parkway all at once)
2. A belief that the existing "Hudson Valley" parkway shields (green escutcheon) are illegible on guide signs.

Reason 1 boils down to not wanting some shields mixed with some text, or text with <River, etc.> mixed with text without <River, etc.>. That being said, I'm sure that avoiding excess panel area is the reason why omitting <River, etc.> remains common practice. Reason 2 could probably be fixed with a shield redesign, similar to the LI parkways, which are guide-signed exclusively with shields. Of course, that doesn't stop Westchester County from using the green escutcheon anyway, though their version is more square and seems to emphasize the abbreviation more than the rectangular NYSDOT design.

[dgolub]

Is it common in Westchester County to refer to the Bronx River Parkway as the Bronx Parkway and the Sprain Brook Parkway as the Sprain Parkway?

People will talk about "the Hutch," "the Sprain," and "the Saw Mill."  So, yes, with regard to those three.  I've never heard anyone say "Bronx Parkway" out loud, though.

[crispy93]

It is an old practice that has persisted for 2 main reasons AIUI:
1. An unwillingness to have inconsistent messaging for the same parkway (since it would be impossible/costly to replace every guide sign mentioning a parkway all at once)
2. A belief that the existing "Hudson Valley" parkway shields (green escutcheon) are illegible on guide signs.

Reason 1 boils down to not wanting some shields mixed with some text, or text with <River, etc.> mixed with text without <River, etc.>. That being said, I'm sure that avoiding excess panel area is the reason why omitting <River, etc.> remains common practice. Reason 2 could probably be fixed with a shield redesign, similar to the LI parkways, which are guide-signed exclusively with shields. Of course, that doesn't stop Westchester County from using the green escutcheon anyway, though their version is more square and seems to emphasize the abbreviation more than the rectangular NYSDOT design.

I share the belief that you mentioned in Point 2; I find them very hard to read on guide signs, particularly the Sprain/BRP ramp split you linked (looks like the eastbound exit from the CCP). For freestanding shields, you'll find the occasional Saw Mill shield with the "River" in it:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Eo5Rtp7dh9ytFWry8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hQsS35H7NqT3yALY9

The only guide sign that has Saw Mill RIVER Pkwy is at the 87/287 split, but it look like a R8 sign rather than NYSTA: https://maps.app.goo.gl/WQmfwi637Vh3eS2w9

I think the only guide sign that spells out "Sprain BROOK Pkwy" is on the Taconic in Hawthorne: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DEF9n4GpbR9bJTug6

The STATE in Taconic State Pkwy only seems to show up on the northbound Saw Mill at the same interchange in Hawthorne, and formerly on I-84 (before the exit number conversion). 

[machias]

I was looking at the presentation on the proposed improvements to I-90/Thruway Exit 31 in Utica. The presentation is here: https://www.nysmpos.org/_files/ugd/3ff9d0_983bb43f9f2e4262a8f7309cf748a0b5.pdf

It's interesting to me that NYSDOT seems to want to put the eastbound ramps after the I-790/NY 5/8/12/49 interchange. I don't know what their thought process is behind this. Does that mean trucks headed to the Marcy-SUNY tech area or NY 8/12 arterial will need to get off at N Genesee Street or Leland Ave and do a u-turn back to I-790 West/South to get that interchange? It seems like it would be a much better idea to put the EB exit/WB entrance from the Thruway to somewhere between where NY 49 EB crosses the Thruway in the Town of Marcy (about 1 mile west of NY 49's interchange with CR 34)

[vdeane]

I was looking at the presentation on the proposed improvements to I-90/Thruway Exit 31 in Utica. The presentation is here: https://www.nysmpos.org/_files/ugd/3ff9d0_983bb43f9f2e4262a8f7309cf748a0b5.pdf

It's interesting to me that NYSDOT seems to want to put the eastbound ramps after the I-790/NY 5/8/12/49 interchange. I don't know what their thought process is behind this. Does that mean trucks headed to the Marcy-SUNY tech area or NY 8/12 arterial will need to get off at N Genesee Street or Leland Ave and do a u-turn back to I-790 West/South to get that interchange? It seems like it would be a much better idea to put the EB exit/WB entrance from the Thruway to somewhere between where NY 49 EB crosses the Thruway in the Town of Marcy (about 1 mile west of NY 49's interchange with CR 34)

Might be a good idea to send comments before they submit the final report.  That struck me as odd too.

(personal opinion)