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Can new people not create new accounts anymore?

Started by Roadgeekteen, September 28, 2025, 03:33:45 PM

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Roadgeekteen

I saw a comment on another thread that people can't create new accounts on this forum. Is this true? I saw that the last new account on this forum was created on September 16th 12 days ago, but that doesn't seem to be the longest gap. If they can't, why not?
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Max Rockatansky

The problem was that it got far too easy for bots to register new accounts.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 28, 2025, 03:36:21 PMThe problem was that it got far too easy for bots to register new accounts.
Yeah bots are an issue, but people should be able to if they verify that they are a human, perhaps by answering a set of questions verifying their interest in the forum. I remember having to do that back in 2017 when I registered.
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Max Rockatansky

To that end I have no idea what the current registration looks like.  I have no idea if security questions are even an option that can be incorporated on the forum host platform. 


Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 28, 2025, 03:40:09 PMTo that end I have no idea what the current registration looks like.  I have no idea if security questions are even an option that can be incorporated on the forum host platform. 


They were not security questions; they were questions like "Why do you want to join the forum"? But maybe things have changed since then with the new host.
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dlsterner

Back when I joined, I seem to remember being asked to state a road-related piece of trivia - I think I used "I-97 is the shortest two digit Interstate" (which was true at that time).  Although I guess bots could be set up to get around that.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: dlsterner on September 28, 2025, 07:39:36 PMBack when I joined, I seem to remember being asked to state a road-related piece of trivia - I think I used "I-97 is the shortest two digit Interstate" (which was true at that time).  Although I guess bots could be set up to get around that.
I remember a funny interaction with Alps about getting approved and stuff, as I was only 13 when I joined and had no clue how to interact on the internet. He was quite annoyed with me, justifiably so.
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Scott5114

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 28, 2025, 03:40:09 PMTo that end I have no idea what the current registration looks like.  I have no idea if security questions are even an option that can be incorporated on the forum host platform. 

This sort of thing is possible with an extension/plugin, however, the one we were using was acting up, which is why registration was disabled.
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 28, 2025, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 28, 2025, 03:40:09 PMTo that end I have no idea what the current registration looks like.  I have no idea if security questions are even an option that can be incorporated on the forum host platform. 

This sort of thing is possible with an extension/plugin, however, the one we were using was acting up, which is why registration was disabled.
Is there any timeline for when registration will be possible again? Obviously, I'm already a member of the forum but I would like new people who want to join to be able to join.
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Molandfreak

Or if it is impossible to set up a traditional registration function, could there at least be a more detailed set of instructions about how to contact an admin to set up an account for you? If I were to attempt to register today, the first thing I would do is message the official Facebook or Instagram accounts requesting it. I'm not sure how often those messages are checked or if anyone other than Alex has access to those accounts.

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Scott5114

I have no more information on this, unfortunately.

I've had a few people contact me through the wiki and request accounts, which I was able to do for them by creating them manually. So we do have a few new users that way. But I'm kinda reluctant to encourage people to do that, because unfortunately I don't have the time to vet new users as thoroughly as I would need to if that were commonplace (and I have never been very good at it, anyhow).
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Molandfreak

I have enjoyed the images @Jhoan Seb has posted so far, so thank you for allowing them to create an account.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Scott5114 on Today at 01:21:43 AMI have no more information on this, unfortunately.

I've had a few people contact me through the wiki and request accounts, which I was able to do for them by creating them manually. So we do have a few new users that way. But I'm kinda reluctant to encourage people to do that, because unfortunately I don't have the time to vet new users as thoroughly as I would need to if that were commonplace (and I have never been very good at it, anyhow).
Don't we have several mods that could vet? It doesn't have to just be you.
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Scott5114

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on Today at 08:02:50 AMDon't we have several mods that could vet? It doesn't have to just be you.

I'm the only one besides Alex with advanced permissions on both the forum and the wiki. (It has a totally different set of admins.)
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vdeane

I presume that someone taking the time to write a coherent message requesting access to the Facebook page or similar is at least not a spambot posting links to Russian malware sites and the like (and if it's still a concern, then I wonder if there's a way things could be set up to require the first 5-10 posts to require moderator approval to filter them out).  Although they could be the next coming of MMM or similar.
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kphoger

Quote from: vdeane on Today at 12:51:40 PMI presume that someone taking the time to write a coherent message requesting access to the Facebook page or similar is at least not a spambot posting links to Russian malware sites and the like (and if it's still a concern, then I wonder if there's a way things could be set up to require the first 5-10 posts to require moderator approval to filter them out).  Although they could be the next coming of MMM or similar.

They're not actually spam bots.  They're multiple iterations of MMM.  That's why there are millions of them.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kphoger on Today at 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: vdeane on Today at 12:51:40 PMI presume that someone taking the time to write a coherent message requesting access to the Facebook page or similar is at least not a spambot posting links to Russian malware sites and the like (and if it's still a concern, then I wonder if there's a way things could be set up to require the first 5-10 posts to require moderator approval to filter them out).  Although they could be the next coming of MMM or similar.

They're not actually spam bots.  They're multiple iterations of MMM.  That's why there are millions of them.
Is P13 a version of MMM?
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kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.