Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695) complete collapse after large ship hits it

[Max Rockatansky]

You have been following me around and deliberately annoying me and deliberately irritating me on multiple roads forums for at least 5 years. By taking positions on a variety of subjects contrary to mine and arguing it like a dog with a bone in his mouth and shaking it back and forth.
Several people have done this over the years and I have several theories as to why.
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Are you really surprised that there is a large amount of crossover in road group platforms? 
I have theory too about why you're seeing so much disagreement across the expanse of

Wrong -- I am talking about a handful of people over the last 20 years. Out of thousands of posters.

Second point: there are less than a handful of major highway projects that I have ever opposed. Let that sink into your ears.

And you really think those thousands of posters are all actually frequently active?  Even on Freewayjim, you were often talking to several people who are in this very thread.  How big do you think this hobby actually is?

I don't know, it seems like as of late you have negative opinions on almost every major east coast freeway project.  I recall first becoming aware of it with the Pigeon River Gorge washouts.  You were big on tunnels and such when that was all new.

[LilianaUwU]

[Max Rockatansky]

How many pages back is the post with guy bringing pizzas into the burning apartment now?

[Beltway]

Are you really surprised that there is a large amount of crossover in road group platforms? 
I have theory too about why you're seeing so much disagreement across the expanse of

Wrong -- I am talking about a handful of people over the last 20 years. Out of thousands of posters.
Second point: there are less than a handful of major highway projects that I have ever opposed. Let that sink into your ears.

And you really think those thousands of posters are all actually frequently active?  Even on Freewayjim, you were often talking to several people who are in this very thread.  How big do you think this hobby actually is?
I don't know, it seems like as of late you have negative opinions on almost every major east coast freeway project.  I recall first becoming aware of it with the Pigeon River Gorge washouts.  You were big on tunnels and such when that was all new.

" you have negative opinions on almost every major east coast freeway project"

Give me a break. There are exactly two.

I had questions about the I-40 washouts but no objection to the full 4-lane restorations. I suggested future study for a relocation but with no time table specified.

Back to the Key Bridge, simply questions about why the lack of precision for cost estimates, what was $1.7 billion is now being ranged by some sources as up to $5 billion.

The lack of specifics as to how they will protect the main piers from ship strike and or ship conflagration, causing severe damage to the bridge.

. . .
And here we go again, Max starts posting cartoons and throwaway posts. A major chunk of those 20 pages that he mentioned.

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm counting at least three negative opinions mentioned in the last three/four pages of this thread:

-  The Key Bridge replacement
-  I-40 and the Pigeon River Gorge
-  I-81 in Syracuse

Now you got me wondering what all this I-64 business is about. 

[LilianaUwU]

How many pages back is the post with guy bringing pizzas into the burning apartment now?

18 pages ago, on page 26.

[Max Rockatansky]

How many pages back is the post with guy bringing pizzas into the burning apartment now?

18 pages ago, on page 26.

Thank you, now this is the kind of detailed analysis I like to see.

[Beltway]

I'm counting at least three negative opinions mentioned in the last three/four pages of this thread:
-  The Key Bridge replacement
-  I-40 and the Pigeon River Gorge
-  I-81 in Syracuse
Now you got me wondering what all this I-64 business is about. 

You got two of them.

I-40 and the Pigeon River Gorge is not one. I don't oppose the reconstruction.

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm counting at least three negative opinions mentioned in the last three/four pages of this thread:
-  The Key Bridge replacement
-  I-40 and the Pigeon River Gorge
-  I-81 in Syracuse
Now you got me wondering what all this I-64 business is about. 

You got two of them.

I-40 and the Pigeon River Gorge is not one. I don't oppose the reconstruction.

Heh, you didn't oppose reconstruction so long as it met your criteria for how it should be rebuilt.  You were quite vocal off forum on your thoughts about rebuilding on the existing right of way. 

FWIW I don't personally disagree with you in that the terrain of the Pigeon River Gorge was not the best choice for a freeway.  Adam Prince's account on the matter thought I think really explained the realities why the I-40 ended up there (and will stay there).  Sometimes you got to work with the corridor you're given. 

[NE2]

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[hotdogPi]

Can we talk more about the Miami Dolphins trying to swim to Baltimore but getting stuck because they couldn't follow NC I-87 to Chesapeake Bay?

[PColumbus73]

I simply look forward to Beltway chaining himself to the Key Bridge, I-81 viaduct, and the American Legion Bridge, at the same time.

[PColumbus73]

Can we talk more about the Miami Dolphins trying to swim to Baltimore but getting stuck because they couldn't follow NC I-87 to Chesapeake Bay?

I'm tempted to start a 'Save the I-81 Viaduct' thread in Fictional... maybe threaten Syracuse (or Albany) with aliens if they don't replace it.

[vdeane]

" you have negative opinions on almost every major east coast freeway project"

Give me a break. There are exactly two.

I had questions about the I-40 washouts but no objection to the full 4-lane restorations. I suggested future study for a relocation but with no time table specified.

And yet I can't recall a single time where you had positive comments regarding a highway project outside of Virginia.

[Max Rockatansky]

Can we talk more about the Miami Dolphins trying to swim to Baltimore but getting stuck because they couldn't follow NC I-87 to Chesapeake Bay?

I'm tempted to start a 'Save the I-81 Viaduct' thread in Fictional... maybe threaten Syracuse (or Albany) with aliens if they don't replace it.

I think this is needed...

[kphoger]

You have been following me around and deliberately annoying me and deliberately irritating me on multiple roads forums for at least 5 years. By taking positions on a variety of subjects contrary to mine and arguing it like a dog with a bone in his mouth and shaking it back and forth.

Several people have done this over the years and I have several theories as to why.

In the words of Hugo Bradford...

If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn't everyone else.

[PColumbus73]

You have been following me around and deliberately annoying me and deliberately irritating me on multiple roads forums for at least 5 years. By taking positions on a variety of subjects contrary to mine and arguing it like a dog with a bone in his mouth and shaking it back and forth.

Several people have done this over the years and I have several theories as to why.

In the words of Hugo Bradford...

If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn't everyone else.

9/10 dentists agree, but the 10th was right about everything all along

[The Ghostbuster]

Can we stop this merry-go-round? It's way past time to get off and move on.

[Rothman]

Can we stop this merry-go-round? It's way past time to get off and move on.

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